VQ chats with Dave Hart...

#4
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3rd_and_Jancek said:
Hart was the one being interviewed , not Hamilton.
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And yet, under Hamilton, we never had back to back years without a bowl. We have 3 straight under Hart.

And under Hamilton, we made the NCAA tournament in men's basketball 6 straight years. Never made it under Hart.

Of course, Hamilton screwed up a ton of stuff and deserves blame for it. But Hart has been here for nearly 3 years (and 3 straight losing seasons in football). At some point, he doesn't get to simply blame Hamilton anymore. At some point, he has to take responsibility. Especially when results have actually been worse on his watch.
 
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Why does everyone hate hart so bad? He didn't create this mess. He's trying to get ya out if it.
 
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oregonvol said:
And yet, under Hamilton, we never had back to back years without a bowl. We have 3 straight under Hart.

And under Hamilton, we made the NCAA tournament in men's basketball 6 straight years. Never made it under Hart.

Of course, Hamilton screwed up a ton of stuff and deserves blame for it. But Hart has been here for nearly 3 years (and 3 straight losing seasons in football). At some point, he doesn't get to simply blame Hamilton anymore. At some point, he has to take responsibility. Especially when results have actually been worse on his watch.
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Who hired Kiffin and Dooley? I'll , wait..
 
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oregonvol said:
And yet, under Hamilton, we never had back to back years without a bowl. We have 3 straight under Hart.

And under Hamilton, we made the NCAA tournament in men's basketball 6 straight years. Never made it under Hart.

Of course, Hamilton screwed up a ton of stuff and deserves blame for it. But Hart has been here for nearly 3 years (and 3 straight losing seasons in football). At some point, he doesn't get to simply blame Hamilton anymore. At some point, he has to take responsibility. Especially when results have actually been worse on his watch.
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The reason events happen is usually something from the past. The biggest mistake Hart made was letting Dooley get on the bus at Kentucky. That's also in pure hindsight. I don't fault Hart for it though.
 
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oregonvol said:
And yet, under Hamilton, we never had back to back years without a bowl. We have 3 straight under Hart.

And under Hamilton, we made the NCAA tournament in men's basketball 6 straight years. Never made it under Hart.

Of course, Hamilton screwed up a ton of stuff and deserves blame for it. But Hart has been here for nearly 3 years (and 3 straight losing seasons in football). At some point, he doesn't get to simply blame Hamilton anymore. At some point, he has to take responsibility. Especially when results have actually been worse on his watch.
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:lolabove:


Being an AD in your first years is a lot like being president. There is a lot of carry-over effect from the previous administration that you have no control over.

Really, missing the NCAA tourney since he's been here? Did he hire Martin? I must have missed that.

Did he hire Kiffin or Dooley? Who are almost entirely responsible for the current state of the football team. I must have missed that too.
 
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toddyj said:
Why does everyone hate hart so bad? He didn't create this mess. He's trying to get ya out if it.
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Because this board is full of Nostradumasses who think that they have all the right answers all the time. VN isn't happy unless they're pointing fingers and blaming someone for something.
 
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3rd_and_Jancek said:
Who hired Kiffin and Dooley? I'll , wait..
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By that logic, he should have just kept Dooley on, since he bears no responsibility for the performance of coaches he didn't hire. (actually, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the card he's been playing and that's why he really wanted to give Dooley a 4th year).

The fact of the matter is, it's been almost 3 years. There aren't many jobs you can hold for 3 years and show nothing but dismal results, simply because of your predecessor. And if the situation you took over was so bad, you should be able to show some improvement after 3 years, right? Not just the same results or worse.

Hart kept Dooley as long as he possibly could. He signed off on the Sunseri hire. He spent a good deal of money hiring the new coach (significantly more than SEC champion Auburn spent on Malzahn) and it has yet to yield positive on field results. During his tenure, basketball attendance and football attendance has dwindled. At what point will people decide to hold him accountable for anything?
 
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oregonvol said:
By that logic, he should have just kept Dooley on, since he bears no responsibility for the performance of coaches he didn't hire. (actually, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the card he's been playing and that's why he really wanted to give Dooley a 4th year).

The fact of the matter is, it's been almost 3 years. There aren't many jobs you can hold for 3 years and show nothing but dismal results, simply because of your predecessor. And if the situation you took over was so bad, you should be able to show some improvement after 3 years, right? Not just the same results or worse.

Hart kept Dooley as long as he possibly could. He signed off on the Sunseri hire. He spent a good deal of money hiring the new coach (significantly more than SEC champion Auburn spent on Malzahn) and it has yet to yield positive on field results. During his tenure, basketball attendance and football attendance has dwindled. At what point will people decide to hold him accountable for anything?
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You love you some hindsight .lol Who did you want to see hired as the DC when Sunseri was hired? How could anyone know that he would've been that bad? What should Hart have done differently?
 
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All I'm going to say on this matter as I've blown up one thread about this already is that if any of you think Hart is going to make slam dunk hires you don't have any clue about Hart and the state of this program. I don't think Zo is the man for the job for our basketball team, I also don't believe Hart posses the negotiating tools necessary to land a big time coach. Most high donors feel the same way, and once Cheek and Hart get us out of a finically bind, which is why Hart was hired in the first place, I fully expect the heat to be pressed on them until they make a great hire or they resign. The money from the donors is there, but the ability of a AD to mend a contract with a top coach isn't.
 
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supersmo18 said:
Because this board is full of Nostradumasses who think that they have all the right answers all the time. VN isn't happy unless they're pointing fingers and blaming someone for something.
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Damn that is so true. This site is so laughable at times. people are crazy
 
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oregonvol said:
By that logic, he should have just kept Dooley on, since he bears no responsibility for the performance of coaches he didn't hire. (actually, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the card he's been playing and that's why he really wanted to give Dooley a 4th year).

The fact of the matter is, it's been almost 3 years. There aren't many jobs you can hold for 3 years and show nothing but dismal results, simply because of your predecessor. And if the situation you took over was so bad, you should be able to show some improvement after 3 years, right? Not just the same results or worse.

Hart kept Dooley as long as he possibly could. He signed off on the Sunseri hire. He spent a good deal of money hiring the new coach (significantly more than SEC champion Auburn spent on Malzahn) and it has yet to yield positive on field results. During his tenure, basketball attendance and football attendance has dwindled. At what point will people decide to hold him accountable for anything?
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There are a couple if things that I for one see as being improved upon since his hiring! For starters the 1st thing is that we have the 2nd ranked recruiting class in NCAA football! I saw great strides in our football program! I see a coach that actually has a fire under him to lead these players! Our coach seems to genuinely WANT to be here, he wants to be our coach! He takes blame for the losses and moves forward to improve! He does not throw the blame off on the players! Our coaching staff in a whole are doing a great job of selling our university! That is all things that can be seen by the public! Now for things that aren't talked about much by the media but are changes and improvements from the previous regime! Hart has taken back the control of the athletic funds and put them back in our athletic dept! The seats if Neyland had more butts in them this year than they did last year. Our fans enthusiasm was at a higher decibel this year than in years past ( and no that's not directly on Hart) but it's a improvement! The budget seems to be becoming more manageable under his watch. Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.
 
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oregonvol said:
And yet, under Hamilton, we never had back to back years without a bowl. We have 3 straight under Hart.

And under Hamilton, we made the NCAA tournament in men's basketball 6 straight years. Never made it under Hart.

Of course, Hamilton screwed up a ton of stuff and deserves blame for it. But Hart has been here for nearly 3 years (and 3 straight losing seasons in football). At some point, he doesn't get to simply blame Hamilton anymore. At some point, he has to take responsibility. Especially when results have actually been worse on his watch.
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For people to not see what a mess Hart inherited is beyond me. First off, one of the biggest problems Hamilton created that Hart has had to fix is the fact that the school administrators, professors, etc... had to much power over the athletics programs. We were losing out on top recruits because they had changed the rules so these recruits couldn't make it into the University. They were acting like this was an Ivy League school and not a school in the SEC. Both Hart and CBJ have been trying to change this so that we can go and get these recruits again, get them on campus but also help them stay on campus. They seem to be doing it in a way that includes the school administrators, professors and not necessarily against them. Recruiting is what is going to get this team back to the top and both Hart and CBJ know this and the results are showing with the 2014 recruiting class.
 
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WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

He's obviously a bammer informant, who doesn't care about ANYTHING but destroying UT!! His reputation and future job prospects be damned! he's obviously RUINING the program!!

/Sarcasm (for the many broken sarcasm meters on here)
 
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