War in Ukraine

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Russia can hardly make headway against bum Ukraine but if we stop treating Ukraine like our sugar baby then Russia will storm across Europe like the wehrmact in 1940.

Makes no sense.

I agree to this end. But I don't think that's what this is about from the US perspective. I think we are thinking longer out, say 10 years or so. We know a confrontation with China is coming. I think from the US perspective this is about weakening Russia now so China has a less effective partner 10 years from now.

That is my long game theory. In the meantime it throws water on the smoke Russia has been fanning in the region for the last 15 years.
 
I agree to this end. But I don't think that's what this **** from the US perspective. I think we are thinking longer out, say 10 years or so. We know a confrontation with China is coming. I think from the US perspective this is about weakening Russia now so China has a less effective partner 10 years from now.

That is my long game theory. In the meantime it throws water on the smoke Russia has been fanning in the region for the last 15 years.

Our government doesn't have a track record of long term planning so I highly doubt they are thinking 10 years out. More likely they aren't thinking past the next election.
 
There is unfortunately too many politicians already in the GOP supporting the billions and weapons going to the national socialists over in Ukraine. We need more American patriots like Marjorie Taylor Greene in office.
She's a damn idiot fool. No better or worse than AOC, they are the same, do nothing, hyper partisan heifer, just window dressed a little different for consumption.
 
There is unfortunately too many politicians already in the GOP supporting the billions and weapons going to the national socialists over in Ukraine. We need more American patriots like Marjorie Taylor Greene in office.

If you hadn't ever regaled us previously with your mind numbing narratives on this matter, this statement alone is all anyone would ever need to know about you to know you aren't worth debating.
 
As long as the West continues to send arms, the war will drag on. So by sending more arms, we are only delaying the inevitable and not changing the outcome. Plus, we are dragging ourselves and the Europeans down in the process.

The average person that supports this conflict is virtue signaling and the real people in DC, London and Brussels are trying to achieve some failed and flawed geostrategic objective.
And if we don't large amounts of innocent people will be killed or sent to camps as the reprisal for standing against Putin.

You know this, I know this. You are attempting to veil your stance as some humanitarian crusade. The people will suffer whether this ends tomorrow or two years from now.
 
She's a damn idiot fool. No better or worse than AOC, they are the same, do nothing, hyper partisan heifer, just window dressed a little different for consumption.
You're right about AOC. She's a hyper partisan just like the rest of the democrat party.

And how in the world is MTG hyper partisan? She's one of the few speaking out about our spending and support for the national socialists in Ukraine. You need to stop believing everything you hear on the news. It's causing you guys and gals to become too emotional.
 
You're right about AOC. She's a hyper partisan just like the rest of the democrat party.

And how in the world is MTG hyper partisan? She's one of the few speaking out about our spending and support for the national socialists in Ukraine. You need to stop believing everything you hear on the news. It's causing you guys and gals to become too emotional.
All I have to do is look at her Twitter feed and realize she’s bat **** crazy.
 
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Our government doesn't have a track record of long term planning so I highly doubt they are thinking 10 years out. More likely they aren't thinking past the next election.
I don't believe the government (people that supposedly run the country) are in control of our military. I think you have it backward.
 
You're right about AOC. She's a hyper partisan just like the rest of the democrat party.

And how in the world is MTG hyper partisan? She's one of the few speaking out about our spending and support for the national socialists in Ukraine. You need to stop believing everything you hear on the news. It's causing you guys and gals to become too emotional.
I don't watch the news. I know a fool when I see one, I'm not blinded by identity politics, i stopped swimming that sea long ago. You should try coming up for air!
 
I don't believe the government (people that supposedly run the country) are in control of our military. I think you have it backward.

If you are talking about the bureaucrats who actually run the government they too plan to the next election and no further when it comes to policy. The flag officers plan for their next star and what BOD seats they will be taking when they retire. So I don't know who you think is planning 10 years down the road.
 
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If you are talking about the bureaucrats who actually run the government they too plan to the next election and no further when it comes to policy. The flag officers plan for their next star and what BOD seats they will be taking when they retire. So I don't know who you think is planning 10 years down the road.
I'm planning lunch.
 
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