War in Ukraine

[LSU-SIU]

Nobody is really worried about land taken, or retaken, or reclaimed or retaken from land retaken. LoL

If one is really upset about it all... enter the ring. If you stand on the fringe of the ring while throwing punches for one side... don't be surprised if you get hit.

 

[tvolsfan]

Nobody is really worried about land taken, or retaken, or reclaimed or retaken from land retaken. LoL

Your constant posts on the subject indicate your lack of concern.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[AM64]

We need to move all that cheap labor mfg from China into Mexico and Central America. It brings the money back into our hemisphere, raises the living conditions in those countries and thus encourages them to stay where they are, and builds trade alliances in our hemisphere.

Even more is that we need to face reality and readjust/reset expectations and labor costs here. Unfortunately that's one of the big factors that politicians use to divide the electorate. Dems helped back organized labor for the vote beginning decades ago and sold the country down the road. You can have higher and escalating labor costs for only so long before the whole Ponzi scheme collapses. We're becoming Greece by living well beyond our means when we aren't insulated and isolated from the rest of the world.

 

[apevol]

Not just Burisma, but you also have LNG sales, weapons sales, human trafficking, drugs, etc. There is a reason why Ukraine was the poorest and most corrupt country in Europe. And had Putin not come along when he did, Russia would be a whore for these same people right now. They miss Yeltsin and the 1990s.

Ukraine is the most corrupt european country west of Russia because it borders Russia. Its been the kremlins strategy to be surrounded by countries with broken backs incapable of presenting a threat to them, also being reliant upon them.

 

[evillawyer]

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[AM64]

You can call it splitting hairs, but I have watched in the last 10 years 20 percent of the workforce at one place I work at be slowly replaced by robots. More of that is coming. It will require half the workers to run an assembly line in 10 years at some places. The workers that are left are slowly getting paid more too.

So who is paying for those workers who no longer have jobs? We are still basically a closed system. Displaced workers don't get put into a food blender; they still have to somehow acquire the basic needs like food, shelter, clothing, healthcare, etc. What have you accomplished if in the name of effiency you put people out of work and the better compenstated clingers have to pay taxes (and government overhead) to reallocate income to the unemployed. There is no free lunch - and basically the laws of thermodynamics (and most other things) say you can't get something for nothing ... and you can't get as much as you thought you could (frictional effects and losses).

 

[KB5252]

Say what? You clearly said "reclaimed". You just exposed yourself.

I think everyone is aware Ukraine was once a Soviet satellite. Sounded to me like he was saying Russian goals from their point of view.... Which is correct..... To annex parts of it's former satellite.......... Which, by the way you dismissed as Putin's goal at the time.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Yet we have a political party here in the U.S. that was

1. Responsible for the Trail of Tears
2. Openly supported the U.S. going to Civil War. Which it did.
3. Was against the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments
4. Had politicians that were largely against women having the right to vote.
5. Put Japanese Americans in concentration camps
6. Dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan.
7. Openly supported segregation.
8. Had 21 U.S. Senators and 90 House members vote against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
9. Strongly supports abortion.
10. Major cities where they govern have high crime and homelessness rates.
11. Supports teaching CRT
12. Supports transhumanism
13. Is for mandatory vaccinations and mass censorship.
14. Openly supports Antifa violence.
15. Supports pronoun policing

Yet somehow this political party is still one of 2 major political parties in the U.S.

lol

But whattabout Merica!?!

 

[FLVOL_79]

Reclaimed? Did you just slip up and admit that Donbas belongs to Russia after all?

You are playing the Donbas card waaaaaaaay too hard Comrade. Your cover is blown.

 

[MontyPython]

Chappelle show references always get a like from me

Plus pretty sure @volgr loves some crack.

 

[AM64]

Buts its internal debt they cant offset or pay off. Which would be fine if they were completely communist but the capitalistic parts of their economy, hint the parts making money, are going to get slaughtered by any type of reset.

You already see China refusing to admit reality as they require companies to keep producing even if there is no demand, like they did with steel a few years back. They have to keep people employed or they have big internal issues.

You have to wonder about "leaders" who fail to understand balance. China sees a need to keep workers busy even if they sometimes produce nothing useable. We seem bent on putting people out of jobs without comprehending that people without income have no means to support themselves. It's like China is trying to get people off the government dole, and we are trying to addict people to the government dole. It's not going to end well in either place.

 

[volgr]

I don't trust Musk or Bremmer...but out of his own mouth...or fingertips I guess. I don't really see Putin talking with Musk about a Ukrainian peace as being plausible, especially since Musk "helped" Ukraine with Starlink. So, I guess I probably lean toward Musk telling the truth here.

 

[Vol737]

These are the people that ran that "election."

That’s some diplomacy right there.

 

[AM64]

Top Dems Pivot Against Weapons Sales To Saudi Arabia After Oil Production Cut



Saudi Arabia is now the bad guys again. LoL The White House should have a like a big board outside showing us who all the good guys and bad guys are.

We should have put an end to OPEC years ago. There's just no good way to do it. Cartels are nothing more than economic blackmail and the operators nothing more than thugs at best.

 

[LSU-SIU]

We should have put an end to OPEC years ago. There's just no good way to do it. Cartels are nothing more than economic blackmail and the operators nothing more than thugs at best.

IF the world did away with cartels the United States would cease to exist in its present form of being the Banking Cartel of world.

What you are describing is what the United States is doing to around the world, which is where all this is going i.e. reset.

Right now, you have one remaining place that is only starting to get it i.e. Europe, the vast majority of the world figured it out quite awhile ago.

 

[Septic]

I hear the Russians are sending boys to the front with three bottle rockets and a pack of black cats these days.

I dunno, I got caught in the back of the head with a roman candle in a fireworks fight when I was about 9. I remember not being a fan of that.

There wasn't a lot to do in Bolivar.

 

[Septic]

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@Rasputin_Vol Is this what a winning army looks like?

 

[USF grad in TN]

So who is paying for those workers who no longer have jobs? We are still basically a closed system. Displaced workers don't get put into a food blender; they still have to somehow acquire the basic needs like food, shelter, clothing, healthcare, etc. What have you accomplished if in the name of effiency you put people out of work and the better compenstated clingers have to pay taxes (and government overhead) to reallocate income to the unemployed. There is no free lunch - and basically the laws of thermodynamics (and most other things) say you can't get something for nothing ... and you can't get as much as you thought you could (frictional effects and losses).

Most of the jobs from 100 or 200 years ago are gone. Guys who would have been blacksmiths and shoeing horses are installing tires on cars. We haven't lost the ability to want new stuff and pay someone to provide it.

 

[KB5252]

I dunno, I got caught in the back of the head with a roman candle in a fireworks fight when I was about 9. I remember not being a fan of that.

There wasn't a lot to do in Bolivar.

I grew up in South Nashville...... Firework wars were fun............ Until they weren't.

 

[AM64]

I think everyone is aware Ukraine was once a Soviet satellite. Sounded to me like he was saying Russian goals from their point of view.... Which is correct..... To annex parts of it's former satellite.......... Which, by the way you dismissed as Putin's goal at the time.

Pootin's goal is to put the band back together - even if the old bandmembers want no part of it. They've been there, done that, and want no part of it.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Pootin's goal is to put the band back together - even if the old bandmembers want no part of it. They've been there, done that, and want no part of it.

Or as the video posted yesterday said, maybe you can just listen to him. LoL

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

This tweet does not mention the French/Italian donations.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ras doesn't understand subtlety. Apparently using force to take land once taken by force and later freed is still just an act of reclamation ... unless the US has any hand at all in the process - then it's an outrage.

What are you talking about?

 

[AM64]

Most of the jobs from 100 or 200 years ago are gone. Guys who would have been blacksmiths and shoeing horses are installing tires on cars. We haven't lost the ability to want new stuff and pay someone to provide it.

It works when people move with the trend - when one door closes another opens. Cars replaced the horses, for example. The dream that automation will replace human labor and humans will benefit by moving into higher level trades is a myth. If you still employ the number of people supposedly in higher skilled positions to produce and operate the automation that replaced them; then you are paying more for the same labor plus the capital cost of the equipment. It doesn't add up. The "excess capacity" to build more through automation requires more consumption - where do the extra consumers come from? We're living the fantasy that a service oriented workforce can replaced a production oriented workforce - it can't. Manufacturing, farming, and other production adds value to products; service doesn't and there are losses in just moving money around.