War in Ukraine

[Orange.]

Whatever happened to peace Democrats?

Get GatorNeoCon to play you the song. He sings it in his car.

All we are saying
is ____ _____ _ ______.

 

[Volnanza]

It's just awful that our leaders didn't have the sense of my H.S. geography teacher. Way back when, we had a discussion about Crimea. He said the Russians (USSR) would fight to keep it at all costs because it was home to the ONLY warm water port they had. Without it, they would become a land locked nation if the northern ports froze. You can't be a Superpower if you can't rely on your navy. And it's all because of Geography.

 

[LSU-SIU]

It's just awful that our leaders didn't have the sense of my H.S. geography teacher. Way back when, we had a discussion about Crimea. He said the Russians (USSR) would fight to keep it at all costs because it was home to the ONLY warm water port they had. Without it, they would become a land locked nation if the northern ports froze. You can't be a Superpower if you can't rely on your navy. And it's all because of Geography.

I don't believe you.

Did you have discussions about how the Cia works?

 

[BeardedVol]

It's not rational for them to stop fighting before the talks advance. I don't think you're very realistic or experienced in negotiation. Especially when they can count on people like you to undercut an American proposal and try to cut their antagonist off at the knees. Putin wants you do his dirty work for him and weaken the US bargaining position. And did Ukraine declare a ceasefire?

It has nothing to do with me believing anyone.

Your whole outlook, obsession, anger, and distorted view of the world is because you still believe that false RussiaGate conspiracy theory and disinformation campaign. You're still acting it out in your daily life.

That was all a lie, bruh. It was an op. A treasonous op. You're whole perspective is based on a lie.


Your RussiaGate conspiracy again. You don't know what he wants. The lying election op told what he wants.

It's extremely unlikely that bruh wants to fight us. So stop panicking everyday!

If Putin won't make a deal because he "has zero desire for peace," as you say, then you have nothing to worry about as a war-loving and expenditure-happy neocon. (Well, nuclear war, maybe, but I'm not sure you care about that.)

And if Putin makes and breaks a deal, then you'll also get your way.

So don't be so negative. Conspiracy theory-induced outrage is a helluva drug. Chillax.

What part of Russia being the invader, and Ukraine the victim don't not understand?

If Putin gave two sh!it's about the Buryats, convicts and North Koreans that he sends to their death every day, all he'd have is to do is declare a unilateral ceasefire.

He's doesn't, and Trump is either complicit in aiding Putin take Ukraine, or he's too stupid or dementia-addled to be in control of the country.

As U.S. and Putin negotiate, intel shows he's not interested 'in a real peace deal,' sources say

Intelligence from the U.S. and close allies shows Russian President Vladimir Putin still wants to control all of Ukraine, sources said.

www.yahoo.com

 

[BeardedVol]

It's not rational for them to stop fighting before the talks advance. I don't think you're very realistic or experienced in negotiation. Especially when they can count on people like you to undercut an American proposal and try to cut their antagonist off at the knees. Putin wants you do his dirty work for him and weaken the US bargaining position. And did Ukraine declare a ceasefire?

It has nothing to do with me believing anyone.

Your whole outlook, obsession, anger, and distorted view of the world is because you still believe that false RussiaGate conspiracy theory and disinformation campaign. You're still acting it out in your daily life.

That was all a lie, bruh. It was an op. A treasonous op. You're whole perspective is based on a lie.


Your RussiaGate conspiracy again. You don't know what he wants. The lying election op told what he wants.

It's extremely unlikely that bruh wants to fight us. So stop panicking everyday!

If Putin won't make a deal because he "has zero desire for peace," as you say, then you have nothing to worry about as a war-loving and expenditure-happy neocon. (Well, nuclear war, maybe, but I'm not sure you care about that.)

And if Putin makes and breaks a deal, then you'll also get your way.

So don't be so negative. Conspiracy theory-induced outrage is a helluva drug. Chillax.

What part of Russia being the invader, and Ukraine the victim do you not understand?

If Putin gave two sh!it's about the Buryats, convicts and North Koreans that he sends to their death every day, all he'd have is to do is declare a unilateral ceasefire.

He's doesn't, and Trump is either complicit in aiding Putin take Ukraine, or he's too stupid or dementia-addled to be in control of the country.

As U.S. and Putin negotiate, intel shows he's not interested 'in a real peace deal,' sources say

Intelligence from the U.S. and close allies shows Russian President Vladimir Putin still wants to control all of Ukraine, sources said.

www.yahoo.com

 

[BeardedVol]

It's just awful that our leaders didn't have the sense of my H.S. geography teacher. Way back when, we had a discussion about Crimea. He said the Russians (USSR) would fight to keep it at all costs because it was home to the ONLY warm water port they had. Without it, they would become a land locked nation if the northern ports froze. You can't be a Superpower if you can't rely on your navy. And it's all because of Geography.

Hate to break it to you, but your geography teacher was a moron.

 

[Orange.]

What part of Russia being the invader, and Ukraine the victim don't not understand?

If Putin gave two sh!it's about the Buryats, convicts and North Koreans that he sends to their death every day, all he'd have is to do is declare a unilateral ceasefire.

He's doesn't, and Trump is either complicit in aiding Putin take Ukraine, or he's too stupid or dementia-addled to be in control of the country.

As U.S. and Putin negotiate, intel shows he's not interested 'in a real peace deal,' sources say

Intelligence from the U.S. and close allies shows Russian President Vladimir Putin still wants to control all of Ukraine, sources said.

www.yahoo.com

Don't be so gullible. NBC News is the brand that the pathological liar Tom Brokaw built.

The writer may as easily have invented the quotes. They are all anonymous. And notice they simply continue the RussiaGate/dossier line. They think you have a Pavlovian response to it. Apparently you do.

But if the writer didn't make up the quotes, then you are saying that several people leaked real or fabricated classified files for the purpose of sabotaging an ongoing negotiation by a sitting US President. Sounds kinda insurrection-y.

 

[Orange.]

Oh boy, @BeardedWarMonger is next going to post all the most damning tweets about the Benghazi embassy episode where Americans were left to die and weapons left to be taken by terrorists. Vietnam, Afghanistan, treatment of American Iraq vets, the billion in gold, cash, and the plutonium shipments to Iran to fund terrorists and create an existential threat.

He's an equal opportunity curmudgeon, this Beard. You can believe it. When he sees a reason that anyone can be distrusted, he trumpets it. No cherry-picking with this Bearded internet genius!

Post all the CIA whistleblower Snowden and Assange files about how comprehensive domestic spying is the new American normal. So we can decide if anyone else could just as easily play your same war-mongering game about motives and past acts that might lend themselves to distrust. Be thorough, my man!

Or maybe, better, knock off the dramatic war mongering. Biden couldn't stop lying about his son's laptop. Neither could NBC. Why should anyone trust America? If what you're doing with your little tweet is determinative. Your "rule" cuts both ways.

I'm a patriot, Beard. Doesn't make me stupid. Your righteous indignation is killing me, Smalls.

 

[Orange.]

Or what about this classic from the 2014 coup in Ukraine. Can Europe ever trust us again? Not according to your feigned principles. Negotiations happen in the real world.



Quit treating people like they're stupid, Beard.

 

[BeardedVol]

Or what about this classic from the 2014 coup in Ukraine. Can Europe ever trust us again?

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Quit treating people like they're stupid, Beard.

Diplomats talking about a deal that Yanukovych tried to make days earlier that the opposition turned down, shocking I tell you, shocking.

Ukraine’s embattled president offers PM post to opposition

Protesters to be considered ‘extremists’ if they refuse to leave central Kiev

www.irishtimes.com

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

 

[lawgator1]

It's not rational for them to stop fighting before the talks advance. I don't think you're very realistic or experienced in negotiation. Especially when they can count on people like you to undercut an American proposal on the home front. Putin wants you to weaken the US bargaining position. And did Ukraine declare a ceasefire?

It has nothing to do with me believing anyone.

Your whole outlook, obsession, anger, and distorted view of the world is because you still believe that false RussiaGate conspiracy theory and disinformation campaign. You're still acting it out in your daily life.

That was all a lie, bruh. It was an op. A treasonous op. You're whole perspective is based on a lie. And btw that is good news.


Your RussiaGate conspiracy again. You don't know what he wants. The lying election op told what he wants.

It's extremely unlikely that bruh wants to fight us. So stop panicking!

If Putin won't make a deal because he "has zero desire for peace," as you say, then you have nothing to worry about as a war-loving and expenditure-happy neocon.

(Well, nuclear war, maybe, but I'm not sure you care about that.)

And if Putin makes and breaks a deal, then you'll also get your way.

So don't be so negative. Programmed fear and outrage is a helluva drug.

It doesnt have to be corruption. It can simply be that part of Trump's personality disorder causes him to a) crave the approval of strong and influential people, and b) double down and resist when he is called out for it by seeking even more to please the object of his desire for approval.

Regardless of the reason, the fact is that Trump is acting super recklessly and very risky.

 

[Orange.]

Diplomats talking about a deal that Yanukovych tried to make days earlier that the opposition turned down, shocking I tell you, shocking.

Ukraine’s embattled president offers PM post to opposition

Protesters to be considered ‘extremists’ if they refuse to leave central Kiev

www.irishtimes.com

No, Europe was negotiating with both parties (Ukraine and Russia) at the time. It means, (behind their backs): F our NATO allies, we're installing who we want. It's our op. It's our coup.

February 14. The EU is divided and to some extent hesitant about picking a fight with Moscow. It certainly cannot win a short-term battle for Ukraine's affections with Moscow - it just does not have the cash inducements available.

No country in the world meets your purity test, bruh. You're trying to play people.

 

[bamawriter]

But Putin said that Zelensky is a nazi. How many different ideologies can one man hold?

 

[Orange.]

You think your "hard," but you're not realistic enough to understand the world, @BeardedVol.

 

[BeardedVol]

No, Europe was negotiating with both parties (Ukraine and Russia) at the time. It means, (behind their backs): F our NATO allies, we're installing who we want. It's our op. It's our coup.


No country in the world meets your purity test, bruh. You're trying to play people.

LOL a "coup" that ended in an election, where none of the people mentioned in Nuland's "damning" call, even ran.

 

[Orange.]

It doesnt have to be corruption. It can simply be that part of Trump's personality disorder causes him to a) crave the approval of strong and influential people, and b) double down and resist when he is called out for it by seeking even more to please the object of his desire for approval.

Regardless of the reason, the fact is that Trump is acting super recklessly and very risky.

It's not risky at all. It's a negotiation. It's naive to literalize and moralize about every public word in the situation. On either side. Why didn't you call Zelensky reckless for his reckless statements?

Your psychologizing is lame. Your still hindered by your belief in the disproven RussiaGate/dossier misinformation campaign. It formed your views. It was a lie.

 

[LSU-SIU]

It doesnt have to be corruption. It can simply be that part of Trump's personality disorder causes him to a) crave the approval of strong and influential people, and b) double down and resist when he is called out for it by seeking even more to please the object of his desire for approval.

Regardless of the reason, the fact is that Trump is acting super recklessly and very risky.

That happened as a result of the people you voted for, which is why you don't take personal responsibility and lied about it.

Not sure what is risky, Biden was going to pull out of the Ukraine and Europe was going to fail, see my previous comments from 2022.

 

[lawgator1]

It's not risky at all. It's a negotiation. It's naive to literalize and moralize about every public word in the situation. On either side. Why didn't you call Zelensky reckless for his reckless statements?

Your psychologizing is lame. Your still hindered by your belief in the disproven RussiaGate/dossier misinformation campaign. It formed your views. It was a lie.

Trump says Ukraine started the war and that they better get in line or will lose their country. When it is pointed out that such comments are very irresponsible, what does he do?

Makes the same comments, five times worse. He can't stand it when people point out he's wrong. He loses his sh!t completely and he makes it worse.

We've seen this a thousand times with him and it's only now that people are figuring it out? He's a menace. He's reckless. He's dangerous.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

But Putin said that Zelensky is a nazi. How many different ideologies can one man hold?

He’s also a supreme beggar.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Trump says Ukraine started the war and that they better get in line or will lose their country. When it is pointed out that such comments are very irresponsible, what does he do?

Makes the same comments, five times worse. He can't stand it when people point out he's wrong. He loses his sh!t completely and he makes it worse.

We've seen this a thousand times with him and it's only now that people are figuring it out? He's a menace. He's reckless. He's dangerous.

They are partially responsible for it and you can include the U.S. and Europe. There isn't anything irresponsible about it, the people you have been voting for caused this and the neocons/globalist.

He's a menace. He's reckless. He's dangerous.

Only to an insane person. He appreciates you working for him, every time you type... you probably get more supporters for him.

The Ukraine will probably continue to burn, and Europe is on deck for depopulation. Bravo.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Trump says Ukraine started the war and that they better get in line or will lose their country. When it is pointed out that such comments are very irresponsible, what does he do?

Makes the same comments, five times worse. He can't stand it when people point out he's wrong. He loses his sh!t completely and he makes it worse.

We've seen this a thousand times with him and it's only now that people are figuring it out? He's a menace. He's reckless. He's dangerous.

You do realize that the US wouldn’t be in this pile of sh1t situation if Biden knew what the hell he was doing, right?

 

[LSU-SIU]

You do realize that the US wouldn’t be in this pile of sh1t situation if Biden knew what the hell he was doing, right?

Technically, someone knew what they were doing... we're just getting closer to the burn it down phase.

Many of us predicted it in this very thread.

If I were to guess, we're onto Europe next.

 

[lawgator1]

You do realize that the US wouldn’t be in this pile of sh1t situation if Biden knew what the hell he was doing, right?

Yoyr post is perhaps the weakest effort to distract of all time on the board.

Trump, as predicted by myself and others, is on the verge of handing Ukraine to Putin in a silver platter. And your weaksauce response is, yeah, well, Biden sucked.

Stay focused. Trump is out of control.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Yoyr post is perhaps the weakest effort to distract of all time on the board.

Trump, as predicted by myself and others, is on the verge of handing Ukraine to Putin in a silver platter. And your weaksauce response is, yeah, well, Biden sucked.

Stay focused. Trump is out of control.

No, you did not predict I did... you encouraged wreck-less behavior and now people will die. I said in the Ukraine was going to be abandoned and I said why.

Europe is on deck, see my 2022 posts.

Trump campaigned on it.