War in Ukraine

Sure, but do you really want to subject yourself to Russia’s political ambitions allowing them to use the spigot as a weapon? The nuclear component is what escapes me more than the other. Makes no sense.
The Germans really have no choice. Its either rely on Russia or rely on the US? I'm not certain where this faux concern of Russia turning of the gas comes from outside of Russia doing it in Ukraine because they owed them close to $2 billion.
 
Germany doesn't have the most powerful military in Europe, heck I doubt they are even in the top 5. They have the strongest economy in Europe and I think you are getting mixed up. Based on Army rankings, it probably looks something like this:

1. Russia
2. France
3. United Kingdom
4. Turkey
5. Poland
6. Germany
7. Italy

Definitely Russia and France are in the top 2 I know, not quite sure after that but I would go with UK and Turkey having big armies than Germany.
 
Wait, in one breath you say talk/discuss. In the next you say don’t talk/discuss. Which is it? I don’t think talking to NK was an issue and like many administrations who tried to negotiate with NK before Trump, they showed they couldn’t keep a deal. Trump wasn’t the first.
I think he was being sarcastic in the second sentence.
 
Wait, in one breath you say talk/discuss. In the next you say don’t talk/discuss. Which is it? I don’t think talking to NK was an issue and like many administrations who tried to negotiate with NK before Trump, they showed they couldn’t keep a deal. Trump wasn’t the first.
I wasn't talking about trying to talk to North Korea while he was president, I'm talking about his fangirling over Kim from Mar-a-lago.
 
Well if/when Russia invades, expect a mountain of applications to NATO with quick approvals. Sweden and Finland to the front of the line.

US and nearly all our allies now advising their citizens to GTFO. Suggests imminent attack. Friggin Putin attends opening ceremony then launches attack during the games? Wouldn't be the first time.
 
Well if/when Russia invades, expect a mountain of applications to NATO with quick approvals. Sweden and Finland to the front of the line.

US and nearly all our allies now advertising their citizens to GTFO. Suggests imminent attack. Friggin Putin attends opening ceremony then launches attack during the games? Wouldn't be the first time.
 
Well if/when Russia invades, expect a mountain of applications to NATO with quick approvals. Sweden and Finland to the front of the line.

US and nearly all our allies now advising their citizens to GTFO. Suggests imminent attack. Friggin Putin attends opening ceremony then launches attack during the games? Wouldn't be the first time.
I'm not sure Sweden and Finland will actually join, but the discussion has certainly changed.
 
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Germany doesn't have the most powerful military in Europe, heck I doubt they are even in the top 5. They have the strongest economy in Europe and I think you are getting mixed up. Based on Army rankings, it probably looks something like this:

1. Russia
2. France
3. United Kingdom
4. Turkey
5. Poland
6. Germany
7. Italy

Definitely Russia and France are in the top 2 I know, not quite sure after that but I would go with UK and Turkey having big armies than Germany.

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Well if/when Russia invades, expect a mountain of applications to NATO with quick approvals. Sweden and Finland to the front of the line.

US and nearly all our allies now advising their citizens to GTFO. Suggests imminent attack. Friggin Putin attends opening ceremony then launches attack during the games? Wouldn't be the first time.

Nonsense. I’m told Russia just wants an old territory back and to save the poor people of Ukraine from foolishly being tricked into governing themselves. The Russian aggression stops there.
 
Nonsense. I’m told Russia just wants an old territory back and to save the poor people of Ukraine from foolishly being tricked into governing themselves. The Russian aggression stops there.
Damn NATO aggression being so close to encroaching Russian borders.
 
Well if/when Russia invades, expect a mountain of applications to NATO with quick approvals. Sweden and Finland to the front of the line.

US and nearly all our allies now advertising their citizens to GTFO. Suggests imminent attack. Friggin Putin attends opening ceremony then launches attack during the games? Wouldn't be the first time.

I would expect the same. Wonder if during Putin’s meetings with Xi over there he said, “hey, don’t wanna upstage your Olympics, but my window is short and I’m going in soon.” Probably had Xi’s concurrence.
 
The bad part is that as Russia expands her borders, new countries unwittingly become threats. You’re just sitting there minding your own business and before you know it you’re threatening Russia.
Yea his whole point is he can't allow Ukraine to join NATO and it border Russia. When he takes it over it will border Poland. 🤷‍♂️
 

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