War in Ukraine

[MontyPython]

So just to be clear... Russia is progessing? Russia is advancing, right?

Russia *was* definitely advancing on Kharkiv. Now it would appear they are no longer advancing.

The US and our allies won't allow Russia to get within tube artillery range of Kharkiv. As such, we'll provide them with what they need to prevent this and, likely, push the Russians back some.

The overarching political question that remains unanswered is whether we want Ukraine to actually win this war, or whether we're satisfied with a drawn-out war of attrition where Russia is slowly bled dry.

 

[KB5252]

If it was held at gun point, where is the revolution and protests from the Crimean citizens? Because Russia is losing, right???

No, Russia has been advancing for a few months, maybe more, after a year or more of stalemate. Those advances seem to be bogging down some, I've not seen enough reporting to determine exactly why that is though.

The revolution? Those that could leave have, those that aren't able to are keeping their heads low because they know what happens to political opponents in Russia, just imagine what happens to you in a war zone!

Playing dumb to support Russia is about the most pathetic example of "simping" imaginable.

 

[MontyPython]

New Russian Chicken-Coop-Road-Warrior-Death-Trap-Mobile version 1.2

These guys. Would be laughable if they weren't all gonna die.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

 

[MontyPython]

Ukrainian Bradley v. 2 Russian BTRs...

Wonder who wins the fight. Also wonder what that TOW missile looks like coming straight at you.

WARNING: CONTAINS GRAPHIC MATERIAL SOME PEOPLE PROBABLY FIND OFFENSIVE. I.E. DON'T WANNA SEE DEATH, DON'T WATCH.



This guy. Should have stayed in bed, bro.

Reminds me of @volgr every time he posts here.

 

[LSU-SIU]

No, Russia has been advancing for a few months, maybe more, after a year or more of stalemate. Those advances seem to be bogging down some, I've not seen enough reporting to determine exactly why that is though.

The revolution? Those that could leave have, those that aren't able to are keeping their heads low because they know what happens to political opponents in Russia, just imagine what happens to you in a war zone!

Playing dumb to support Russia is about the most pathetic example of "simping" imaginable.

I would say anyone telling me as an American I should be support the Ukraine with my money is the biggest traitor, as if you believe the narrative we were all feed i.e. lie. The Ukraine is our enemy as well. That is what I was told my whole life either directly or indirectly, when did the Ukraine become my buddy?

Why exactly is the Ukraine my friend but not Russia? I would think it would be the opposite as the Ukraine was clearly in Jello Man's pocket.

The whole time I've been alive the narrative is - Russia is my enemy. Why?

In the meantime, my own government with politicians and with the help of the UK government conspired to form a lie i.e. Russia gate which to this date has not been addressed in any meaningful way.

My take is Russia has a valid point, although I think its okay to disagree with that point. But on the flip side, its not really our business, us meddling in the business actually helps support the idea that the point is valid.

Why exactly should I care if Russia destroys it all?

 

[PKT_VOL]

Those advances seem to be bogging down some, I've not seen enough reporting to determine exactly why that is though.

Essentially, Russia opened another front. Ukraine did not build fortifications within artillery range of the border for obvious reasons. This created a no-man's land. When Russia opened up their new front, their offensive quickly took over no-man's land and halted once they reached the Ukrainian fortifications built outside of artillery range. Add in new a supply of Western weapons and the outcome quickly became bleak for the Russians.

 

[PKT_VOL]

I would say anyone telling me as an American I should be support the Ukraine with my money is the biggest traitor, as if you believe the narrative we were all feed i.e. lie. The Ukraine is our enemy as well. That is what I was told my whole life either directly or indirectly, when did the Ukraine become my buddy?

Why exactly is the Ukraine my friend but not Russia? I would think it would be the opposite as the Ukraine was clearly in Jello Man's pocket.

The whole time I've been alive the narrative is - Russia is my enemy. Why?

In the meantime, my own government with politicians and with the help of the UK government conspired to form a lie i.e. Russia gate which to this date has not been addressed in any meaningful way.

My take is Russia has a valid point, although I think its okay to disagree with that point. But on the flip side, its not really our business, us meddling in the business actually helps support the idea that the point is valid.

Why exactly should I care if Russia destroys it all?

Questioning our resources going to Ukraine is legitimate.

Thinking Russia will ever view you as anything other than their arch enemy makes you a "useful idiot" in their eyes.

 

[KB5252]

I would say anyone telling me as an American I should be support the Ukraine with my money is the biggest traitor, as if you believe the narrative we were all feed i.e. lie. The Ukraine is our enemy as well. That is what I was told my whole life either directly or indirectly, when did the Ukraine become my buddy?

Why exactly is the Ukraine my friend but not Russia? I would think it would be the opposite as the Ukraine was clearly in Jello Man's pocket.

The whole time I've been alive the narrative is - Russia is my enemy. Why?

In the meantime, my own government with politicians and with the help of the UK government conspired to form a lie i.e. Russia gate which to this date has not been addressed in any meaningful way.

My take is Russia has a valid point, although I think its okay to disagree with that point. But on the flip side, its not really our business, us meddling in the business actually helps support the idea that the point is valid.

Why exactly should I care if Russia destroys it all?

I don't support Ukraine beyond their sovereign rights as a nation. I didn't support Ukraine until Russia invaded them for Putin's Tsarist ambitions of reuniting his empire. And Russia was an ally in many instances until these ambitions were acted on and they started invading neighbors. I think you are being a little hyperbolic.

Ukraine was never "always my enemy" they were a vassal of Russia who had been both an ally and an enemy through history.


I get it, you worship Trump's feet. I thought Trump was the better of two very bad choices in the last two election cycles......... That doesn't mean I want him near the office though...... Let that sink in, that's how bad the choices are.

Why should you care if Russia destroys Ukraine? Because that isn't the end game, and it's not an isolated conflict. In case you haven't noticed the world is already at war. Sitting this one out doesn't serve any interests. I think I understand exactly what your interests aren't though.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I don't support Ukraine beyond their sovereign rights as a nation. I didn't support Ukraine until Russia invaded them for Putin's Tsarist ambitions of reuniting his empire. And Russia was an ally in many instances until these ambitions were acted on and they started invading neighbors. I think you are being a little hyperbolic.

Ukraine was never "always my enemy" they were a vassal of Russia who had been both an ally and an enemy through history.


I get it, you worship Trump's feet. I thought Trump was the better of two very bad choices in the last two election cycles......... That doesn't mean I want him near the office though...... Let that sink in, that's how bad the choices are.

Why should you care if Russia destroys Ukraine? Because that isn't the end game, and it's not an isolated conflict. In case you haven't noticed the world is already at war. Sitting this one out doesn't serve any interests. I think I understand exactly what your interests aren't though.

Now there were a vassal of Russia through magic. Why was Russia my enemy? Or is my enemy? Countries invade countries all the time, just like the United States does.

They are no longer a sovereign country which is why they are throwing people into vans. The United States told them what to do.

I get it, you worship Trump's feet.

I don't even vote. This country is toast.

Why should you care if Russia destroys Ukraine? Because that isn't the end game, and it's not an isolated conflict. In case you haven't noticed the world is already at war. Sitting this one out doesn't serve any interests. I think I understand exactly what your interests aren't though.

Again, why do I care if Russia destroys the whole thing. You might be right the world might be at war, but who is at the center of all that?

Sitting this one out doesn't serve any interests

So.... you can sign up if you feel that way. You don't have to sit it out.

Join the Brave

International Legion for the Defence of Ukraine formed by Presidential decree right after the outbreak of full-scale russian invasion, the Legion has taken part in the majority of the crucial campaigns and battles of the war. The International Legion consists of infantry and special task...

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You can sign up or not but you haven't told me why Russia is my enemy, nor has been in my lifetime. Why should I sign up? Or sign my money for that?

Everyone throughout history has used the words democracy, freedom, sovereignty, etc, so what?

I've got a feeling Ukraine is going to continue to get a dose of democracy on a daily basis. The culture exchange seems to be going rather well.

XERXES
Brave words. Spartan words. I admire you. The strength and honor of your soldiers, their fierce devotion. There is much our cultures could share.

LEONIDAS
Haven't you noticed we have been sharing our culture with you all morning?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I would say anyone telling me as an American I should be support the Ukraine with my money is the biggest traitor, as if you believe the narrative we were all feed i.e. lie. The Ukraine is our enemy as well. That is what I was told my whole life either directly or indirectly, when did the Ukraine become my buddy?

Why exactly is the Ukraine my friend but not Russia? I would think it would be the opposite as the Ukraine was clearly in Jello Man's pocket.

The whole time I've been alive the narrative is - Russia is my enemy. Why?

In the meantime, my own government with politicians and with the help of the UK government conspired to form a lie i.e. Russia gate which to this date has not been addressed in any meaningful way.

My take is Russia has a valid point, although I think its okay to disagree with that point. But on the flip side, its not really our business, us meddling in the business actually helps support the idea that the point is valid.

Why exactly should I care if Russia destroys it all?

You know what, why is it that Russia has been on our side in the majority of wars in USA history but yet are our enemies, but the Redcoat British are our allies?

 

[hog88]

You know what, why i it that Russia has been on our side in the majority of wars in USA history but yet are our enemies, but the Redcoat British are our allies?

1 war they were on our side. They quit WW1 before we entered.

 

[BeardedVol]

You know what, why i it that Russia has been on our side in the majority of wars in USA history but yet are our enemies, but the Redcoat British are our allies?

Lol, Russia allied with the Nazis to invade Poland and kick off World War 2, literally flew migs against us in Korea, shot down our planes in Vietnam.

Russia is our enemy by their actions and their own admission.

 

[LSU-SIU]

You know what, why i it that Russia has been on our side in the majority of wars in USA history but yet are our enemies, but the Redcoat British are our allies?

The simple answer is the Ukraine became our friend when the CIA went in. Russia is our enemy because "they" say so.

Chicken **** internet warriors like to talk about the "we" but don't actually do anything. They are completely evil people.

 

[BeardedVol]

The simple answer is the Ukraine became our friend when the CIA went in. Russia is our enemy because "they" say so.

Chicken **** internet warriors like to talk about the "we" but don't actually do anything.

Lol CIA...

 

[LSU-SIU]

1 war they were on our side. They quit WW1 before we entered.

I think the issue is, Russia really has never done much of anything to us yet for the greater part of a few generations they are the baddies. Why? Americans can't even point out the Ukraine on a map, exactly when did they become the good guys? Why do I or any American really care if they get destroyed?

I have no idea why North Vietnam was our enemy, obviously South Vietnam wanted that form of government. Today we have normal relations. Why? What changed? Nothing really. Its called brainwashing, if we say it enough... the hope the masses believe it.


I got no real problem with Russia, and nobody really provides anything of real substance.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

1 war they were on our side. They quit WW1 before we entered.

WTF??? You are a total clown. One war? You are historically ignorant or just a liar.

Revolutionary War, Civil War, Boxer Rebellion, WWI and WWII...

 

[hog88]

WTF??? You are a total clown. One war? You are historically ignorant or just a liar.

Revolutionary War, Civil War, Boxer Rebellion, WWI and WWII...

Are you serious?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Kalibrated

🇺🇸🇺🇦 The "Abrams" is actually pretty sh*t! - Ukrainian soldiers. "Its armor is not sufficient for this era." "Once we fired 17 rounds into a house and it was still standing." 🔴 @DDGeopolitics

t.me

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Are you serious?

Yes, very serious. Those are the facts. You are a clown if you do not know that. And that isn't any CRT/DEI nonsense. It is basic US history.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Slavyangrad

The commander of the Achilles battalion of the 92nd brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Yuriy Fedorenko, said that in Ukraine it is necessary to make all women liable for military service from the age of 18, on an equal basis with male citizens In addition, according to him, the minimum...

t.me

 

[hog88]

Yes, very serious. Those are the facts. You are a clown if you do not know that. And that isn't any CRT/DEI nonsense. It is basic US history.

You’re the clown to even suggest Russia/USSR allied with us in our revolution. They also played no part in the civil war, did nothing during the boxer rebellion and had quit, tucked tail and went home before we entered WW1

 

[KB5252]

Now there were a vassal of Russia through magic. Why was Russia my enemy? Or is my enemy? Countries invade countries all the time, just like the United States does.

They are no longer a sovereign country which is why they are throwing people into vans. The United States told them what to do.



I don't even vote. This country is toast.



Again, why do I care if Russia destroys the whole thing. You might be right the world might be at war, but who is at the center of all that?



So.... you can sign up if you feel that way. You don't have to sit it out.

Join the Brave

International Legion for the Defence of Ukraine formed by Presidential decree right after the outbreak of full-scale russian invasion, the Legion has taken part in the majority of the crucial campaigns and battles of the war. The International Legion consists of infantry and special task...

ildu.com.ua

You can sign up or not but you haven't told me why Russia is my enemy, nor has been in my lifetime. Why should I sign up? Or sign my money for that?

Everyone throughout history has used the words democracy, freedom, sovereignty, etc, so what?

I've got a feeling Ukraine is going to continue to get a dose of democracy on a daily basis. The culture exchange seems to be going rather well.

Because they are working against our interests. Unless your interests are those of China, Iran, Russia and North Korea. They all have some very important things in common that should worry everyone and make them want to work against them having greater control in our world

Who cares whether or not you vote. You can vote with your opinion and that opinion says it all.

 

[TVOLS]

 

[LSU-SIU]

Because they are working against our interests. Unless your interests are those of China, Iran, Russia and North Korea. They all have some very important things in common that should worry everyone and make them want to work against them having greater control in our world

Who cares whether or not you vote. You can vote with your opinion and that opinion says it all.

They're not working for my interests. I'm not an evil neocon.

They all have some very important things in common that should worry everyone and make them want to work against them having greater control in our world

Shouldn't they be worried about us as we're the ones in the center of all these conflicts? Your whole argument can be said of every country in the world in regards to the U.S. Which is what the evil neocons want.

Yeah, my opinion does say it all but I don't vote for Trump or anyone else. I mean do you vote for pedo ice cream man? You say you want a good discussion yet you bring up things that have nothing to do with the discussion.

Regardless, you can sign up today to promote and support your own interests. They're not my interests. If you really feel like this, you should join up and really prove it.

Russia could destroy all of the Ukraine yet you really haven't come up with any real reason why Americans should care, the United States has been killing people all over the world for no real reason. Why exactly do I give a **** about these stupid Ukrainians?

Let me get this right, we get a country into a fight than I'm support to care about them after they're destroyed? The U.S. only care about them because they are fighting them, its the equivalent of Michael Vick putting pit bulls into a cage to fight. Michael Vick didn't care about the dogs. What you are describing as far as I am concern is a lack of humanity i.e. evil.