War in Ukraine

[NorthDallas40]

Kinky, you'll have to take me to Waffle House first. I'm not cheap.

Lol don’t be coy yes you are

 

[LouderVol]

The best answer was no NATO in Ukraine, a neutral status for Ukraine, Donbas remaining in Ukraine but having a certain level of autonomy and recognizing Crimea as part of the Russian Federation.

You mean the Russian answer. Every single one of your points favors Russia only. This is why you pleas for diplomacy falls on deaf ears.

There was no NATO in Ukraine, and still isnt or article 5 would have been called up. Ukraine was neutral, Russia didnt want to share which is why they bought off the president to sign a Russian deal.

 

[LouderVol]

To the last drop of Ukrainian blood or for ever long it takes.

Yeah the Russians arent able to kill them any faster so it will be a while.

Maybe you should also start saying until the last Russian conscript and prisoner too. Since it's not just Ukrainians dying.

 

[NorthDallas40]

The Russians have found themselves bogged down in a US/NATO sponsored quagmire that will negatively affect them for years to come and may lead to the ouster of their President. It appears you as well as our "foreign enemies" may have miscalculated America's strengths and weaknesses.

Edit: I notice you never miss an opportunity to bash Biden. Some might suggest you suffer from..well.. BDS.

As I’ve called him out on when an R gets back in the WH (in 2024) he’ll immediately flip 180 and champion aid that will keep flowing. And it will keep flowing if Ukraine hasn’t fallen. There is no honest broker here it’s all party platform. When pointed out that war is here now what there are no answers.

 

[BeardedVol]

You mean the Russian answer. Every single one of your points favors Russia only. This is why you pleas for diplomacy falls on deaf ears.

There was no NATO in Ukraine, and still isnt or article 5 would have been called up. Ukraine was neutral, Russia didnt want to share which is why they bought off the president to sign a Russian deal.

Not only that, Ukraine didn't have a MAP, and both France and Germany were hard "no" on them joining.

Ukraine had zero prospects of getting into NATO prior to 2/24/2022, but will end up getting a NATO bid specifically because of Putin's choice to escalate his 8-year-old invasion.

 

[LouderVol]

Many of them aren't choosing to fight. They are being dragged from their homes or off the street to go fight.

Russian prisoners, Russian conscripts, Russian draft dodgers

 

[LouderVol]

The pro war neocon and democrat crowd here in this thread do not care about the Ukrainian lives being lost daily. They have stated this on multiple occasions.

It's about their choice.

You would rather be a live slave. Enough of them would rather be dead freemen. I guess you would rather we were a british colony.

You are conflating our support of their desire to fight for their freedom as us wanting them all dead. We are supporting their fight, right or wrong. Our support stops when the war does or Ukraine says it doesnt need anymore. The war does not stop when our support ends. You continue to argue a tail wagging the dog frame of mind.

 

[Burhead]

Make historical Russia great again I say!

 

[LouderVol]

How sick do you have to be to call throwing away all of these lives in a war that even you know that Ukraine cannot win as an "investment"?

How sick do you have to be to call the deaths of hundred of thousands as the moral good?

 

[Burhead]

It'll always be Konigsberg to me.

 

[NorthDallas40]

It'll always be Konigsberg to me.

Would absolutely be karma if the orcs FAFO and wind up losing Sevastopol and Kaliningrad

 

[LouderVol]

I assumed we were both referring to political right. Maybe that is my disconnect.

Military. SS, medicare, medicaid, subsidies and bailouts for some industries.

 

[LouderVol]

I still don’t know why you even offered him. You know it’s a waste of time. I won’t ever engage him on any serious detailed discussion he’s too much of a disingenuous troll and flat out liar to waste the time on.

He says he wants an honest discussion. If no one offers he will just use the lack to claim some victory. This way he is repeatedly on record crawfishing from any real discussion.

 

[KB5252]

Question: Why would the Ukrainians invade another sovereign country that poses no threat to them? What has Transnistria (or if you want, Moldova) done to the Kyiv regime?

Let's ask Russia!....... Since they have all the experience in this arena.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Military. SS, medicare, medicaid, subsidies and bailouts for some industries.

As what? Right socialism? I would say that list covers both right and left which I am guessing you are proving your initial assertion with? Which I won’t disagree on.

 

[NorthDallas40]

He says he wants an honest discussion. If no one offers he will just use the lack to claim some victory. This way he is repeatedly on record crawfishing from any real discussion.

Thanks for taking one for the team. Having engaged him before I’ll just refuse, point, and mock and laugh. Less stress and same end result.

 

[Pacer92]

 

[evillawyer]

And if we know anything about Trump, it's that if he says it, you can take it to the bank

 

[evillawyer]

So you mean it's not about NATO expansion?

 

[Orangeburst]

Never seen someone so eat up with Twitter

 

[BeardedVol]

The same president that pardoned Mike Flynn?
Michael Flynn transcripts released, calls with Russian diplomat detailed

 

[NorthDallas40]

LMAO

 

[LouderVol]

Thanks for taking one for the team. Having engaged him behind I’ll just refuse, point, and mock and laugh. Less stress and same end result.

It's no stress for me. Usually it just involves actually reading the stuff they post and realizing it doesnt say what they want it to say. Which is why they completely duck the subject after they get countered, and revert to deflection or personal attacks.

 

[Velo Vol]

London traffic alert.

 

[Pacer92]

The same president that pardoned Mike Flynn?
Michael Flynn transcripts released, calls with Russian diplomat detailed

Yep…the same president that was visiting a disaster site here in the US…as Biden was being led around by arm filming PR stunts in Europe..