War in Ukraine

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So which of you goobers are proud of that sh*tshow from Trump and Vance? These two are complete clowns. Total embarrassment. They don't know the first thing about governing or international relations.

And all indicators are a recession is coming. Classic Republican presidency. f*** stuff up. Have democrats come in to right the ship in 4 years.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I am not going that far, but Trump is selling out 60 years of American foreign policy for some reason, be it malfeasance or misfeasance. The result is the same.
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American foreign policy for the last 60 years has been an abject failure and a stain on the legacy of our country.

I don't like how he's doing this though. This public fiasco is a horrible look for everyone involved. That's not how you set the table for lasting piece through negotiations.
 
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evillawyer said:
So which of you goobers are proud of that sh*tshow from Trump and Vance? These two are complete clowns. Total embarrassment. They don't know the first thing about governing or international relations.

And all indicators are a recession is coming. Classic Republican presidency. f*** stuff up. Have democrats come in to right the ship in 4 years.
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😂

Evil Death cult.
 
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evillawyer said:
So which of you goobers are proud of that sh*tshow from Trump and Vance? These two are complete clowns. Total embarrassment. They don't know the first thing about governing or international relations.

And all indicators are a recession is coming. Classic Republican presidency. f*** stuff up. Have democrats come in to right the ship in 4 years.
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If a recession is coming, it’s not the Republicans fault. Hard to cause a recession in less than 2 months.
 
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KB5252 said:
American foreign policy for the last 60 years has been an abject failure and a stain on the legacy of our country.

I don't like how he's doing this though. This public fiasco is a horrible look for everyone involved. That's not how you set the table for lasting piece through negotiations.
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You assume that is what Trump wants.

He wants what Putin wants, which is for Ukraine to fold, and on terms extremely favorable to Putin.
 
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evillawyer said:
So which of you goobers are proud of that sh*tshow from Trump and Vance? These two are complete clowns. Total embarrassment. They don't know the first thing about governing or international relations.

And all indicators are a recession is coming. Classic Republican presidency. f*** stuff up. Have democrats come in to right the ship in 4 years.
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There have been indicators of a coming recession for going on two years now.
 
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evillawyer said:
So which of you goobers are proud of that sh*tshow from Trump and Vance? These two are complete clowns. Total embarrassment. They don't know the first thing about governing or international relations.

And all indicators are a recession is coming. Classic Republican presidency. f*** stuff up. Have democrats come in to right the ship in 4 years.
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LOL that was all Zelensky. As VP Vance said the US has sent billions to his country and he hasn't sai thank you once and is upset that President Trump is actually trying to end this war.

Zelensky doesn't want an end to the war. Probably because he's making ao much money off it.
 
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Basically what spoken about end of last week and earlier this week.

> He can't have the war end
> He has no plan to win the war with or without the U.S.
> He can't hold elections, if he did he's gone
> The country has no way of supporting itself
> The U.S. is bailing and Europe won't have the ability to fill the void but even if they did there is no plan
> He says they will never sign another agreement with the Russians

To the last Ukrainian.

Its a Mad King (Jester in this case) situation. As an American just Trump dumping them is fine to me a success, but if he wants to save lives he'll probably have to take out the Mad Jester.

I just wouldn't answer the phone anymore but that is just me. 🤷‍♂️
 
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lawgator1 said:
You assume that is what Trump wants.

He wants what Putin wants, which is for Ukraine to fold, and on terms extremely favorable to Putin.
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I'm assuming nothing. I'm pointing out that "turning foreign policy on its head for some reason" not a direct quote but me paraphrasing......... Isn't necessarily a bad thing........ Because we've been successful at being despicable.

The second half of my statement you responded back to should speak for itself. That should never have been made for public consumption...... No matter you think Trump is handling it well or terribly....... It was just a horrible look. It was ambush diplomacy live.
 
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KB5252 said:
I'm assuming nothing. I'm pointing out that "turning foreign on its head for done reason" not a direct site but me paraphrasing......... Isn't necessarily a bad thing........ Because we've been successful at being despicable.

The second half of my statement you responded back to should speak for itself. That should never have been made for public consumption...... No matter you think Trump is handling it well or terribly....... It was just a horrible look. It was ambush diplomacy live.
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It backs Zelensky into an impossible corner. And Trump gets to beat his chest and call Zelensky an ingrate and obstructionist.

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CagleMtnVol said:
LOL that was all Zelensky. As VP Vance said the US has sent billions to his country and he hasn't sai thank you once and is upset that President Trump is actually trying to end this war.

Zelensky doesn't want an end to the war. Probably because he's making ao much money off it.
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Yeah Zelensky fact checked Vance, and Vance lost his sh!t.

 
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