War in Ukraine

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NorthDallas40 said:
It’s Pootin 4d chess. Russia is sucking so hard on the battle field that they’re gonna convince the whole West they couldn’t possibly be THAT incompetent 😂
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The US would have a hard time fighting this type of trench war vs Ukraine. I have doubts we would do much better than Russia has. It's not like we have a whole lot of military success to brag about the last 50 to 60 years.
 
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volgr said:
The US would have a hard time fighting this type of trench war vs Ukraine. I have doubts we would do much better than Russia has. It's not like we have a whole lot of military success to brag about the last 50 to 60 years.
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Lol. Oh I’ve no doubt you can’t see us sucking as hard as your homies. You aren’t mentally equipped to deal with that Larry.
 
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volgr said:
The US would have a hard time fighting this type of trench war vs Ukraine. I have doubts we would do much better than Russia has. It's not like we have a whole lot of military success to brag about the last 50 to 60 years.
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Yeah, I have no idea to be honest. I mean there is definitely some new components to the battle field here. Who would have every thought the world would go back to such a strict artillery and trench type warfare?

What I find confusing with these NPCs is they are giving Putin/Russia the exact thing to justify them invading i.e. can't compete with NATO. Obviously, if Russia can't compete with NATO, strategy wise it makes sense to invade. Russia wants a large buffer to land their tactical nukes. This has been known for 30 years, its no real secret or anything.... the Russian have said for 30 years what the strategy is.

NPC: Putin, your military is dog crap.
Putin: Yup you are correct, I'm sending in more dog crap.

LOL

There isn't anything complex about this, Russia has laid it out on the table for 30 years. As far as the Ukraine, there really isn't much for them to win.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I would say its a slow go for Russia, I think they were hoping for a quick surrender. I think that was obvious. Once they withdrew from the Kiev area early on... they knew it could go on for quite some time.

But the end game now is Europe as the United States/Europe have dragged this out. Ukraine lost, the country is basically destroyed, I mean what would it take for Russia to just bomb the **** out of Kiev? The Ukraine is fighting for burned out cities at this point, and zelensky's bank account.

I'm having a difficult time trying to figure out what some of these guys are trying to say. LOL Its an economic proxy war at this point, what really goes on in the Ukraine really doesn't matter too much.
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I would agree with most of that. I haven't understood the West's position from the start. Add in the fact we have seemingly pushed Saudi, Iran, India, Russia, China and a few others into a partnership of sorts...we either have the most incompetent foreign policy folks or there is something big in the works over the next few years.
 
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volgr said:
I would agree with most of that. I haven't understood the West's position from the start. Add in the fact we have seemingly pushed Saudi, Iran, India, Russia, China and a few others into a partnership of sorts...we either have the most incompetent foreign policy folks or there is something big in the works over the next few years.
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NorthDallas40 said:
Hey Einstein. Ukraine gave up their nuclear arms in 1994 after we meddled and talked them into it. The day after the USSR was dissolved Ukraine had the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world. And our idiot asses convinced them to give them up. Had we not done that none of this would be happening today.
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Correct. Russia would have never invaded Ukraine if they retained their nukes. Simple logic.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I wouldn't say its true, it could be... its irrelevant whether its true or false.

If Russia is a paper tiger than that is saying Putin is right and he should continue. LOL This has nothing to do with the Ukraine at this point, the Ukraine is just a spot on a map.

You guys are a confusing bunch. You don't want the Russian's there, so you say they can't fight or win... which is the whole reason they have to be there to start with. LOL This has only been known for the last 30 ****ing years. LOLOLOLOL

NPC Here: Putin, your military sucks and you can't beat Nato and you might not be able to defeat the Ukraine.
Putin: Exactly.
NPC Here: So, when will you go home?
Putin: I'm sending Grandmas next.
NPC Here: But they'll get blown up.
Putin: Probably.
NPC Here: So, you are going to allow Grandma to get blown up.
Putin: Well, hopefully Grandma takes a few of the Nazi Ukrainians with her first.
NPC Here: Why would you do that to Grandma?
Putin: To save millions more Grandmas and to see how Germany plans to run their economy and food supply off of firewood.


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Ummm....all I am saying is that Russia has proven on the battlefield that they use old tactics and that they have inferior equipment. They haven't changed in years. Paper military tiger. I have no problem with them getting put in their place.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Ummm....all I am saying is that Russia has proven on the battlefield that they use old tactics and that they have inferior equipment. They haven't changed in years. Paper military tiger. I have no problem with them getting put in their place.
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What you are saying Russia's strategy makes logical sense. Whether Russia loses x number of soldiers or equipment is basically immaterial at this point. Ukraine is over... the war is now onto Germany and possible Europe at this point.

You're really agreeing with Putin. Lol. Which is why he will continue to send in dog crap.

If Russia military could compete on the ground, there would be no reason for the strategy. You are saying Putins reasoning is sound.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Yeah, I have no idea to be honest. I mean there is definitely some new components to the battle field here. Who would have every thought the world would go back to such a strict artillery and trench type warfare?

What I find confusing with these NPCs is they are giving Putin/Russia the exact thing to justify them invading i.e. can't compete with NATO. Obviously, if Russia can't compete with NATO, strategy wise it makes sense to invade. Russia wants a large buffer to land their tactical nukes. This has been known for 30 years, its no real secret or anything.... the Russian have said for 30 years what the strategy is.

NPC: Putin, your military is dog crap.
Putin: Yup you are correct, I'm sending in more dog crap.

LOL

There isn't anything complex about this, Russia has laid it out on the table for 30 years. As far as the Ukraine, there really isn't much for them to win.
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Much like Putin/Russia miscalculated Ukraine rolling over in the first couple weeks, I think they also miscalculated how far the West was willing to go in propping up Ukraine. I dont think Putin could have imagined this turning into the Western proxy war it has. However, it is one that Russia grows more confident in as the months go by. I think they are quite happy to fight thos war on what looks to be largely their terms. Also remember, Russia isnt fully committed to this war. They havent mobilized or declared war on Ukraine. A lot of militia forces are doing a lot of the heavy work in Donbas and southern Ukraine.
 
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volgr said:
Much like Putin/Russia miscalculated Ukraine rolling over in the first couple weeks, I think they also miscalculated how far the West was willing to go in propping up Ukraine. I dont think Putin could have imagined this turning into the Western proxy war it has. However, it is one that Russia grows more confident in as the months go by. I think they are quite happy to fight thos war on what looks to be largely their terms. Also remember, Russia isnt fully committed to this war. They havent mobilized or declared war on Ukraine. A lot of militia forces are doing a lot of the heavy work in Donbas and southern Ukraine.
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Agreed, not sure he thought the US would give him a shot at Europe. For the record, I'm not sure it will happen but huge losses are occurring and will continue to occur.

We'll see how all this goes, the issues are clearly greater than the Ukraine now.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Hey Einstein. Ukraine gave up their nuclear arms in 1994 after we meddled and talked them into it. The day after the USSR was dissolved Ukraine had the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world. And our idiot asses convinced them to give them up. Had we not done that none of this would be happening today.
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Goodness. Give it up. You're embarrassing yourself once again. Ukraine had no nuclear weapons to give up. They did however do a masterful job at capitalizing on the issue.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Agreed, not sure he thought the US would give him a shot at Europe. For the record, I'm not sure it will happen but huge losses are occurring and will continue to occur.
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Putin doesnt want Europe. Hell, Europe doesnt want Europe which is why they are in the process of allowing themselves to be invaded. They are a dying frivolous joke.
 
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volgr said:
Putin doesnt want Europe. Hell, Europe doesnt want Europe which is why they are in the process of allowing themselves to be invaded. They are a dying frivolous joke.
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Oh yeah I didn't mean to say or imply he wants them physically. Collapse and say Uncle, sure.

If I were him. I would be like however you guys want to go with this. Lol

He is probably nicer than me...I would have leveled Kiev by now. Lol.
 
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volgr said:
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The amount of money Germans are paying for energy is astonishing. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out, if those prices are up there for over a year and continue to go up.

Repeat of last time? If so, I don't see the Germans going in the direction of Russia this time. Lol.

It's hard to imagine if prices go up and triple from here....how long could someone pay a $1 a Kwh. 😆
 
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volgr said:
The US would have a hard time fighting this type of trench war vs Ukraine. I have doubts we would do much better than Russia has. It's not like we have a whole lot of military success to brag about the last 50 to 60 years.
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Our military is greatly superior to the forces Russia took against Ukraine, in almost every category.
 
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