War in Ukraine

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Septic said:
It's not interesting.

But seems like a totally legit source. Thanks for sharing... eyeroll.giif
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I never said it was fact. I believe the writer also said the video was still being analyzed. It didn't come from mother Jones site so it must be 100% false
 
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happy-go_vol said:
It's not a tin foil hat. How many global leaders said it was a chance to reset the globe for economic justice, etc? Goodness, get some news from other sites than pmsnbc. Sheep on son
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Yeah, it's tin foil hat conspiracy sh*t you're peddling.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
 
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happy-go_vol said:
Well moron, I never said it was fact. I believe the writer also said the video was still being analyzed. It didn't come from mother Jones site so it must be 100% false
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Easy with the ad homs man, no need to resort the last bastion of your failed argument this early..

My guess is that you're one of the loudest when it comes to MSM #fakenews screeches but are completely lost to the irony of you rolling this turd out on to the field.
 
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Septic said:
Easy with the ad homs man, no need to resort the last bastion of your failed argument this early..

My guess is that you're one of the loudest when it comes to MSM #fakenews screeches but are completely lost to the irony of you rolling this turd out on to the field.
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Imagine going through life having so little emotional maturity, that you have to change your screen name multiple times on an anymore message board, bc you can't behave like an adult. Dude needs to take a long hard look in the mirror.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Russia has clamped down hard, and is installing harsh punishments for deserters and dissidents.
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The max penalty in the United States for desertion is death, matter of fact, just disobeying an order can have that penalty. And the United States has used. although rare. Of course, the United States really hasn't been threatened at home since really the 1800s, not really, most Americans have no real concept of war.
 
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MontyPython said:
Sorry to hear you're broke.

Meanwhile, the US is still the richest country on the planet.

12% debt servicing ain't an issue.
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12% wouldnt be bad if we were actually in the black, and if that 12% was paying off the principal. Considering we have a deficit, of what at least 33%, that 12% matters a lot. Because that interest payment just keeps growing, and really doesnt help that interest rates are going up.

What percentage is ok for you? 20%, 25%? Because we are going to get there FAST.
 
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Burhead said:
Also Ukrainian officials are saying if these votes go forward there will be no diplomatic answer to this war.
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Most likely they already went past that line. Russia probably has no intention of settling anything, anytime in the very short-term. Europe is now on deck.

The Russian will have to eventually turn it into a parking lot. <----- its not complex That area must be cleared.
 
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Burhead said:
Because they are not Russian lands?
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They have historically been Russian lands since the days of Catherine the Great. Now they are simply engaging in a democratic process to make it official. This seems like a peaceful resolution and don't understand how this is seen as escalating war.
 
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Burhead said:
Also Ukrainian officials are saying if these votes go forward there will be no diplomatic answer to this war.
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So they are going to continue fighting even after this you believe? And then what? Take a chance on losing Nicolaiv, Odessa and Kharkiv next? At what point does pragmatism set in for the Ukrainians and they come to terms with the fact that they have no leverage in this conflict and they risk being a landlocked and portioned state?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
They have historically been Russian lands since the days of Catherine the Great. Now they are simply engaging in a democratic process to make it official. This seems like a peaceful resolution and don't understand how this is seen as escalating war.
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Let me know how you will feel if Mexico did something similar to Texas Ras.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Explain to me how a peaceful democratic exercise is an escalation of war.
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Bruh.

1. It wont be a peaceful event. Armed men with guns standing over every vote isnt peaceful.
2. It wont be democratic. Willing to bet less than 50% of the total voting population shows up. Also willing to bet the referendum will be weighted. Either with only options to join Russia, or the phrasing will be convoluted to ensure no one chooses the option to stay out. Something like "a. Peacefully join Russia, or b. Continue the violence against the aggressor Ukraine ensuring many of you die if you choose this option. Ignoring that many will still die if they join Russia.
3. By joining Russia those people will be forced to fight for Russia, and have their assets seized by Russia. That's not peaceful.
4. Annexation only comes after a peace treaty, pushing that annexation forward changes the game, hence escalation. It would be like calling a game in the early 3rd quarter after your team has gone flaccid and seen their lead shrink from 4 touchdowns to 1. They are trying to circumvent an ending they see coming/very possible that osnt favorable to them.
5. These same type of votes are exactly how this mess started. In Ukraines eyes this is opening a new phase of the war, so again escalation.
 
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