War in Ukraine

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NorthDallas40 said:
Look clown boy you’ve espoused higher minimum wage. You’re “entitled” to it after all as your mad hash slinging skills are essential. Go look up the libertarian view of the acceptable minimum wage. Hint: it’s zero.
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I never said anything about higher "minimum wage". I said corporations and businesses should be paying higher wages. You and your pals in here really need to learn to read. As a matter of fact I never said I was for minimum wage.

When are you going to take me up on that offer to discuss the views of Libertarian idols Benjamin Tucker and Lysander Spooner? We can even discuss Tucker's idol Pierre- Joseph Proudhon. Surely you're not scared to learn where Libertarianism gets its roots from.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I never said anything about higher "minimum wage". I said corporations and businesses should be paying higher wages. You and your pals in here really need to learn to read. As a matter of fact I never said I was for minimum wage.

When are you going to take me up on that offer to discuss the views of Libertarian idols Benjamin Tucker and Lysander Spooner? We can even discuss Tucker's idol Pierre- Joseph Proudhon. Surely you're not scared to learn where Libertarianism gets its roots from.
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They aren’t my Libertarian idols Curly. Go read Gary Johnson’s 2016 platform on minimum wage. He wanted to abolish it. That was the 2016 Libertarian policy in the presidential race.

Yes you’re a socialist. Or you can progress to communist if you like. To each according to their need. Well go get the damn skills that the free market says are worth your need and STFU
 
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DonjoVol said:
I never said anything about higher "minimum wage". I said corporations and businesses should be paying higher wages. You and your pals in here really need to learn to read. As a matter of fact I never said I was for minimum wage.

When are you going to take me up on that offer to discuss the views of Libertarian idols Benjamin Tucker and Lysander Spooner? We can even discuss Tucker's idol Pierre- Joseph Proudhon. Surely you're not scared to learn where Libertarianism gets its roots from.
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Again, these admittedly (by them) strategically important jobs should go to Taiwan instead of to Americans because they ask for too much in wages. But, we can throw tens of billions to Kyiv and risk war with China. They would rather go bankrupt feeding the MIC or going to WW III instead of paying Americans to do these strategically important jobs.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Again, these admittedly (by them) strategically important jobs should go to Taiwan instead of to Americans because they ask for too much in wages. But, we can throw tens of billions to Kyiv and risk war with China. They would rather go bankrupt feeding the MIC or going to WW III instead of paying Americans to do these strategically important jobs.
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Well done Moe. Your troll monitor jist added another potato to your daily sack load.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
They aren’t my Libertarian idols Curly. Go read Gary Johnson’s 2016 platform on minimum wage. He wanted to abolish it. That was the 2016 Libertarian policy in the presidential race.

Yes you’re a socialist. Or you can progress to communist if you like. To each according to their need. Well go get the damn skills that the free market says are worth your need and STFU
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No wonder you're a joke. You support fellow jokes like Gary Johnson. The same Gary Johnson who supports mandatory vaccinations. Yeah some Libertarian stance that is Proctor.

Once again if Marx is considered the founder of communism then it's fair to discuss the views of the two people are considered the founders of Libertarianism which are Spooner and Tucker. You really are afraid to touch that subject aren't you Proctor?
 
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DonjoVol said:
No wonder you're a joke. You support fellow jokes like Gary Johnson. The same Gary Johnson who supports mandatory vaccinations. Yeah some Libertarian stance that is Proctor.

Once again if Marx is considered the founder of communism then it's fair to discuss the views of the two people are considered the founders of Libertarianism which are Spooner and Tucker. You really are afraid to touch that subject aren't you Proctor?
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Bad news Curly. Jo Jo is on record stating all federal wage standards should be abolished. I don’t see the need to debate Libertarian wage ideals with a self demonstrated socialist. Or communist. Pick your poison. And the Libertarian party policy is clear. No federal wage standards.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Again, these admittedly (by them) strategically important jobs should go to Taiwan instead of to Americans because they ask for too much in wages. But, we can throw tens of billions to Kyiv and risk war with China. They would rather go bankrupt feeding the MIC or going to WW III instead of paying Americans to do these strategically important jobs.
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These guys have never read the writings of Adam Smith and other early capitalists. And they are totally ignorant of the founding fathers of Libertarianism - Benjamin Tucker and Lysander Spooner. What they are advocating for is not capitalism and doesn't even match that of the mainstream Libertarian Party.

I also find it funny we have these self proclaimed Libertarians who are pro war, pro big government spending, and pro censorship. Their views don't even match that of the Libertarian Party. Some use the Libertarian label because they are afraid to admit they are left wing socialist Democrats.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Bad news Curly. Jo Jo is on record stating all federal wage standards should be abolished. I don’t see the need to debate Libertarian wage ideals with a self demonstrated socialist. Or communist. Pick your poison. And the Libertarian party policy is clear. No federal wage standards.
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You're creating an argument that didn't even exist Proctor. So stop deflecting.

Once again. Let's talk about the founding fathers of Libertarianism. What are you afraid of Proctor?

The views you are spouting in this thread over this war do not match that of the mainstream Libertarian Party. They'd be embarrassed to be associated with people like you.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
What specific Trump virtue or policy stopped this? What policy did Biden change that putin used as a justification to do this. Has putin or the Russian government ever articulated the reasoning they decided to this once Biden took office?
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Was it as soon as this WH and the democrat party started demonizing a large percent of American voters they disagreed with?

Was it when this WH and administration started working with Big Tech to censor Americans and protect China about the origins of Covid?

Was it when this WH and DOJ were more interested in trying to label concerned parents as white supremacists so they could concoct reasons to arrest them?

How about when this WH and the democrat party opened up our southern border to Mexican cartels and illegal immigration as American teenagers died of fentanyl overdoses?

Perhaps when they discharged soldiers for not taking the covid vaccine?

Or maybe it was when they introduced CRT in the military using a race hustler?

It could've been when the Biden WH was more worried about hiring men who wore dresses and called themselves a woman then putting them in a military uniform?

I'm sure I've missed many observations. Perhaps then I would think as a world leader these morons in the US all have moose knuckles.

And I didn't even get to the dreadful withdrawal from Afghanistan where Biden left like Kiffin did Knoxville. Then appeared to have little compassion, remorse, or regret for mistakes that were made. When those caskets were coming out and he checked his watch ⌚ that was just unforgettable.

Maybe it's all the stumbling, bumbling 🤡s in the Biden Administration.
 
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DonjoVol said:
You're creating an argument that didn't even exist Proctor. So stop deflecting.

Once again. Let's talk about the founding fathers of Libertarianism. What are you afraid of Proctor?

The views you are spouting in this thread over this war do not match that of the mainstream Libertarian Party. They'd be embarrassed to be associated with people like you.
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No I’m completely on point. I’ve told you exactly what the Libertarian party stance was in the last two elections. Abolish federal wage standards. It doesn’t get any more mainstream than that. What they would get a real kick out of is an overly self entitled socialist (that’s you) trying to misrepresent their stated party platform in both of those elections 🤡

And nobody is stopping you from posting your views Curly. It should be entertaining to see you claim they replace the stated party platform in both last elections. But that’s your sales job.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No I’m completely on point. I’ve told you exactly what the Libertarian party stance was in the last two elections. Abolish federal wage standards. It doesn’t get any more mainstream than that. What they would get a real kick out of is an overly self entitled socialist (that’s you) trying to misrepresent their stated party platform in both of those elections 🤡
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Good lord. We weren't even talking about minimum wage. Which by the way isn't something I've advocated for you moron.

Now let's talk about your pro war, pro big government spending and pro censorship you ideals you've been spouting in this thread which are completely against the Libertarian platform. If you tried pushing those views in a Libertarian Party meeting they'd hopefully laugh you out of the room. And while we're at let's discuss Benjamin Tucker and Lysander Spooner - the founding fathers of Libertarianism. Mises and Cato even love them both.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Good lord. We weren't even talking about minimum wage. Which by the way isn't something I've advocated for you moron.

Now let's talk about your pro war, pro big government spending and pro censorship you ideals you've been spouting in this thread which are completely against the Libertarian platform. If you tried pushing those views in a Libertarian Party meeting they'd hopefully laugh you out of the room. And while we're at let's discuss Benjamin Tucker and Lysander Spooner - the founding fathers of Libertarianism. Mises and Cato even love them both.
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You missed the edit clown boy. Nobody is stopping you presenting your case and convincing anyone that your idiotic views somehow replace the stated views of the party. You don’t need my assistance with that have at it.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Was it as soon as this WH and the democrat party started demonizing a large percent of American voters they disagreed with?

Was it when this WH and administration started working with Big Tech to censor Americans and protect China about the origins of Covid?

Was it when this WH and DOJ were more interested in trying to label concerned parents as white supremacists so they could concoct reasons to arrest them?

How about when this WH and the democrat party opened up our southern border to Mexican cartels and illegal immigration as American teenagers died of fentanyl overdoses?

Perhaps when they discharged soldiers for not taking the covid vaccine?

Or maybe it was when they introduced CRT in the military using a race hustler?

It could've been when the Biden WH was more worried about hiring men who wore dresses and called themselves a woman then putting them in a military uniform?

I'm sure I've missed many observations. Perhaps then I would think as a world leader these morons in the US all have moose knuckles.

And I didn't even get to the dreadful withdrawal from Afghanistan where Biden left like Kiffin did Knoxville. Then appeared to have little compassion, remorse, or regret for mistakes that were made. When those caskets were coming out and he checked his watch ⌚ that was just unforgettable.

Maybe it's all the stumbling, bumbling 🤡s in the Biden Administration.
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Connect those random dots for me.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Was it as soon as this WH and the democrat party started demonizing a large percent of American voters they disagreed with?

Was it when this WH and administration started working with Big Tech to censor Americans and protect China about the origins of Covid?

Was it when this WH and DOJ were more interested in trying to label concerned parents as white supremacists so they could concoct reasons to arrest them?

How about when this WH and the democrat party opened up our southern border to Mexican cartels and illegal immigration as American teenagers died of fentanyl overdoses?

Perhaps when they discharged soldiers for not taking the covid vaccine?

Or maybe it was when they introduced CRT in the military using a race hustler?

It could've been when the Biden WH was more worried about hiring men who wore dresses and called themselves a woman then putting them in a military uniform?

I'm sure I've missed many observations. Perhaps then I would think as a world leader these morons in the US all have moose knuckles.

And I didn't even get to the dreadful withdrawal from Afghanistan where Biden left like Kiffin did Knoxville. Then appeared to have little compassion, remorse, or regret for mistakes that were made. When those caskets were coming out and he checked his watch ⌚ that was just unforgettable.

Maybe it's all the stumbling, bumbling 🤡s in the Biden Administration.
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So now that the war has started and we signed and agreement to provide aid … 🤷‍♂️
 
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