War in Ukraine

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LSU-SIU said:
They are at war, that wasn't in the context of what you said. Come on man.
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Gotcha. Perfectly acceptable for us to kill Taliban and Al Queda members though right?

I was just wondering where you draw the line on calling something evil is all. I stand by my comments. Kill our enemies, and be very cruel about it. If I had been in charge during the war on terror we would have been finished in 2 or 3 years and saved a lot of dough, with no more boots on the ground after that. Problem is that many in Washington love perpetual war. They love to go build damn schools and try to make friends. That's not how you do it.
 
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Burhead said:
Putin’s speech today was just as crazy, if not more, than the one when he justified the invasion in February. He has clearly lost his mind and I’m starting to doubt that he wouldn’t use nukes in this conflict.
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So I just got finished listening to his speech. I don't know what part of it you listened to that triggered you, but I didn't hear one lie or distortion in that speech. He spoke about the hegemonic ambitions of the US and how we use the USD and sanctions to control their vassal states, spoke about the collective West being against national sovereignty, culture, traditional values, the family. He spoke about the so-called "rules based order" and how that is simply a way for the West/US to set rules for themselves and another set of rules for everyone else. He then ran down a list of crimes and atrocities that the UK and UD have engaged in over the last 200 years.

One other thing of note, which seems plausible imo, he mentioned the unnecessary bombing campaigns on Dresden, Hamburg and Cologne... saying that the only reason why the UK and US did that was to intimidate the USSR.

He dropped so many uncomfortable truths and facts in that speech that puts to shame any other speech coming out of any western leader in the past 40 years. The only thing that comes close is his 2007 speech at the Munich Security Conference.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So I just got finished listening to his speech. I don't know what part of it you listened to that triggered you, but I didn't hear one lie or distortion in that speech. He spoke about the hegemonic ambitions of the US and how we use the USD and sanctions to control their vassal states, spoke about the collective West being against national sovereignty, culture, traditional values, the family. He spoke about the so-called "rules based order" and how that is simply a way for the West/US to set rules for themselves and another set of rules for everyone else. He then ran down a list of crimes and atrocities that the UK and UD have engaged in over the last 200 years.

One other thing of note, which seems plausible imo, he mentioned the unnecessary bombing campaigns on Dresden, Hamburg and Cologne... saying that the only reason why the UK and US did that was to intimidate the USSR.

He dropped so many uncomfortable truths and facts in that speech that puts to shame any other speech coming out of any western leader in the past 40 years. The only thing that comes close is his 2007 speech at the Munich Security Conference.
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That's absolute lunacy.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So I just got finished listening to his speech. I don't know what part of it you listened to that triggered you, but I didn't hear one lie or distortion in that speech. He spoke about the hegemonic ambitions of the US and how we use the USD and sanctions to control their vassal states, spoke about the collective West being against national sovereignty, culture, traditional values, the family. He spoke about the so-called "rules based order" and how that is simply a way for the West/US to set rules for themselves and another set of rules for everyone else. He then ran down a list of crimes and atrocities that the UK and UD have engaged in over the last 200 years.

One other thing of note, which seems plausible imo, he mentioned the unnecessary bombing campaigns on Dresden, Hamburg and Cologne... saying that the only reason why the UK and US did that was to intimidate the USSR.

He dropped so many uncomfortable truths and facts in that speech that puts to shame any other speech coming out of any western leader in the past 40 years. The only thing that comes close is his 2007 speech at the Munich Security Conference.
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LMAO @Velo Vol you correctly called our resident stooges response with this gif. I mean we shouldn’t be shocked but the sheer level of Putin Homerism is amazing 😂

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Rasputin_Vol said:
So I just got finished listening to his speech. I don't know what part of it you listened to that triggered you, but I didn't hear one lie or distortion in that speech. He spoke about the hegemonic ambitions of the US and how we use the USD and sanctions to control their vassal states, spoke about the collective West being against national sovereignty, culture, traditional values, the family. He spoke about the so-called "rules based order" and how that is simply a way for the West/US to set rules for themselves and another set of rules for everyone else. He then ran down a list of crimes and atrocities that the UK and UD have engaged in over the last 200 years.

One other thing of note, which seems plausible imo, he mentioned the unnecessary bombing campaigns on Dresden, Hamburg and Cologne... saying that the only reason why the UK and US did that was to intimidate the USSR.

He dropped so many uncomfortable truths and facts in that speech that puts to shame any other speech coming out of any western leader in the past 40 years. The only thing that comes close is his 2007 speech at the Munich Security Conference.
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Wow, how does Putin's scrotum sweat taste? Seems like you may have first-hand knowledge.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So I just got finished listening to his speech. I don't know what part of it you listened to that triggered you, but I didn't hear one lie or distortion in that speech. He spoke about the hegemonic ambitions of the US and how we use the USD and sanctions to control their vassal states, spoke about the collective West being against national sovereignty, culture, traditional values, the family. He spoke about the so-called "rules based order" and how that is simply a way for the West/US to set rules for themselves and another set of rules for everyone else. He then ran down a list of crimes and atrocities that the UK and UD have engaged in over the last 200 years.

One other thing of note, which seems plausible imo, he mentioned the unnecessary bombing campaigns on Dresden, Hamburg and Cologne... saying that the only reason why the UK and US did that was to intimidate the USSR.

He dropped so many uncomfortable truths and facts in that speech that puts to shame any other speech coming out of any western leader in the past 40 years. The only thing that comes close is his 2007 speech at the Munich Security Conference.
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How many millions died during Stalin’s purges?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
He spoke about the hegemonic ambitions of the US and how we use the USD and sanctions to control their vassal states, spoke about the collective West being against national sovereignty, culture, traditional values, the family. He spoke about the so-called "rules based order" and how that is simply a way for the West/US to set rules for themselves and another set of rules for everyone else. He then ran down a list of crimes and atrocities that the UK and UD have engaged in over the last 200 years.
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The irony of this is so rich.
 
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So now Turkstream is in jeopardy... these damn sanctions are going to kill Europe this winter and beyond... Also not that this is one of the pipelines that would likely be supplying Serbia and Hungary. All that needs to happen now is for the pipelines running through Western Ukraine to get shut off somehow. Hungary and Serbia may not escape the sanctions debacle at this point.

Russia Claims EU Sanctions Are Preventing TurkStream Pipeline Maintenance | OilPrice.com

South Stream Transport is the Dutch-unit of the Kremlin-controlled natural gas giant, Gazprom, which manages the TurkStream pipeline running under the Black Sea from Russia to Turkey and on to the Balkans and Central Europe.

In the letter, a copy of which was obtained by RFE/RL, Aksyutin ordered them to “suspend the execution of all contracts related to the technical support of the gas pipeline, including design, manufacture, assembly, testing, repair, maintenance and training.”
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What Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson Don’t Understand About War

The success of the Ukrainian military over the past few months, along with the evolution of the Ukrainian state itself toward a more tolerant, more liberal norm, reveals what makes a better army in the modern world. Brains mean more than brawn, and adaptability means more than mindless aggression. Openness to new ideas and new equipment, along with the ability to learn quickly, is far more important than a simple desire to kill.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Gotcha. Perfectly acceptable for us to kill Taliban and Al Queda members though right?

I was just wondering where you draw the line on calling something evil is all. I stand by my comments. Kill our enemies, and be very cruel about it. If I had been in charge during the war on terror we would have been finished in 2 or 3 years and saved a lot of dough, with no more boots on the ground after that. Problem is that many in Washington love perpetual war. They love to go build damn schools and try to make friends. That's not how you do it.
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Wait, why were we in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan? Why was there a need to wipe out those countries but not address the Saudis?
 
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KB5252 said:
You have made some decent points in the past but this is idiocy. I'm no Biden supporter and won't carry water for him but this statement is sheer lunacy.
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How is it lunacy? Liz Truss and Joe Biden are far more dangerous and far less intelligent than Putin. Biden can't stop shaking hands with air and Liz Truss didn't even know Rostov was part of Russia, yet she was the British foreign minister... and she came off as far too willing to push the nuclear button a month ago during the debates, in spite of being fully aware that it would possibly lead to the destruction of humanity.

The collective IQ of Biden, Truss, Olaf Sholtz, and Ursula van der Leyen wouldn't be enough to light a Christmas tree bulb, muchless match Putin. Those are facts.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The Russians went in to save their people.

The Americans went in to steal the oil and regime change.
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America has interests..... Sure. But please save the bullshat about Russia caring about people. This is the same regime that is throwing conscripts into the meat grinder to face the enemy with guns pointed at their backs to make sure they don't run.

If you think they care about people you're either a fool or a shill. This about interests plain and simple. Neither sides claims are pure.
 
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