Wake up, Americans

#26
#26
Septic said:
Or it's those people who've simply hijacked the term.

What one sees depends on where one sits. When you've got the oath keepers , proud boys and the shaman all claiming that title, it's hard for regular folk to make time to distinguish them from the traditional conservatives that also stake claim to the term.

The patriot tent is large and welcoming, but it behoove someone to be a gate keeper and keep the riff raff like I previously mentioned out.
Click to expand...

The left is no different. They've let loons come in and control their messaging. And none of the rational ones speak against it in fear of being labeled an -ist.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64, Carl Pickens, norrislakevol and 4 others
#27
#27
85SugarVol said:
Yikes. This is the kind of language you see the CCP using -

“which sow discord or undermine public trust in U.S. government”
Click to expand...

" (1) the proliferation of false or misleading narratives, which sow discord or undermine public trust in U.S. government institutions; "

I recall watching this happen with the FBI, CIA, DOJ in the last administration, culminating with kicking the legs out from under our election process. Lot's of folks roaming through the halls of this forum who are fully bought into and helped "proliferate false and misleading narratives."
 
#28
#28
Ttucke11 said:
The left is no different. They've let loons come in and control their messaging. And none of the rational ones speak against it in fear of being labeled an -ist.
Click to expand...

I made no distinction on partisan lean, but since you brought it up - it's the fringe right that seems to be the ones who are looking to hijack the term "patriot," presumably in hopes that it will be viewed through the same lense as history has portrayed the revolution from England.

It's not working... If anything, it's staining the term.
 
#29
#29
Septic said:
I made no distinction on partisan lean, but since you brought it up - it's the fringe right that seems to be the ones who are looking to hijack the term "patriot," presumably in hopes that it will be viewed through the same lense as history has portrayed the revolution from England.

It's not working... If anything, it's staining the term.
Click to expand...

I know you didn't, just pointing out it's a nationwide problem. Our main disagreement would probably be the numbers. I think the "fringe right" is a much smaller subsection of people than you would like to believe.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64, Carl Pickens and norrislakevol
#31
#31
Septic said:
" (1) the proliferation of false or misleading narratives, which sow discord or undermine public trust in U.S. government institutions; "

I recall watching this happen with the FBI, CIA, DOJ in the last administration, culminating with kicking the legs out from under our election process. Lot's of folks roaming through the halls of this forum who are fully bought into and helped "proliferate false and misleading narratives."
Click to expand...

People have had entirely too much trust in our government institutions which has allowed them to assume more and more power. No one should have trust in our government institutions, we all should be looking at them with a skeptical eye.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tnslim1, AM64, NurseGoodVol and 12 others
#32
#32
Septic said:
" (1) the proliferation of false or misleading narratives, which sow discord or undermine public trust in U.S. government institutions; "

I recall watching this happen with the FBI, CIA, DOJ in the last administration, culminating with kicking the legs out from under our election process. Lot's of folks roaming through the halls of this forum who are fully bought into and helped "proliferate false and misleading narratives."
Click to expand...
Certainly.

I was talking about the .gov using that to crack down on the citizenry.
 
  • Like
Reactions: InVOLuntary, AM64, davethevol and 1 other person
#36
#36
Ttucke11 said:
Plenty of people know and agree, but half the country is begging to live in their overlords servitude.

People-learn-to-love-their-chains..jpg
Click to expand...
Half? It's more than half. More like 80%
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ttucke11
#39
#39
W.TN.Orange Blood said:
These days a Patriot = Trump supporter = a redneck racist.
Click to expand...
This post reminds me of the protestor marching in Charlottesville, Virginia from August of 2017, who was asked by a Fox News reporter why he was opposed to the removal of Confederate General Robert E. Lee's statue and responded,

"Robert E. Lee was a true American patriot."

The word "patriot" has been bastardized by extremists who now use it to describe people that fight against the government, rather than people who support and defend their country.
 
#41
#41
BowlBrother85 said:
This post reminds me of the protestor marching in Charlottesville, Virginia from August of 2017, who was asked by a Fox News reporter why he was opposed to the removal of Confederate General Robert E. Lee's statue and responded,

"Robert E. Lee was a true American patriot."

The word "patriot" has been bastardized by extremists who now use it to describe people that fight against the government, rather than people who support and defend their country.
Click to expand...
Its true from certain peoples point of view. While you might not agree with it (neither do I) you should try harder to walk in other peoples shoes, show more empathy, have less bigotry.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64, Rickyvol77 and SpaceCoastVol
#42
#42
davethevol said:
If you say anything against the government’s narrative online, you can now be considered a terrorist.
National Terrorism Advisory System | Homeland Security
While the conditions underlying the heightened threat landscape have not significantly changed over the last year, the convergence of the following factors has increased the volatility, unpredictability, and complexity of the threat environment: (1) the proliferation of false or misleading narratives, which sow discord or undermine public trust in U.S. government institutions;
Click to expand...
Well, I’ll be damned! If I wake up dead, y’all know what happened.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64
#43
#43
BowlBrother85 said:
This post reminds me of the protestor marching in Charlottesville, Virginia from August of 2017, who was asked by a Fox News reporter why he was opposed to the removal of Confederate General Robert E. Lee's statue and responded,

"Robert E. Lee was a true American patriot."

The word "patriot" has been bastardized by extremists who now use it to describe people that fight against the government, rather than people who support and defend their country.
Click to expand...
The word “patriot” simply means any man or woman willing to fight for their country. In our case freedom within it since we’ve always had it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64
#44
#44
Here's the issue:

The left was crying foul and screaming we need to do anything to get rid of Trump and his admin. The right is now saying the same.

I think they're both right, but as long as people gauge their happiness with government on a partisan curve nothing changes.
 
#45
#45
"The most terrifying force of death, comes from the hands of "Men who wanted to be left Alone".


They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love.


They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it.


They know, that the moment they fight back, the lives as they have lived them, are over.


The moment the "Men who wanted to be left Alone" are forced to fight back, it is a small form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. . . .


Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these "Men who wanted to be left Alone", fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives.


They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at the Left's door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy . . .but it will fall upon deaf ears."
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64, UT_Dutchman, DixieVol and 5 others
#46
#46
Caculator said:
"The most terrifying force of death, comes from the hands of "Men who wanted to be left Alone".


They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love.


They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it.


They know, that the moment they fight back, the lives as they have lived them, are over.


The moment the "Men who wanted to be left Alone" are forced to fight back, it is a small form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. . . .


Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these "Men who wanted to be left Alone", fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives.


They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at the Left's door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy . . .but it will fall upon deaf ears."
Click to expand...
Well said
 
  • Like
Reactions: DixieVol, norrislakevol, Caculator and 1 other person
#48
#48
BowlBrother85 said:
This post reminds me of the protestor marching in Charlottesville, Virginia from August of 2017, who was asked by a Fox News reporter why he was opposed to the removal of Confederate General Robert E. Lee's statue and responded,

"Robert E. Lee was a true American patriot."

The word "patriot" has been bastardized by extremists who now use it to describe people that fight against the government, rather than people who support and defend their country.
Click to expand...

Technically he did defend his country on two separate occasions
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64 and hog88
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top