War in Ukraine

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volfanhill said:
See this LSU guys predictions on NIL...wow
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I did pretty well, predicted players would be getting paid like 10 years ago on the forum, although stupid NIL stuff was not mentioned. The other thing I predicted was the NCAA was toast over the long term as they were in violation of antitrust law. Not done yet on that one, but the fat lady is starting to warm up.

Ukraine is the NCAA of countries. It's dead man walking.

- ncaa is meaningless
- Ukraine is meaningless
- possible soon all of Europe could be meaningless

In the meantime, hilarious seeing Germany starting up all the coal plants. Lol. I'm so confused, AL Gore said the end was near.
 
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Escobar: All The Way To Odessa
Escobar: All The Way To Odessa | ZeroHedge

Pretty much my take, looks like Russia will continue to throw dog crap into Ukraine and watch everything break around it until they cry Uncle... if not reset more likely as an end result.

Reset looks like a more likely outcome everyday. Quite a few billion will have to go.

I ❤ the, "you will be poor and you will like it". Funny as hell.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
What you are saying Russia's strategy makes logical sense. Whether Russia loses x number of soldiers or equipment is basically immaterial at this point. Ukraine is over... the war is now onto Germany and possible Europe at this point.

You're really agreeing with Putin. Lol. Which is why he will continue to send in dog crap.

If Russia military could compete on the ground, there would be no reason for the strategy. You are saying Putins reasoning is sound.
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Lol, no you may be miss reading me. Are you saying that Putin will now attack other countries like Poland, Germany, ect? Or are you saying that economic upheaval will cause conflict continent wide? BTW, Ukraine isn't over unless Putin wants to settle for his current Donbas gains, or if Ukraine is content to stand pat.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Lol, no you may be miss reading me. Are you saying that Putin will now attack other countries like Poland, Germany, ect? Or are you saying that economic upheaval will cause conflict continent wide? BTW, Ukraine isn't over unless Putin wants to settle for his current Donbas gains, or if Ukraine is content to stand pat.
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Gez, this really isn't difficult. You believe their military is dog crap, so you agree with Putin. So, what does that mean...he will continue to send dog crap into the Ukraine. Duh. There will be nothing left of Ukraine...they lost. There is nothing really for the Ukraine to win, other than a destroyed spot on a map.

Now with all the stupid stuff the U.S. is doing Germany and the rest of Europe are at risk as they can't produce the energy and food they need. So, Russia will just continue to let Ukraine cook and see if it economically collapses Germany leads to Europe. Putin has no way to invade Europe. He is just going to watch them hang themselves with the US rope. It may or may not happen, but nobody is doing anything for energy goes to $1-2 a Kwh. We don't know if that will happen.

The zerohedge article is saying almost word for word what I said. Lol

The US could send a trillion dollars into the Ukraine and not much is going to change. It's Afghanistan all over again. Lol. Putin will just shovel more dog crap in. If it goes on long enough.... RESET. Right now its more in Russia's interest to let the Ukraine cook, let Europe waste even more money on it... it a big ole financial black hole. (that part came from the article)

In the meantime, Putin agrees with you which is why he will continue to send in dog crap. LOL

There is no real scenario on the table where the Ukraine wins, its destroyed or soon will be. Whether they plant a flag on a burned out city is pretty meaningless.

Russia doesn't have the military capacity to occupy all of the Ukraine or all of Europe.... which is why they're in the Ukraine. LOL All the nutjobs seem to agree with Putin, but than they are confused as to why they are there.
 
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volgr said:
Remember back a few months when the EU was talking tough regarding sanctioning Russia?
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Russia is bad but everyone is still buying their crap. :D At this point its just an economic war. Its very hard to gauge how the prices will impact Germany and the rest of Europe, those are some astonishing prices over there. A double or triple from here and civilization breaks down I would say. (I'm not saying that will happen)

Limited risk for russia, Ukraine is all but destroyed, vast increasing risk for Germany/Europe.

Russia could **** up the whole European Union without firing a shot i.e. USSR 80s financial collapse.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
we always have to be careful of russian traps, but it does sound like Ukraine has begun some offensive.
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Its all an Afghanistan trap at this point, see you in the years ahead. It didn't start out that way but it is now. Europe will have to spend trillions on the Ukraine, meaning either supplying them, paying them, paying the Russians through higher commodity prices or damage to their own economies.
 
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tvolsfan said:
How deranged and susceptible to propaganda do you have to be to think that Russia is as strong as ever but the West/Europe/America is about to collapse?
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Yeah its Europe's plan to pay 4-6 times for energy and food. Someone is deranged alright. LOL The Polish sitting in lines for coal is I am sure part of their great plan.

Its all the European plan.... starting the coal plants back up.

This is all heading to reset.
 
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Reports are Ukraine launched a major offensive in kershon area. Massive hit. Saw russians crawling away being shelled from everywhere.

Like I said, it could be a russian pretext, but it sounded major.
 
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tvolsfan said:
How deranged and susceptible to propaganda do you have to be to think that Russia is as strong as ever but the West/Europe/America is about to collapse?
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The introduction of our fourth gibberish speaking stooge has reinvigorated the stooge collective and at least for now it appears there are no limits to their dumbassery. Should be some quality must see TV 😂
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Reports are Ukraine launched a major offensive in kershon area. Massive hit. Saw russians crawling away being shelled from everywhere.

Like I said, it could be a russian pretext, but it sounded major.
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So, what you are saying is Putin needs to shovel in more dog crap, the statements by Dmitry Medvedev says they plan on shoveling more dog crap in for quite some time.

On a side note, the energy market is getting to the break point. We'll see how it goes, its going to be a long few years at the minimum. German's better start cutting that firewood.

Europe Plans "Emergency Intervention" In Power Market As All Hell Breaks Loose

The war is now an economic war.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Ukraine: the history behind Russia's claim that Nato promised not to expand to the east

The article actually ends with blaming Putin, but Russia has been warning Ukraine, United States and Europe of the outcome for decades.

Somehow you think Russia is the bad guy, yet, your country really caused this and has been invading countless countries for well over two decades now.

Me, I guess I say stay out of it and let them fight. I see no real U.S. interest, if the U.S. would have stopped the nonsense, I actually don't think Russia would be there... there would be little purpose.

If Europe collapses I'm not going to shed a tear, people around the world will probably be happy as those Europeans have been riding on the coat tails of United States with attacking/invading other countries for decades.
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Lol. Russia invades and somehow we are at fault with no skin in the game.

Russia has also been invading people for decades, trying to drag the US into that particular argument is pointless and self defeating as we dont have boots on the ground. Which was the very argument you just made about us invading others.

Russia has had boots on the ground in most of the old Soviet Russia breakaway countries. And in the exact same circumstances. Some "breakaway" region "rebels" the russian military just happens to be there to help the borders move, and fight for the liberation of the breakaway region. The liberation that always ends with occupation by Russian troops. The situation in Ukraine is literally the Russian playbook. But because of some cookies it must be the US's fault.
 
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LouderVol said:
Lol. Russia invades and somehow we are at fault with no skin in the game.

Russia has also been invading people for decades, trying to drag the US into that particular argument is pointless and self defeating as we dont have boots on the ground. Which was the very argument you just made about us invading others.

Russia has had boots on the ground in most of the old Soviet Russia breakaway countries. And in the exact same circumstances. Some "breakaway" region "rebels" the russian military just happens to be there to help the borders move, and fight for the liberation of the breakaway region. The liberation that always ends with occupation by Russian troops. The situation in Ukraine is literally the Russian playbook. But because of some cookies it must be the US's fault.
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Oh I never said the United States had a monopoly on invading countries. LOL

Your country has been bombing countries and innocent people for basically no reason and no objective for 20+ years. You have to admit that. I see nothing wrong with the strategy Russia has, people can condemn the violence and death but better 10s of thousands dead instead of 20-30m like the Germans did to them last time seems like a logical choice.

Its very clear why this happened, their strategy has been known for 30 years. Ukraine is lost, this is on you buddy or your government... you have to admit that.

The Russians are not going to do what you tell them, Ukraine is lost.... and Europe is now on deck. Unless the United States/Europe get the adults back in there... we're all heading to RESET.

Seems pretty clear cut, you can get mad and throw a tantrum... its not going to have any impact on where this is going.

Its almost like the United States should be minding its own business. In the meantime, Russia will probably continue to throw dog crap into the Ukraine and see whether the squeeze happens. This is just logical, you can be mad or angry about the logic but its clearly there.

Where has the United States in all these war zone for 20 years helped anything? Oh, it hasn't.

If this continues, Europe is on deck.... and global RESET is a real possibility... do you know how to grow your own food?

This would have all been over with in April if not for the actions of the United States. Thanks Joe. The Ukraine is meaningless, its another Afghanistan where the United State/Europe can throw money down the money pit.... at the same time the war moves to Europe i.e. economic.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I think trust is a strange word, I would say Putin is more or less gets straight to the point. Russia's strategy as to the Ukraine has been known for over 30 years, its not a secret. Less ******** is more honest, generally speaking.

I can tell you what though as an American, all these countries that are pawns for the United States for the last 20 years have paid the price.... Ukraine has lost, Europe is now on deck. I find it funny that countries keep doing the bidding for the United States in this manner, it doesn't really turn out well.

If one is Russian, what is confusing about Russia invading Ukraine? Logically it makes sense... Russia can't beat Nato in a ground war on the border. They are not going to allow German or United States to take out 20-30 million Russians like they (German) did during WWII. Its not complex.
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How does it logically make sense to a Russian to invade Ukraine?

I mean besides slavs wanting to kill other slavs, but you said logically.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Exactly, nobody really cares about the Ukraine, and nobody really cares about Europe.



And if Russia wants to sell arms or nukes to third party counties to blow up Americans nobody should really have a problem with that either. Proxy wars goes both ways, that is why they are in the Ukraine. LOL
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They, the Russians I am guessing, are in Ukraine because they wanted a proxy war with the US/NATO?
 
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