VQ chats with Dave Hart...

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tomq_123 said:
I actually believe that was a master stroke on Hart's part. I think he realized that Dooley was not going lead this team back to the heights of the SEC, let alone the nation. So, by not trying to keep all those coaches he helped seal Dooley's fate that much quicker. Just a theory on my part...
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I'm not so sure about that,Hart cut him off at the knees by letting them go and offense wasn't the problem,but it is all water under the bridge these days :)
 
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oregonvol said:
By that logic, he should have just kept Dooley on, since he bears no responsibility for the performance of coaches he didn't hire. (actually, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the card he's been playing and that's why he really wanted to give Dooley a 4th year).

The fact of the matter is, it's been almost 3 years. There aren't many jobs you can hold for 3 years and show nothing but dismal results, simply because of your predecessor. And if the situation you took over was so bad, you should be able to show some improvement after 3 years, right? Not just the same results or worse.

Hart kept Dooley as long as he possibly could. He signed off on the Sunseri hire. He spent a good deal of money hiring the new coach (significantly more than SEC champion Auburn spent on Malzahn) and it has yet to yield positive on field results. During his tenure, basketball attendance and football attendance has dwindled. At what point will people decide to hold him accountable for anything?
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his job was to get the AD out of the red, which I understand is happening. coaches have to win games. we had one who couldn't and he fired him. butch doesn't win some next year and he'll be on notice as well. hart isn't afraid to hold people accountable.
 
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Dave Hart's legacy at UT will be seen as solid if CBJ can continue stacking monster recruiting classes up and developing players......... At FSU, he hired Leonard Hamilton and that turned out to be a good hire for FSU so if he has to replace Martin, I am sure he will find a proven coach.
 
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sport3500 said:
Dave Hart's legacy at UT will be seen as solid if CBJ can continue stacking monster recruiting classes up and developing players......... At FSU, he hired Leonard Hamilton and that turned out to be a good hire for FSU so if he has to replace Martin, I am sure he will find a proven coach.
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Dude Hamilton for six years did nothing more then Zo has here in 3 at FSU. He'd been fired here by year four, and that's even with him making the NCAA tourney with others teams, which Zo has not done. Also, Butch Jones will go down as nothing more then a luck hire from people who are high up at UT. When you strike out on your first 7-8 options most people don't look at you and say,"Oh d*** you are good at this negotiating thing". Hart's not well thought of when it comes to hiring anybody, and why should he be? Hart's here to do a job, and that job is to get us out of debt and to re-amp UT's campus on a legitimate budget. When those tasks are accomplished, he will not be here very long unless Zo miraculously turns our B-Ball program around, and Butch is sitting at 9-4 on the entire season with a nice bowl win come the end of 2015. If we have to hire a new B-ball coach it will be a disaster IMO unless Hart takes the money available from the donors and uses it towards a proven young coach. From what I've heard, Hart will not do that nor posses the tools to "wow" anyone into coaching here. My advise to all Vol fans, hope and support Zo as he may be better then the alternative, and also pray that Butch isn't afraid to shake his staff up if things go south. If Butch fails, UT will be irrelevant for the next 7-8 seasons in football. Our best bet is to win with the coaches we have now, and keep Hart and Cheek as far away as we can from another hiring process.
 
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sport3500 said:
Dave Hart's legacy at UT will be seen as solid if CBJ can continue stacking monster recruiting classes up and developing players......... At FSU, he hired Leonard Hamilton and that turned out to be a good hire for FSU so if he has to replace Martin, I am sure he will find a proven coach.
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He also hired Steve Robinson, right? Not so good.
 
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I will take one more shot at Hart and try to refrain from saying more,I think he did back into hiring CBJ,I just wonder if he was even on Harts list when he started trying to hire a Head Football Coach and he has made changes on the Womens side of sports,which bother's me,the trimming down may be all right,but I am a more of if it isn't broke don't fix it type,I would hate to see him slowly ruin what Coach Pat Summit built for the Lady Vols,but time will tell,as it all ways does
 
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keckjm said:
If Butch fails, UT will be irrelevant for the next 7-8 seasons in football. Our best bet is to win with the coaches we have now, and keep Hart and Cheek as far away as we can from another hiring process.
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Some of the wisest and most important words posted on VolNation.
 
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oregonvol said:
So your theory is that Hart decided to give Dooley worse coaches to ensure he would have another bad year rather than simply replacing him after the Kentucky game? I don't know if I would call that a "master stroke" (unless his goal was to actually set the program back further...)
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I think Hart let Dooley back on the bus because to everyone (including us) we saw the potential to win 9 games or so in 2012. Dooley almost made beat LSU in 2010 and would've won a bowl game if not for the same crap. In 2011, we were poised to be an explosive offense like in 2012, but both Justin Hunter & Tyler Bray were injured and missed some key games.

I believe Hart was trying to be fair and take all those things into account before simply firing someone. Hart did not hire Dooley, he did hire Butch. If Butch isn't successful, it will entirely be on Butch, his staff, & Dave Hart.
 
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Burger said:
The gruden crap wasn't true at all. It was mass trolling.
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Yup. One that was a negative on the '12 Vols, and imo could have cost us at least a game or 2. But again all that wanted Dooley gone r also to blame for falling for the trolling, and willing to sacrifice the season to seal it up. A trolling job that Hart did not squash so therefore why he is on the clock now imho. If CBJ doesn't work out soon, and needs to be let go (which is not what I want for the record) Hart needs to go too. So we get a new AD and he hires his guy. This will be very helpful if we find ourselves in that situation again.
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Burger said:
The gruden crap wasn't true at all. It was mass trolling.
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Hart contacted Grudens agent, and yes I am dead serious. It was a one phone call deal, and nothing was even remotely close to being done. We did contact Grudens agent though no joke.
 
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Oskie Volum said:
Yup. One that was a negative on the '12 Vols, and imo could have cost us at least a game or 2. But again all that wanted Dooley gone r also to blame for falling for the trolling, and willing to sacrifice the season to seal it up. A trolling job that Hart did not squash so therefore why he is on the clock now imho. If CBJ doesn't work out soon, and needs to be let go (which is not what I want for the record) Hart needs to go too. So we get a new AD and he hires his guy. This will be very helpful if we find ourselves in that situation again.
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Why in the double blue hell would we allow this administration, the one that left Hamilton in place for so long, to hire another AD?
 
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