War in Ukraine

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whodeycin85 said:
Yes. Moving money obtained illegally thru of shore accounts and ir ligetimate buinsess... so a country like Ukraine buying influence of a high ranking politician...then that politician investing in FTX which then contributed that money back to the candidate political campaign...that about cover it is
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Conveniently leaving out the whole "concealing the origin of" in the definition, so let me see if I understand your theory.

You believe that US politicians, sent aid money to Ukraine, so that Ukraine could them send that money to FTX, and then SBF would them donate money to those politician's election campaigns?

For the sake of argument, we'll also pretend that SBF didn't make those political donations with stolen customer funds from Alameda Research.

Why would anyone attempting to conceal a money source, concoct such an elaborate plot, that has a paper trail, 10 miles long?
 
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hog88 said:
Yep, I’m a coward. How many deployments did you do?

And how many days on the line has Zelensky spent?
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Lol, I'm not the one calling into question the bravery man whose spent nearly 2 years leading his country through a war, being a target every day since the beginning.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Lol, I'm not the one calling into question the bravery man whose spent nearly 2 years leading his country through a war, being a target every day since the beginning.
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I haven’t questioned his bravery but what has he done to demonstrate his bravery. He hasn’t put his ass in the grass and stood a watch, it doesn’t take much courage to stick around behind the lines and run to a bunker every time the steel starts falling.

And you called me a coward so it’s fair that I get your qualifications to make such an assessment of me.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Conveniently leaving out the whole "concealing the origin of" in the definition, so let me see if I understand your theory.

You believe that US politicians, sent aid money to Ukraine, so that Ukraine could them send that money to FTX, and then SBF would them donate money to those politician's election campaigns?

For the sake of argument, we'll also pretend that SBF didn't make those political donations with stolen customer funds from Alameda Research.

Why would anyone attempting to conceal a money source, concoct such an elaborate plot, that has a paper trail, 10 miles long?
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2 things...1. Fact checkers are a joke and the 2nd most biased form of reporting...see covid and russia hoax for proof. Reliance on them is not a solid start. 2. It not the money currently givin in aid to Ukraine...its prior.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Some real pathetic machismo in here. Some of yall are too emotionally invested in Ukraine for some bizarre reason.
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They’re emotionally invested in Ukraine because their sense of self revolves around their political party. If the Rs were in power and following the exact same policies they would be opposed but since this administration kneels to Zelensky they are all to willingly to get on their knees.
 
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hog88 said:
I haven’t questioned his bravery but what has he done to demonstrate his bravery. He hasn’t put his ass in the grass and stood a watch, it doesn’t take much courage to stick around behind the lines and run to a bunker every time the steel starts falling.

And you called me a coward so it’s fair that I get your qualifications to make such an assessment of me.
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I can never tell if you are being disingenuous or willfully ignorant.


Considering your earlier statement that "he'd bolt as soon as the money ran out", yes it seems like you are projecting what you would do onto him, considering he's still in Kyiv in spite of Russia attempting to kill him on numerous occasions, 2 years after he was offered an evacuation ride.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
2 things...1. Fact checkers are a joke and the 2nd most biased form of reporting...see covid and russia hoax for proof. Reliance on them is not a solid start. 2. It not the money currently givin in aid to Ukraine...its prior.
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You do know that the particular facts being checked, are in the indictment of SBF, who was subsequently found guilty, based on evidence presented in the trial, right?

You're more than welcome to provide your "alternative truth" but you're going to need to back it up with evidence.

So again, why would anyone, beyond a comic book villain, attempt such an elaborate scheme, that in no way, would hide the origins of said funds, where they actually funneled from the US, to Ukraine, to FTX/Alameda Research, to SBF, to politician's election campaigns?
 
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hog88 said:
They’re emotionally invested in Ukraine because their sense of self revolves around their political party. If the Rs were in power and following the exact same policies they would be opposed but since this administration kneels to Zelensky they are all to willingly to get on their knees.
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Orangeburst said:
Some real pathetic machismo in here. Some of yall are too emotionally invested in Ukraine for some bizarre reason.
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The enemy of our enemy is our friend, it's really not that hard to figure out.

Watching you MAGA goofs get bent out of shape over ukraine corruption is rich given the Trump crime syndicates grift here in America. I hear that the US has committed a few more HIMARS to Ukraine, I hope that doesn't mean that you'll have to eat dinner at the food kitchen this evening.
 
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BeardedVol said:
I can never tell if you are being disingenuous or willfully ignorant.


Considering your earlier statement that "he'd bolt as soon as the money ran out", yes it seems like you are projecting what you would do onto him, considering he's still in Kyiv in spite of Russia attempting to kill him on numerous occasions, 2 years after he was offered an evacuation ride.
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Is both an option?
 
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BeardedVol said:
I can never tell if you are being disingenuous or willfully ignorant.


Considering your earlier statement that "he'd bolt as soon as the money ran out", yes it seems like you are projecting what you would do onto him, considering he's still in Kyiv in spite of Russia attempting to kill him on numerous occasions, 2 years after he was offered an evacuation ride.
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Sure, I’m going to take his word that he’s survived a dozen assassination attempts. That’s about as believable as Biden getting arrested trying to visit Mandela or Hillary getting off the plane under sniper fire.

You’re just willfully gullible.
 
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Septic said:
The enemy of our enemy is our friend, it's really not that hard to figure out.

Watching you MAGA goofs get bent out of shape over ukraine corruption is rich given the Trump crime syndicates grift here in America. I hear that the US has committed a few more HIMARS to Ukraine, I hope that doesn't mean that you'll have to eat dinner at the food kitchen this evening.
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Sorry but you whiffed again. IDGAF about Ukrainian corruption outside of we shouldn’t be sending our money to a corrupt country.

I get it though and understand why you are so adamant in your support.
 
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hog88 said:
Sorry but you whiffed again. IDGAF about Ukrainian corruption outside of we shouldn’t be sending our money to a corrupt country.

I get it though and understand why you are so adamant in your support.
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Clearly you don't get it. For a guy who doesn't GAF, you sure cry about it a lot.
 
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Septic said:
Your projection is rivaled only by your ability to deflect.
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I get the fact that you’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer and pretty bitter about that but it’s you that are projecting. You only support our open checkbook because your party is in power (and stop the lies that you’re not a Dem). Be who you are and let your Dem freak flag fly, be a man and come out of the closet.

I’ve said from the beginning that I hope Ukraine kicks Russia’s ass, I just don’t believe we should be funding it. Let the other European countries pay for it, they’ve been freeloading off of us since the 40s.
 
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hog88 said:
I get the fact that you’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer and pretty bitter about that but it’s you that are projecting. You only support our open checkbook because your party is in power (and stop the lies that you’re not a Dem). Be who you are and let your Dem freak flag fly, be a man and come out of the closet.

I’ve said from the beginning that I hope Ukraine kicks Russia’s ass, I just don’t believe we should be funding it. Let the other European countries pay for it, they’ve been freeloading off of us since the 40s.
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Your first paragraph are the words of a child lashing out. Grow up little fella, using deflection to argue you aren't deflecting isn't the big brain move you think it is.

Regarding your second, nah. You don't want that, why front? Hiding behind what you perceive is fiscal responsibility is dumb af. Any rational adult doing the math knows this proxy war is a damn bargain for the U.S.

It's not coincidence you keeping bringing up partisanship being the motivating factor in support. That's your consciousness, projecting.
 
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Septic said:
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Your first paragraph are the words of a child lashing out. Grow up little fella, using deflection to argue you aren't deflecting isn't the big brain move you think it is.

Regarding your second, nah. You don't want that, why front? Hiding behind what you perceive is fiscal responsibility is dumb af. Any rational adult doing the math knows this proxy war is a damn bargain for the U.S.

It's not coincidence you keeping bringing up partisanship being the motivating factor in support. That's your consciousness, projecting.
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I used to believe that you were just a troll and and I wrong about that. Turns out you are just a simple minded fool.
 
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hog88 said:
I used to believe that you were just a troll and and I wrong about that. Turns out you are just a simple minded fool.
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Personal insults are the last bastion of a failed argument.

Truthfully, it's not surprising to see you wind up here. Sad.
 
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