War in Ukraine

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volgr said:
Yup. Some people get it.
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Weird how there is no mention of the ongoing invasion that is actually responsible for their deaths. Ukrainians wouldnt be dying if it was just money laundering going on. There would absolutely be Ukrainians dying if it was just the Russian invasion.

Bad arguments are bad.
 
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volgr said:
Nothing. Go back to sleep.
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LMAO. I think the guys here may be right that you're simply a paid Russian stooge. You don't even have the ability to defend your lame posts.

Sad.

At any rate, thought you'd enjoy this bit o' news about your Russian equipment blown up yesterday. Seems our HARM anti-radar missiles are blowing all your buddies to hell with good effect.

Enjoy.

Russia lost Four S-300 Air Defense Systems And a Radar Station In the South of Ukraine: Operational Command Report | Defense Express
 
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MontyPython said:
At any rate, thought you'd enjoy this bit o' news about your Russian equipment blown up yesterday. Seems our HARM anti-radar missiles are blowing all your buddies to hell with good effect.

Enjoy.

Russia lost Four S-300 Air Defense Systems And a Radar Station In the South of Ukraine: Operational Command Report | Defense Express
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Yeah, you've been saying the same thing for months. It's a war. Stuff gets blown up. People die. Are you mentally retarded? Does this come as a shock to you?? Do you not understand how war works?

This is why I keep saying, show me a legitimate successful Ukrainian counteroffensive. We keep hearing about this big coming counteroffensive, a few smaller ones were tried in Kherson and ended in humiliating fashion for Ukraine.

Once I see that, I'll take notice. Until then, it is nothing more than a tick bite on a bear.
 
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LouderVol said:
Weird how there is no mention of the ongoing invasion that is actually responsible for their deaths. Ukrainians wouldnt be dying if it was just money laundering going on. There would absolutely be Ukrainians dying if it was just the Russian invasion.

Bad arguments are bad.
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Western Death Cult has urged Ukraine not to settle for peace. Western Death Cult admits this is nothing more to them than a proxy war and a way to drain Russia. This has been a huge money maker for some US politicians and US arms dealers. Are you that simple minded in real life or is it just an act to troll?
 
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volgr said:
Yeah, you've been saying the same thing for months. It's a war. Stuff gets blown up. People die. Are you mentally retarded? Does this come as a shock to you?? Do you not understand how war works?

This is why I keep saying, show me a legitimate successful Ukrainian counteroffensive. We keep hearing about this big coming counteroffensive, a few smaller ones were tried in Kherson and ended in humiliating fashion for Ukraine.

Once I see that, I'll take notice. Until then, it is nothing more than a tick bite on a bear.
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Man you simply just don't get it when it comes to how military ops work. That's fine. Watch and learn.

The Russian system is one that will simply collapse. It's become a question of when, not if, and when it does, Putin going bye bye.

Oh, and one more parting shot:

Russia’s federal budget sees exceptional drop in revenues in July; spending continues to rise
 
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volgr said:
Yeah, you've been saying the same thing for months. It's a war. Stuff gets blown up. People die. Are you mentally retarded? Does this come as a shock to you?? Do you not understand how war works?

This is why I keep saying, show me a legitimate successful Ukrainian counteroffensive. We keep hearing about this big coming counteroffensive, a few smaller ones were tried in Kherson and ended in humiliating fashion for Ukraine.

Once I see that, I'll take notice. Until then, it is nothing more than a tick bite on a bear.
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Attacks on Crimea are a new thing. A represent a pretty sizable shift in strategy. From a pure defensive/counterattacking standpoint to being on the front foot at least some of the time. If they have the capability to go on the occasional offensive far from the front lines that means Ukraine feels pretty good about what shape they are in compared to earlier in the war.

Does it mean they are winning, or will win? No. Is it a noticable change, yes.
 
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volgr said:
Western Death Cult has urged Ukraine not to settle for peace. Western Death Cult admits this is nothing more to them than a proxy war and a way to drain Russia. This has been a huge money maker for some US politicians and US arms dealers. Are you that simple minded in real life or is it just an act to troll?
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Link to any of this?

All I have seen is that our government will shell out more of my money as long as Ukraine keeps up the fight. I have seen no actual evidence we are twisting their arms to keep them in the fight. I am not even sure what they would be gaining. They were already corrupt before, we were already laundering money through them, the only reason they arent in the EU is because of this war; and NATO isnt much further behind EU membership with the same hold up. This very war you say we are forcing them to fight.

It doesnt even make logical sense.

Ukraine doesnt want peace at the price of giving up land.
 
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MontyPython said:
Man you simply just don't get it when it comes to how military ops work. That's fine. Watch and learn.

The Russian system is one that will simply collapse. It's become a question of when, not if, and when it does, Putin going bye bye.

Oh, and one more parting shot:

Russia’s federal budget sees exceptional drop in revenues in July; spending continues to rise
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You have been calling for the collapse of Russia just as long as he has predicted the fall of Ukraine. It will only end when the slavs get tired of killing each other, pull up a chair, we will be here for a while.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Ukraine could win if it had enough western support to make up for the weapons deficit (numbers) but it doesn't, so . . .
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I think that's exactly what's happening. The West doesn't want Ukraine to lose, but doesn't want to make Putin so angry that he escalates dramatically. I think we see that in our telling Ukraine that they can't use weapons we provide to strike inside Russia, so Russia doesn't strike supplies that are still in NATO territory before the reach Ukraine. Right now it seems like both sides are almost stuck, with Russia making small gains in the East, and Ukraine making limited progress in the South. Putin may have to go through a long slow grieving process as he slowly accepts Ukrainian gains. At least that's one version of how this could progress.
 
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Ukraine will not blow the bridge from russia to crimea because it is quite busy and usually has more than a few pedestrians on it. They would have blown it already.
 
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USF grad in TN said:
The West doesn't want Ukraine to lose, but doesn't want to make Putin so angry that he escalates dramatically.
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I don't know how much of it is this, and how much of the constraint is domestic political/economic limits. The latter is probably a bigger consideration in the EU.
 
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