War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Long lines at ATMs
Kremlin Coup
Finland and Sweden join NATO
Strike on Wagner Group HQ
Patriot missiles
Oil price cap
Bakhmut is not strategically important
Kherson Kherson Kherson
MH-17
"f*** the EU.."
Kerch Bridge
Starlink
Balakliya
Article 5
100k Russians dead
Stealing chips from washing machines/refrigerators/televisions
Institute for the Study of War
"Ruble will be rubble"
Million Man Ukrainian army
McDonalds/IKEA/Coca Cola/H&M/Louis Vuitton
Eggs
Russia running out of missiles/drones
Russia can't fight in winter/frostbite
Polish Mig-29s
Javelina
Azovstal "evacuation"
Stingers
No fly zones
40 mile caravan outside of Kyiv
Switchblade drones
Ghost of Kiev
Obese General
Blood Cancer
Sham referenda
"isolated"
ruble will be rubble
American/Qatari/Azerbaijani LNG
Butcher of Bucha
"the international community"
Russia sabotaged their own pipelines
Parkinsons
HIMARS
A-10 Warthogs
Abrams tanks
I saw it on the evening news
It must be true if it's on Twitter
100 Billion will bring Russia to its knees
Snake Island
Meat grinder
Game changers
Ukrainian Nazis are no big deal
Lukashenko's breath mints
Tooth Fairy
Soviet Union still exists
Trailer Park of the world
Pootin
Pootin Stooges
Larry Moe Curly
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Two week special military operation.
 
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AM64 said:
Nope, I'm saying that Turkey gets put in a more difficult position with Sweden in NATO, and two NATO nations straddling the Kattegat. Turkey had to appease one side and anger the other, and the problem grows if the Russian Baltic fleet becomes less secure and Russia moves more to the Black Sea.
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Doesn't Turkiye have a say about Finland and Sweden entering NATO? What kind of pressure or leverage would NATO have over Turkiye even if Finland and Sweden become members? I'm not following your logic.

AM64 said:
This whole Ukrainian thing is about Crimea, sea bases, and easy access from Russia proper to Crimea.
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Of course it is. That is why the US/NATO was so upset about the Russians reclaiming Crimea.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Doesn't Turkiye have a say about Finland and Sweden entering NATO? What kind of pressure or leverage would NATO have over Turkiye even if Finland and Sweden become members? I'm not following your logic.


Of course it is. That is why the US/NATO was so upset about the Russians reclaiming Crimea.
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You're making my comment too difficult. Turkey has a say about Sweden joining NATO, and I think their objection is not really the one they are claiming. I think their objection is really that if Sweden joins NATO, it puts more emphasis on the Bosporus, and, therefore, on Turkey. They don't want to be in the position of antagonizing the rest of NATO by giving Russian warships free passage through the Baltic, nor do they want to make NATO happy and antagonize Russia.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
Liberal Media

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Those things can all be true.
 
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Yep and this is why sending them billions is a mistake. Their leadership will fight this bare bones and walk away rich. Probably go into exile and siphon more off for the cause.
Zelensky was and is a thug. Both him and Putin can be evil at the same time. I don't think we should pick a side . Let the the two fight it out. Let's spend our money securing our border.
 
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AM64 said:
You're making my comment too difficult. Turkey has a say about Sweden joining NATO, and I think their objection is not really the one they are claiming.
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And you could be making too difficult Turkiye's reason for objecting. Maybe it really is about their support of Kurdish extremists.

AM64 said:
I think their objection is really that if Sweden joins NATO, it puts more emphasis on the Bosporus, and, therefore, on Turkey. They don't want to be in the position of antagonizing the rest of NATO by giving Russian warships free passage through the Baltic, nor do they want to make NATO happy and antagonize Russia.
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They are going to be able to do that whether or not Finland/Sweden join. Thanks to these silly sanctions, you all have been able to make Erdogan major gas hub feeding into Europe. So you really think that Erdogan is shaking in his boots about being able to leverage not only The Bosporus, but also being a major player in delivering gas to Europe? You really think this or is this you coping?

Putin, Erdogan discussed regional gas hub in Turkey, Russian news agencies report

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Decision on the "ceiling of gas prices"

Stupid for two reasons.

Firstly, as in the case of oil, it is not dictated by economic logic, but by zoological hatred of Russia based on the maniacal thesis “Russians are to blame for everything.” That is, it is a purely voluntaristic non-market measure. Moreover, it was adopted with a huge number of reservations, allowing to block its application. And that's why it won't work seriously.

Secondly, it is taken from the powerlessness of the EU to influence the situation. Just on the principle of "let's do something." That is why the limit has been set at a level that a couple of years ago would have seemed surprising to absolutely all participants in the gas market, including spot traders. After all, none of the bidders on the TTF futures exchange could imagine the price of 180 euros per kWh (approx. 2000 usd per 1000 cubic meters) even in the happiest or worst dream. This means that gas prices will remain at a very high level for European consumers.

Conclusion: moronic Russophobia, and with it the impoverishment of ordinary Europeans, is growing. Merry Christmas🎅🏼!

 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Doesn't Turkiye have a say about Finland and Sweden entering NATO? What kind of pressure or leverage would NATO have over Turkiye even if Finland and Sweden become members? I'm not following your logic.


Of course it is. That is why the US/NATO was so upset about the Russians reclaiming Crimea.
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Fool.

Of course Turkey will use its vote to garner concessions from NATO.

In the end, it will 100% support Sweden and Finland joining.

You're too blind to see the obvious.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Decision on the "ceiling of gas prices"

Stupid for two reasons.

Firstly, as in the case of oil, it is not dictated by economic logic, but by zoological hatred of Russia based on the maniacal thesis “Russians are to blame for everything.” That is, it is a purely voluntaristic non-market measure. Moreover, it was adopted with a huge number of reservations, allowing to block its application. And that's why it won't work seriously.

Secondly, it is taken from the powerlessness of the EU to influence the situation. Just on the principle of "let's do something." That is why the limit has been set at a level that a couple of years ago would have seemed surprising to absolutely all participants in the gas market, including spot traders. After all, none of the bidders on the TTF futures exchange could imagine the price of 180 euros per kWh (approx. 2000 usd per 1000 cubic meters) even in the happiest or worst dream. This means that gas prices will remain at a very high level for European consumers.

Conclusion: moronic Russophobia, and with it the impoverishment of ordinary Europeans, is growing. Merry Christmas🎅🏼!

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rekinhavoc said:
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Yep and this is why sending them billions is a mistake. Their leadership will fight this bare bones and walk away rich. Probably go into exile and siphon more off for the cause.
Zelensky was and is a thug. Both him and Putin can be evil at the same time. I don't think we should pick a side . Let the the two fight it out. Let's spend our money securing our border.
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Hunter Biden and I believe Pelosi's son both did business over in Ukraine. I bet Zelensky has all kinds of dirt on the Bidens and Pelosis as well as some other politicians.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Hunter Biden and I believe Pelosi's son both did business over in Ukraine. I bet Zelensky has all kinds of dirt on the Bidens and Pelosis as well as some other politicians.
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He is a dirtbag just like Putin. World leaders that celebrity darlings usually are.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
FkoDM6vWYAIcH0z


Yep and this is why sending them billions is a mistake. Their leadership will fight this bare bones and walk away rich. Probably go into exile and siphon more off for the cause.
Zelensky was and is a thug. Both him and Putin can be evil at the same time. I don't think we should pick a side . Let the the two fight it out. Let's spend our money securing our border.
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D.C. cares more about securing the borders of Ukraine, Jordan, and Oman than it does our own. As long as a dem is in the White House they will continue to demonstrate this, and demonstrate that they absolutely hate our country and despise average Americans.
 
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norrislakevol said:
D.C. cares more about securing the borders of Ukraine, Jordan, and Oman than it does our own. As long as a dem is in the White House they will continue to demonstrate this, and demonstrate that they absolutely hate our country and despise average Americans.
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I'll correct just one thing you said. As long as the Uniparty is in the White House they will continue to demonstrate this.
 
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