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Proxy war and economic war..yes. And it aint close to being over. Enjoy shelling out trillions at a minimum.
A "proxy war" would mean that the US convinced Ukraine to attack Russia on our behalf, but we all know that's not the case don't we?
Ukrainians are choosing to fight to defend themselves from Russia's invasion.
As for an "economic war", countries don't want to do business with other countries that invade their neighbors, that's just called 'FAFO'.
A "proxy war" would mean that the US convinced Ukraine to attack Russia on our behalf, but we all know that's not the case don't we?
Ukrainians are choosing to fight to defend themselves from Russia's invasion.
As for an "economic war", countries don't want to do business with other countries that invade their neighbors, that's just called 'FAFO'.
So our obligations were triggered in 2014 with the seizing of Crimea. Obama largely provided no useful aid to prevent further aggression. Trump did provide some lethal aid but again not in any amounts to act as a deterrent to further aggression. Biden picked up that same stance and did not act to prevent further aggression until after the invasion. There is plenty to point at across all three administrations if we want to start assigning blame.Proxy war and economic war..yes. And it aint close to being over. Enjoy shelling out trillions at a minimum.
Me thinks you dont even know what a proxy war is.
But the peon horde overwhelming attack has worked so well for them before. And it leverages their most bountiful natural resource, a bunch of stupid mindless Russians![]()
Russia has a little over 140M people. Ukraine has around 43M. So on a gross numbers ratio Russia is a little over 3:1. Largely most all of Ukraine is invested and committed repelling the invader while your average Russia isn’t willing to go die in Ukraine. So there really is no scenario where Russia can have their numbers attrition that has worked for them in the past which I believe is also what you’re saying too, I agree with that. If this war drags out too long I’d guess war weariness will set in on the western countries which is where I think the danger lies. So arm Ukraine to the teeth and end this quickly I’d say. And leave them well enough armed this time so that anytime the Russian military gets nears the Ukraine border again it’s destroyed before it can pull this crap again.To a point that's going to work in Ukraine and it worked in the past for them, but you know, they don't really have the numbers they had in WW 2 and afterwards. Before WW 2 they could draw from Ukraine, Georgia and all the "stans" in Central Asia, all of which were under the Soviet control. After WW 2 they had the Warsaw Pact, some of whom were relatively enthusiastic allies. In the 80's we were told the Soviet Union was 425 million and back then we were around 250 million. Now the pure Russian population is 145 million and we are 350 million. The "stans" recently told Putin to get lost when he asked for troops.
I just hope that Chinese military strategy and tactics were taught to them from Soviet/ Russian advisors.
Before long, Russia might just try this strategy. They would probably fare about as well.
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So our obligations were triggered in 2014 with the seizing of Crimea. Obama largely provided no useful aid to prevent further aggression. Trump did provide some lethal aid but again not in any amounts to act as a deterrent to further aggression. Biden picked up that same stance and did not act to prevent further aggression until after the invasion. There is plenty to point at across all three administrations if we want to start assigning blame.
Lol, please....please do explain to use what a "proxy war" is.
Is the war in Ukraine a proxy conflict? | Feature from King's College London
Sorry man but there is no compelling evidence that the bald dwarf was afraid to invade on Trump’s watch. What is clear is neither Obama, Trump, nor Biden acted in any meaningful manner to assist Ukraine in defending their sovereignty. If we are compelled to do so now then we were compelled to do so in 2014.As Breathe said..with Trump..the world was a much more peaceful place. Now we have Iran, NK, CCP, Russia, all ramping up wars and rumors of wars.
So yea..I blame this cuck administration. They are happening on HIS watch.
And no I do not enjoy this war as many seem..Pols start wars and the people have to fight them.
This is on Putin and not a righteous war on his part..but just see too much glee in the deaths of a soldier that probably doesn't want to be there himself..just like us in Vietnam, Iraq,, etc.
And knowing the ineptitude of the USG and particularly this admin, who the heck knows where we are headed other than maybe nuclear rain. And absolutely no interest to our own national sovereignty.
And I get your point..supply them weapons for self defense...but once committed to that you are all in in any rebuild.
And this Putin death nap takes no look into the future of what comes next. All this Russia Russia Russia by the libs scream political as witnessed by the past 5 years. The same liberal that scream at Israel self defense and even US past conflicts.
Now we have some calling for the end of Putin and a dirt nap..That doesn't sound like US and Ukrainian interests are aligned.
Amazing watching neocons. liberals all in step.
Bigger Marco national concerns IMO.
Boy you really had to reach for an article that cannot even explain it in its text.
What is a proxy war?
One of the problems with studies of proxy warfare is that there is no agreed definition. That includes any consensus on whether a proxy war relationship can only involve states (sponsors) supporting non-state proxies, or whether state actors can themselves be proxies of other states or non-state groups.
Sorry man but there is no compelling evidence that the bald dwarf was afraid to invade on Trump’s watch. What is clear is neither Obama, Trump, nor Biden acted in any meaningful manner to assist Ukraine in defending their sovereignty. If we are compelled to do so now then we were compelled to do so in 2014.
Likewise there is no compelling evidence that Trump was Putin’s biatch which is the usual counter. I’ve dropped a Foreign Policy article myself comparing the policy stance of Obama Vs Trump on Russia and Trump had a stronger stance.
And count me in the group wanting to see Putin gone. And Prigozhin and Kadyrov also. I really don’t see any scenario Putin survives this unless he takes Kyiv. I don’t see that happening. And Russian culture isn’t historically kind on leaders they perceive as weak or losers.
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit I take it?
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Ok we disagree again I guess. Remember correlation (or lack there of here) does not imply causation. Don’t get me wrong I’d like to have damn near anyone in the WH now over Puddinhead but that’s because I view him as over all incompetent. Except for his VP of course that’s a downgrade.I agree to a pint..but to the bolded..Yes there is. The best evidence EVER..He DIDNT
I do agree it’s a proxy war largely. Our arms and economic might squared offer against Russia without any U.S. service member in harms way. And it’s beautiful just like that.Listen dude..we can post Google FU all day long.
This is a proxy War and dont need Kings College to tell me if it is or isn't.