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This isn't a matter of debate or speculation. Employees of twitter have specifically stated that they are doing so. Theoretically, it is just for use by the company but the reality is that there is a very high likelihood that they are sharing their profiling data with government agencies, both here and abroad (including China).
Let me be more specific. You've come to accept it and now are concerned about people voting on a poll and having some type of repurcussions by being put on a black list. This is not the America that you want. Yet, Putin bad.
 
The same thing Russia did in Vietnam.
That is called a non-sequitur and whataboutism.

But since you went there.

Vietnam was also under French control for years before we got involved in Vietnam. Vietnam was a victim of European colonialism for years.

Ho Chih Minh received much of his political education in France. Some of it here in the U.S.

We lost 58,000 lives due to the Vietnam War. The death toll for Vietnam was much much higher. Some have it as many as 3 million Vietnamese lost their lives during that war.
 
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Uhhh.What?
The UK and Israel already have nukes.
I know this. I'm simply replying to the comment with regards to someone being concerned about some Muslim country getting nukes if Russia collapses. My response to that was that the concern should be far more if the 3 countries I named got them. The UK and Isreal do have nukes, but giving them acces to the Russian stockpiles would be very tempting for them to use, imo. And the Saudis are just a loose cannon that would definetly be concerning if they got a hold of them.
 
Let me be more specific. You've come to accept it and now are concerned about people voting on a poll and having some type of repurcussions by being put on a black list. This is not the America that you want. Yet, Putin bad.

As is often the case, you almost seem like you know what you are talking about BUT actually you really have no idea. Just because I accept what is blatantly obvious is a fact doesn't mean I condone or encourage it, nor that I am not working to do something about it.
 
Is it me or does EL always rely on some Twit from some dumbass thespian, celebrity, or even nobody tweet to make a point?
 
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I'm amazed anyone is stupid enough to vote for Russia and put themselves on a social media blackout list. Pretty much a sure method for Twitter to mark your account as one of the "undesirables".
This is simply a problematic post. It seems defeatist and seems like it is accepted that people cannot be expected to voice their opinion openly and freely on social media without some type of action being brought up.

Voting on an online poll created by Elon Musk shouldn't ever be considered "stupid".
 
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I know this. I'm simply replying to the comment with regards to someone being concerned about some Muslim country getting nukes if Russia collapses. My response to that was that the concern should be far more if the 3 countries I named got them. The UK and Isreal do have nukes, but giving them acces to the Russian stockpiles would be very tempting for them to use, imo. And the Saudis are just a loose cannon that would definetly be concerning if they got a hold of them.

You have some insightful statements on occasions but this analysis is so moronic, it is hard to know where to start. These 3 countries would be in the top 10% LEAST LIKELY to use a few thousand extra nukes if they had them. Primarily because they have much to lose. These would be nearly useless and a headache for the UK , who would spend a good bit dismantling them. Israel could have some benefit but they largely have enough already for their "sampson option" vis a vie their Islamic neighbors and basically big daddy USA is their ultimate security guarantor. Saudia Arabia would like to have them primarily to drive a stake in the Shia dreams of ending the house of Saud. More than that though, they know the materials are easily traced if they were used so would be very reluctant to sell them to others. They MIGHT sell them to another Islamic state who was looking for defensive purposes. Thats about it.
 
That is called a non-sequitur and whataboutism.

But since you went there.

Vietnam was also under French control for years before we got involved in Vietnam. Vietnam was a victim of European colonialism for years.

Ho Chih Minh received much of his political education in France. Some of it here in the U.S.

We lost 58,000 lives due to the Vietnam War. The death toll for Vietnam was much much higher. Some have it as many as 3 million Vietnamese lost their lives during that war.
And for what? We spend nearly two decades there only for the the Viet Cong to win. No different than Afghanistan. Two decades fighting the Taliban for them to be in power today.
 
You have some insightful statements on occasions but this analysis is so moronic, it is hard to know where to start. These 3 countries would be in the top 10% LEAST LIKELY to use a few thousand extra nukes if they had them. Primarily because they have much to lose. These would be nearly useless and a headache for the UK , who would spend a good bit dismantling them. Israel could have some benefit but they largely have enough already for their "sampson option" vis a vie their Islamic neighbors and basically big daddy USA is their ultimate security guarantor. Saudia Arabia would like to have them primarily to drive a stake in the Shia dreams of ending the house of Saud. More than that though, they know the materials are easily traced if they were used so would be very reluctant to sell them to others. They MIGHT sell them to another Islamic state who was looking for defensive purposes. Thats about it.
I simply disagree with your assertion that they would be the least likely.

Also, I never mentioned anything about them selling nukes to other countries.
 
You have some insightful statements on occasions but this analysis is so moronic, it is hard to know where to start. These 3 countries would be in the top 10% LEAST LIKELY to use a few thousand extra nukes if they had them. Primarily because they have much to lose. These would be nearly useless and a headache for the UK , who would spend a good bit dismantling them. Israel could have some benefit but they largely have enough already for their "sampson option" vis a vie their Islamic neighbors and basically big daddy USA is their ultimate security guarantor. Saudia Arabia would like to have them primarily to drive a stake in the Shia dreams of ending the house of Saud. More than that though, they know the materials are easily traced if they were used so would be very reluctant to sell them to others. They MIGHT sell them to another Islamic state who was looking for defensive purposes. Thats about it.
And not to mention, with regards to the UK, look at the idiot they have in place right now.

 
So if, according to you, they are the same race then why are people in here upset. After all they are same race right?

Have been playing Xbox again? I am beginning to think that is where you are learning these schoolyard insults.

Just saw this in the Kamala/Hurricane Ian thread... Can you be white and Jewish? Is whie a race? Is Jewish a race?


'Is your husband’s life worth less bc he’s white?': Marjorie Taylor Greene Gets Very Personal in Her Criticism of Kamala Harris as Republicans tear into her hurricane 'equity' comments

  • Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene criticized Vice President Kamala Harris with a brazen tweet calling out her husband Doug Emhoff
Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia asked Vice President Kamala Harris if her husband's life was 'worth less' because he is white in an astonishingly brazen Twitter post on Monday.

The conservative firebrand was reacting to Harris' recent comments suggesting that equity should be prioritized over equality when distributing hurricane relief in Puerto Rico and Florida.

Greene likened Harris' remarks to discrimination in her Monday tweet.

'@KamalaHarris hurricanes do not target people based on the color of their skin. Hurricanes do not discriminate,' the outspoken congresswoman wrote.

'And neither should the federal government giving aid to people suffering from the devastation of Hurricane Ian.'

She added: 'Is your husband’s life worth less bc he’s white?'

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'Is your husband’s life worth less bc he’s white?' Greene said in the inflammatory post (pictured: Harris alongside her husband, Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff)

Harris' husband, Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff, is white and Jewish.

Marjorie Taylor Greene asks Kamala Harris if she thinks her husband is 'worth less bc he's white' | Daily Mail Online
 
This isn't a matter of debate or speculation. Employees of twitter have specifically stated that they are doing so. Theoretically, it is just for use by the company but the reality is that there is a very high likelihood that they are sharing their profiling data with government agencies, both here and abroad (including China).

Yep, it seems that everybody (except the government supposedly - a joke) is profiling everybody else, collecting and selling personal data, and mining what they have. Why would anyone expect twitter to be doing differently. Seems like twitter just might have done a little banning and censoring in the past.
 
They would likely use them as either a false flag (UK) or use them pre-emptively (Isreal). I can say this because both countries have a history of doing those things.

The Saudis are just loose cannons that are brazen enough to do just about anything (Jamal Khashoggi).

I am not really fond of the House of Saud, but chopping up a journalist is not even in the same ballpark as launching nukes.
 
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The US had just as many, if not more instigations and meddlings as the USSR. Guatemala, Iran, The Congo, Vietnam, Laos, Chile, Domincan Republic...

You act like America was out here spreading freedom and democracy. Stop drinking the Kool-aid.

And what do you mean by "Soviet if you wish"? That is what it was. That is a fact. The USSR is not the Russian Federation of today or Tsarist Russia before the revolution. That was a unique and terrible time for the people in that region for over 70 years.

I am probably just as jaded about our state department and people like the Dulles brothers as you are. In fact, I think we'd be in a far better place if we just executed and buried diplomats world wide - all of them. However, the thing you fail to grasp is that our meddling has been generally reactive and Sino/Soviet meddling proactive - and ours has often been in response to Sino/Soviet meddling. You are generally throwing the flag on the guy who fought back and ignoring the instigator. Banana Republics and bananas have always been a problem - much of it caused by the greed, graft, and corruption of the Latin type European colonizers in the southern part of this hemisphere. You obviously weren't around for enough of the Cold War to gain historical perspective.
 

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