War in Ukraine

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LSU-SIU said:
1. Pretend you are winning.
2. Beg for money/arms even though you're winning biggle.
3. Tell everyone they're a Putin agent if they don't give you money.
4. Get money and arms.
5. Sell arms, launder money in various accounts around the world and back to the politicians accounts in the U.S. and Europe... 10% to the big guy.
6. Goto (repeat) step 1.

Interesting enough I have a personal situation that actually involves the former PM of the Ukraine, Pavel Ivanovich Lazarenko, long story. He amassed a fortune of $400m with a $10,000 a year job, lawsuits are still ongoing in the U.S., Europe and Caribbean after 25 years!! LOL He spent some time in jail in the United States, still trying to get all his money laundering back.

Money laundering is a national past time in the Ukraine.

Just wait till all those Stingers are used on commercial aircraft. Like nobody can see this coming.
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This sh** easily goes both ways.
1. Pretend you are winning
2. Drag out 60 year old tanks and bribe prisoners to go fight for you even though you’re “winning” so easily
3. Kyiv will fall in 3 days.
4. When the Russians fall back from Kyiv, it was a “feint”. They never really wanted it.
5. Ignore all video, photographic, and audio admissions/evidence of rape, torture, and murder of innocent civilians. It’s all fake.
6. The sanctions are doing nothing, the Russian economy is doing better than ever.
7. The 3 day special military operation is now in its 7th or 8th month.

Ukraine isn’t “winning” this war. But Russia has already lost. Russia has been exposed as a paper tiger. Their military is poorly trained, unmotivated, and clearly has terrible leadership. Their armor/technology/weaponry is being exposed on the battlefield. It’s honestly far below western weapons. They have nukes and a ******* nutcase who might be crazy enough to use them eventually, that’s it. I don’t agree with us sending money and arms to Ukraine on our expense. If anything, sell the sh**. But the Russians are the ones in the wrong here. They’re taking huge losses both to manpower and equipment. I hope they keep killing as many of these Russian invaders as possible. Hopefully the Russian people get sick of burying their kids over putins dreams of bringing back the old days and put the noose to his neck.
 
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615vols said:
This sh** easily goes both ways.
1. Pretend you are winning
2. Drag out 60 year old tanks and bribe prisoners to go fight for you even though you’re “winning” so easily
3. Kyiv will fall in 3 days.
4. When the Russians fall back from Kyiv, it was a “feint”. They never really wanted it.
5. Ignore all video, photographic, and audio admissions/evidence of rape, torture, and murder of innocent civilians. It’s all fake.
6. The sanctions are doing nothing, the Russian economy is doing better than ever.
7. The 3 day special military operation is now in its 7th or 8th month.

Ukraine isn’t “winning” this war. But Russia has already lost. Russia has been exposed as a paper tiger. Their military is poorly trained, unmotivated, and clearly has terrible leadership. Their armor/technology/weaponry is being exposed on the battlefield. It’s honestly far below western weapons. They have nukes and a ******* nutcase who might be crazy enough to use them eventually, that’s it. I don’t agree with us sending money tans arms to Ukraine on our expense. If anything, sell the sh**. But the Russians are the ones in the wrong here. They’re taking huge losses both to manpower and equipment. I hope they keep killing as many of these Russian invaders as possible. Hopefully the Russian people get sick of burying their kids over putins dreams of bringing back the old days and put the noose to his neck.
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You are describing why the Russians are in the Ukraine. Geez this isn't all complex. Russia has known for 30 years they can't compete in a traditional ground offensive against NATO hence the agreement, and why they are in the Ukraine. What you are really saying is Putin is right. <-----

The sanctions have clearly helped Russia, and have clearly and maybe fatally wounded Europe. I'm not sure what planet you are on. Ukraine lost, there is no win for Ukraine. Next on deck is Germany and probably the rest of Europe.

Super powers aren't going to be fighting it out on the battlefield, if they do... that is what Ukraine is for. Tactical nukes.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
You are describing why the Russians are in the Ukraine. Geez this isn't all complex. Russia has known for 30 years they can't compete in a traditional ground offensive against NATO hence the agreement, and why they are in the Ukraine. What you are really saying is Putin is right.

The sanctions have clearly helped Russia, and have clearly and maybe fatally wounded Europe. I'm not sure what planet you are on. Ukraine lost, there is no win for Ukraine. Next on deck is German and probably the rest of Europe.

Super powers aren't going to be fighting it out on the battlefield.
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No, I’m in reality. You are in fantasy land clearly. Maybe those 60 year old tanks will finally be the game changer for the Russians lol
 
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615vols said:
No, I’m in reality. You are in fantasy land clearly. Maybe those 60 year old tanks will finally be the game changer for the Russians lol
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No, you don't even understand that war is irrelevant. Russia could be in there on horses and it doesn't matter. The war is economic at this point. The Ukraine already lost, there is no win for the Ukraine.

It doesn't matter how much money or artillery they get from the West, Ukraine lost. At this point, its onto see how much Europe is going to lose.

There isn't anything complex about this. You think Putin cares how may 60 year old tanks get blown up? Nope. The United States is now giving him destruction of Europe, or its at least on deck. What is going on in the Ukraine is mostly irrelevant at this stage and has been for months.

It doesn't matter what happens to that **** hole.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
No, you don't even understand that war is irrelevant. Russia could be in there on horses and it doesn't matter. The war is economic at this point. The Ukraine already lost, there is no win for the Ukraine.
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This all new level of dumbassery and gibberish is a much needed breath of fresh air in this thread. Bravo Shemp! 😂
 
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LSU-SIU said:
No, you don't even understand that war is irrelevant. Russia could be in there on horses and it doesn't matter. The war is economic at this point. The Ukraine already lost, there is no win for the Ukraine.

It doesn't matter how much money or artillery they get from the West, Ukraine lost. At this point, its onto see how much Europe is going to lose.

There isn't anything complex about this.
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You actually said the sanctions are helping Russia 😂
Like I said, Russia has already lost. Enjoy your life in fantasy land and trying to convince everyone with common sense otherwise though.
 
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615vols said:
The other 3 make me chuckle with their posts in here. This guy is just embarrassing honestly lol
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Embarrassing. On what planet are you on that Russia isn't selling oil, gas, grain, fertilizer, etc. at a huge mark up?

How much is typical German paying per KwH now? LOL
 
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615vols said:
Keep telling yourself that. The sanctions are “helping” Russia 😂
Meanwhile, the world laughs at Russias incompetence.
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So, if I increase the price of something in 6 months by factors of 2-10... that is incompetence? And you are forcing your long time enemy (German) to go look for firewood this winter... that is incompetence?

If they're incompetent, what's the problem?

Everyone told them sanctions won't work, and they won't work on China either. China withdraws from the Federal Reserve System, ATMs around the world would probably stop working within a few hours. The ruble is doing very well over the last year, of course, it nosedive initially at the start of the war.... now its much higher than before the invasion. That might not be the complete picture but unlike the Germans... I'm sure they'll have plenty of heat for the winter and food. LOL

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LSU-SIU said:
Exactly, nobody really cares about the Ukraine, and nobody really cares about Europe.



And if Russia wants to sell arms or nukes to third party counties to blow up Americans nobody should really have a problem with that either. Proxy wars goes both ways, that is why they are in the Ukraine. LOL
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Nukes? That is a different ball game. We, like Russia though, sell plenty of conventional arms to other countries.
 
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615vols said:
This sh** easily goes both ways.
1. Pretend you are winning
2. Drag out 60 year old tanks and bribe prisoners to go fight for you even though you’re “winning” so easily
3. Kyiv will fall in 3 days.
4. When the Russians fall back from Kyiv, it was a “feint”. They never really wanted it.
5. Ignore all video, photographic, and audio admissions/evidence of rape, torture, and murder of innocent civilians. It’s all fake.
6. The sanctions are doing nothing, the Russian economy is doing better than ever.
7. The 3 day special military operation is now in its 7th or 8th month.

Ukraine isn’t “winning” this war. But Russia has already lost. Russia has been exposed as a paper tiger. Their military is poorly trained, unmotivated, and clearly has terrible leadership. Their armor/technology/weaponry is being exposed on the battlefield. It’s honestly far below western weapons. They have nukes and a ******* nutcase who might be crazy enough to use them eventually, that’s it. I don’t agree with us sending money and arms to Ukraine on our expense. If anything, sell the sh**. But the Russians are the ones in the wrong here. They’re taking huge losses both to manpower and equipment. I hope they keep killing as many of these Russian invaders as possible. Hopefully the Russian people get sick of burying their kids over putins dreams of bringing back the old days and put the noose to his neck.
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Very true right there.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Very true right there.
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I wouldn't say its true, it could be... its irrelevant whether its true or false.

If Russia is a paper tiger than that is saying Putin is right and he should continue. LOL This has nothing to do with the Ukraine at this point, the Ukraine is just a spot on a map.

You guys are a confusing bunch. You don't want the Russian's there, so you say they can't fight or win... which is the whole reason they have to be there to start with. LOL This has only been known for the last 30 ****ing years. LOLOLOLOL

NPC Here: Putin, your military sucks and you can't beat Nato and you might not be able to defeat the Ukraine.
Putin: Exactly.
NPC Here: So, when will you go home?
Putin: I'm sending Grandmas next.
NPC Here: But they'll get blown up.
Putin: Probably.
NPC Here: So, you are going to allow Grandma to get blown up.
Putin: Well, hopefully Grandma takes a few of the Nazi Ukrainians with her first.
NPC Here: Why would you do that to Grandma?
Putin: To save millions more Grandmas and to see how Germany plans to run their economy and food supply off of firewood.


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LSU-SIU said:
Yet, Ukraine was seeking Nato membership and nuclear arms. That is the danger of proxy wars, they don't have to play by your rules.
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Hey Einstein. Ukraine gave up their nuclear arms in 1994 after we meddled and talked them into it. The day after the USSR was dissolved Ukraine had the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world. And our idiot asses convinced them to give them up. Had we not done that none of this would be happening today.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
1. Pretend you are winning.
2. Beg for money/arms even though you're winning biggle.
3. Tell everyone they're a Putin agent if they don't give you money.
4. Get money and arms.
5. Sell arms, launder money in various accounts around the world and back to the politicians accounts in the U.S. and Europe... 10% to the big guy.
6. Goto (repeat) step 1.

Interesting enough I have a personal situation that actually involves the former PM of the Ukraine, Pavel Ivanovich Lazarenko, long story. He amassed a fortune of $400m with a $10,000 a year job, lawsuits are still ongoing in the U.S., Europe and Caribbean after 25 years!! LOL He spent some time in jail in the United States, still trying to get all his money laundering back.

Money laundering is a national past time in the Ukraine.

Just wait till all those Stingers are used on commercial aircraft. Like nobody can see this coming.
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"Biggle"

Is that some kind of beagle mixed breed?
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I wouldn't say its true, it could be... its irrelevant whether its true or false.

If Russia is a paper tiger than that is saying Putin is right and he should continue. LOL This has nothing to do with the Ukraine at this point, the Ukraine is just a spot on a map.

You guys are a confusing bunch. You don't want the Russian's there, so you say they can't fight or win... which is the whole reason they have to be there to start with. LOL This has only been known for the last 30 ****ing years. LOLOLOLOL
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Edit: and his edit is even more epic! 🤣

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615vols said:
No, I’m in reality. You are in fantasy land clearly. Maybe those 60 year old tanks will finally be the game changer for the Russians lol
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How does Russia continue to take land with 60 year old tanks while at the same time saying Russia has no answer for advanced US weapon systems like HIMARS and M777?

You guys just say sh1t without giving it much thought.
 
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volgr said:
How does Russia continue to take land with 60 year old tanks while at the same time saying Russia has no answer for advanced US weapon systems like HIMARS and M777?

You guys just say sh1t without giving it much thought.
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I would say its a slow go for Russia, I think they were hoping for a quick surrender. I think that was obvious. Once they withdrew from the Kiev area early on... they knew it could go on for quite some time.

But the end game now is Europe as the United States/Europe have dragged this out. Ukraine lost, the country is basically destroyed, I mean what would it take for Russia to just bomb the **** out of Kiev? The Ukraine is fighting for burned out cities at this point, and zelensky's bank account.

I'm having a difficult time trying to figure out what some of these guys are trying to say. LOL Its an economic proxy war at this point, what really goes on in the Ukraine really doesn't matter too much.
 
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volgr said:
How does Russia continue to take land with 60 year old tanks while at the same time saying Russia has no answer for advanced US weapon systems like HIMARS and M777?

You guys just say sh1t without giving it much thought.
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You keep chest thumping over these “gains” but after a big initial push your homies have largely petered out Larry. And have in fact been pushed out of the North!

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