wamp vs haslam

#76
#76
Not sure either are worth a vote. I noticed Wamp has already gone for referring to Haslam as a "millionaire oilman" or something to that effect in one of his ads. With the intent of this being an insult, all of these people are sickening.
 
#79
#79
J-P said:
Okay, I looked around at some of the info on Bloomberg's Mayors Against Illegal Guns, and Haslam's involvement with that is troubling for me. I haven't decided that I won't vote for him, I'm still looking at things, but there is a part of me that is so sick of getting suckered by moderates posing as conservatives.
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His involvement ruled him out for me, among other things. Haslam is a RINO, make no mistake about it.
 
#85
#85
volfanjustin said:
We have way too many Rs that try to run as conservatives and then govern as dem light.
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I guess my biggest problem with Ramsey is there is nothing about him that says "leader" IMO. To me he is just a politician. There is a difference between the two.
 
#86
#86
tigervol9802 said:
I guess my biggest problem with Ramsey is there is nothing about him that says "leader" IMO. To me he is just a politician. There is a difference between the two.
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I disagree, I believe he is a leader. You are right, there is a difference. I hope and think you are wrong about him, I think he is the best guy for the job.
 
#87
#87
volfanjustin said:
We have way too many Rs that try to run as conservatives and then govern as dem light.
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yeah, and I'm worried the R's haven't changed much and if they retake control will just revert to the same behavior. we need a complete overhaul of the GOP.
 
#88
#88
golfballs03 said:
yeah, and I'm worried the R's haven't changed much and if they retake control will just revert to the same behavior. we need a complete overhaul of the GOP.
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I am also concerned about this, I am not sure most of them have the backbone to actually take the steps that have to be taken to save this country. I only hope the TP influence keeps pushing them in the right direction.
 
#90
#90
volfanjustin said:
I am also concerned about this, I am not sure most of them have the backbone to actually take the steps that have to be taken to save this country. I only hope the TP influence keeps pushing them in the right direction.
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The Tea Party worries me too
 
#94
#94
tigervol9802 said:
The Tea Party itself doesn't worry me, but some of the fringe of it does. I'm about 80-90% on board with their ideas. I'm just afraid of what it might become if certain voices become the loudest.
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I completely agree. The media and dems will try their hardest to amplify the fringe to completely discredit the organization. At least within the people I know, even the conservative ones who don't really follow politics much - they have a negative view of the tea party for that reason. I'm hoping that Bauchman's move to organize a Congressional Tea Party Caucus will give a louder voice to the core conservative values that the TP is about. But on the other hand I don't want the movement hijacked by politicians just for the brand, thereby diluting it's message.
 
#95
#95
The Free Press editorial board (the conservative side) of the Chattanooga Times Free Press has endorsed Wamp.

The Times editorial board (the liberal side) endorsed Haslam...
 
#96
#96
SGMVols said:
The Free Press editorial board (the conservative side) of the Chattanooga Times Free Press has endorsed Wamp.

The Times editorial board (the liberal side) endorsed Haslam...
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who cares what they think?

think for yourself!
 
#97
#97
volfanjustin said:
Please explain.
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I agree with the basic underlying premise of the TP and it's economic values. As an group trying to push and teach conservative economic values, especially at the federal level, I have no problem with it. The people that I have met that are a part of it are very bright and very normal. No worries about the crazies from me.

My worry is that the TP is going to attempt to become too much of a political movement and that people are going to use it to gain power and the GOP becomes even more split that what it is now.

This is brief and somewhat rambling, but this is my general view of the TP and my concerns with it.
 
#98
#98
tigervol9802 said:
I agree with the basic underlying premise of the TP and it's economic values. As an group trying to push and teach conservative economic values, especially at the federal level, I have no problem with it. The people that I have met that are a part of it are very bright and very normal. No worries about the crazies from me.

My worry is that the TP is going to attempt to become too much of a political movement and that people are going to use it to gain power and the GOP becomes even more split that what it is now.

This is brief and somewhat rambling, but this is my general view of the TP and my concerns with it.
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I kind of like the thought of the TP as a political movement, in that I hope we can use the popularity to try and push the GOP to get back to their fiscal conservatism. I don't consider myself a Republican, so if the TP pushes the RINOs out of the party I am fine with that idea. On the other hand, if regular people who call themselves conservative dems want to join the movement I would be happy to have them.
 
#99
#99
volfanjustin said:
I kind of like the thought of the TP as a political movement, in that I hope we can use the popularity to try and push the GOP to get back to their fiscal conservatism. I don't consider myself a Republican, so if the TP pushes the RINOs out of the party I am fine with that idea. On the other hand, if regular people who call themselves conservative dems want to join the movement I would be happy to have them.
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I think if it becomes too much of a movement you essentially split the GOP in half and party-wise we become what the Democrats were from 94-06.

With the current people in power that absolutely terrifies me.

Simple as this - I have no problems with the TP backing a candidate during the primary, but if he loses I hope the TP is willing to support a more moderate candidate in November in general elections.

That said, I agree with their fiscal conservatism 100%.
 
#100
#100
gsvol said:
That's the nail in Haslam's coffin as far as I'm concerned.




Neither will Ramsey or Wamp.




ditto




Plus Huckabee drinks the global warming kool aid.





That is just a really stupid ignorant remark on so many levels.

For one thing McVeigh was a stupid jerk who was drawn into a plot in which he was always intended to be the lilly white fall guy.

Terry Nichols made several trips and hundreds of phone calls to the Philippines where he was in contact with islamic terrorists and where he learned his bomb making skills.

An Islamic terrorist group took credit for the bomb and it's leader said just that to FBI agents.

The Clinton administration through Janet Reno and Eric Holder went to great lengths to cover the tracks of several John Does who were described as middle eastern men and were most likely intelligence agents of one or more islamic countries. One of the John Does who exited the Ryder truck when it was parked in front of the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City was described by eye witnesses as appearing to be of middle eastern descent.
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Whoa. I always knew Clinton was an Islamicist and hated the white man.
 
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