War in Ukraine

[VolInNW]

Excalibur rounds have come down to around $68K each.

That sounds about right. JDAM kits are dirt cheap at this point. I would suppose the engineering is much more robust given the concussion and rapid acceleration forces on the artillery shell electronics, but $1MM apiece seems way high.

 

[MontyPython]

That sounds about right. JDAM kits are dirt cheap at this point. I would suppose the engineering is much more robust given the concussion and rapid acceleration forces on the artillery shell electronics, but $1MM apiece seems way high.

Yeah, still expensive, but 1 accurate shell can destroy an ammo dump with thousands of shells on the first shot.

 

[DonjoVol]

Put some Oakley Bladez' on MTG and she's Dog the bounty hunters twin.

Then I bet you're already extremely attracted to her if you honestly feel that way.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

What I like about Ukrainians is they focus on maximum damage using as little as possible. To do this they very often come down to being EXTREMELY good shots. When they really want a wallop, they reach for the m777.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Endless Ukrainian brothels?

Exactly!!

 

[NorthDallas40]

It seems like Ukraine is hitting oil and weapons depots inside russia. Another burned today. They are saying Ukraine is taking away their resupplies. Also seems russia is terrified that Ukraine will hit the bridge that goes from russia to Crimea. It would have to be a juicy target lol.

Brilliant! Because we all know smoke blinds GPS guided munitions! Absolute clowns

 

[hog88]

"We're watching Russia wither before our eyes," former US defense chief says
From CNN's Paula Hancocks in Seoul, South Korea
Former US Defense Secretary James Mattis criticized Russia’s war in Ukraine, calling it “immoral” and “operationally stupid,” while speaking Friday at the Seoul Forum 2022.
“We have a saying in America, we say that nations with allies thrive, nations without allies wither and we’re watching Russia wither before our eyes right now," Mattis said.
When asked what military lessons could be taken from the war so far, the former US Marine said: “One is don’t have incompetent generals in charge of your operations.”
He also called Russia's military performance "pathetic" and decried "the immoral, the tactically incompetent, operationally stupid and strategically foolish effort" of its campaign in Ukraine.

Mattis doesn’t have much room to call anyone incompetent. His battle plan for the 1st Marine division for the invasion of Iraq was pretty much a cluster F.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4606216/user-clip-iraqi-soldiers-surrender-gulf-war

 

[Gandalf]

Once again, regardless of political stripe in our system, the number of people on here who are openly supporting a former KGB sociopath against a MUCH smaller nation amazes me.

Putin is a murderous thug. The russian military ignores the law of armed conflict and targets civilians continuously. I don't get the fanboi fascination with either.

I am mistified as to why we care about either of them. Suddenly everyone in western media is acting like Ukraine is some great long time ally of ours and that we must defend them whatever the cost.

The reality is simply that the merchants of death have found a socially acceptable war to profiteer from once the Afghanistan shop closed down (actually it just changed players, like new and used car dealers).

Meanwhile all the sheeple bleat Ukraine weapons GOOD! Murica weapons BAAAAAAAD!

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

You can stop it now, or you can stop it later.

 

[VolInNW]

I am mistified as to why we care about either of them. Suddenly everyone in western media is acting like Ukraine is some great long time ally of ours and that we must defend them whatever the cost.

The reality is simply that the merchants of death have found a socially acceptable war to profiteer from once the Afghanistan shop closed down (actually it just changed players, like new and used car dealers).

Meanwhile all the sheeple bleat Ukraine weapons GOOD! Murica weapons BAAAAAAAD!

Well, if Gandalf is mystified, what chance do we non-wizards have?

BTW: I would bleat Ukraine weapons good, Murica weapons BETTER!

(with apologies to George Orwell)

 

[VolInNW]

What I like about Ukrainians is they focus on maximum damage using as little as possible. To do this they very often come down to being EXTREMELY good shots. When they really want a wallop, they reach for the m777.

And unlike the russian cowards, they don't target civilians.

 

[LouderVol]

Endless Ukrainian brothels?

Well crap. Should have just said so from the start. That's a cause I can get behind.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

I haven't stopped giggling yet.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

We got to be close to 5 billion by now.

 

[evillawyer]

Somebody should modify the Meatloaf (may he rest in peace) song to "One out of four ain't bad"

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

 

[DonjoVol]

And unlike the russian cowards, they don't target civilians.

Ukrainians have been targeting civilians since 2014. This is a fact. They are still shelling civilian areas in the Donbass region.

 

[RavinDave]

I still don't get some conservatives infatuation with Tulsi Gabbard. She's pro-abortion, she's a gun grabber, she wants medicare for all, free college, she's anti-nuclear energy, anti voter ID, and wants DC to be a state.

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But she does rock a white pantsuit.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

Norway just pledged a billion to Ukraine according to a Uzbekistan piece.

Pretty sure that's 5 billion. Another month it is russia.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

Ukrainians have been targeting civilians since 2014. This is a fact. They are still shelling civilian areas in the Donbass region.

Get out of Ukraine.

 

[DonjoVol]

Get out of Ukraine.

LMAO. What the heck are you talking about?

 

[MontyPython]

Russian tank tries to break turret toss record.

Impressive form!

I give them a 9.8/10.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

The world should have stopped you in 2014, but America didn't realize we were caught up in a russian trap set by social media. We know better now.

 

[norrislakevol]

I am mistified as to why we care about either of them. Suddenly everyone in western media is acting like Ukraine is some great long time ally of ours and that we must defend them whatever the cost.

The reality is simply that the merchants of death have found a socially acceptable war to profiteer from once the Afghanistan shop closed down (actually it just changed players, like new and used car dealers).

Meanwhile all the sheeple bleat Ukraine weapons GOOD! Murica weapons BAAAAAAAD!

I agree with the bolded for certain. It has been quite mystifying to watch. In my book, both countries are corrupt to the bone, and untrustworthy. Russia is the biggest over all evil of course based on history.

The ones that want perpetual war (Lindsey Graham, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, Kevin McCarthy, and many more) are doing what they normally do. I do think that some see Ukraine as an opportunity like I do to somewhat put Putin in his place. Putin has shown over and over that he will not hesitate to invade his neighbors or threaten anyone that opposes Russia with nuclear war. Eventually he would likely invade a NATO country and start WW3. If he gets his mouth busted in Ukraine though maybe that doesn't happen.....at least for a while longer. That is why I hope Ukraine blows up every Russian piece of equipment and soldier that they possibly can.