War in Ukraine

[Orange_Crush]

I guess he’s adopted the attitude that if you don't want the U.S. to be involved, then by default, you’re pro-Russia. Therefore, if the Europeans get involved, it makes it harder for Russia to ‘win’ and causes great angst amongst all the right-wingers in America.

The people need an answer.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Why? I don’t understand your logic.

Psst... Now ask why non-interventionists are "far right'.

 

[TheDirector]

Oops! This is similar to the Democrats and MSM teaming up to use the exact same wording for whatever nonsense they are pushing to regularly resist President Trump. "Systemic Racism" "Threat to Democracy" "Fascist" etc... It's like robots regurgitating the same exact phrases and hoping people won't notice.

 

[JFreak]

We lived up to our word, we never invaded or encroached upon Ukraines sovereignty. We never guaranteed nobody else would.

US provided assurance that if any signatories did that we would provide support.

 

[LSU-SIU]

US provided assurance that if any signatories did that we would provide support.

U.S. provided assurances that it would respect the border of the country, the U.S. did not provide a security guarantee for the country.

 

[Ashevolle]

Liberals don’t care about Eastern Europeans lives, they just don’t want Trump to end the war in peace. Let’s be honest.

I am being honest about Trump. Dude doesn't give AF. Liberals are millions of different people and have varying degrees of giving AF.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I am being honest about Trump. Dude doesn't give AF. Liberals are millions of different people and have varying degrees of giving AF.

Seems like he does, he doesn't want the Ukrainians to die. They have made this clear. Not sure if serious.

 

[Ashevolle]

Seems like he does, he doesn't want the Ukrainians to die. They have made this clear. Not sure if serious.

No. He wants Ukraine to surrender, not have peace. Once they surrender, he will let Russia do whatever they want. He doesn't give AF.

 

[newyorkvol]

Seems like he does, he doesn't want the Ukrainians to die. They have made this clear. Not sure if serious.

Unfortunately, adversaries will interpret these pretty clear words to show he’s a Russian asset and wants world domination while padding the pockets of billionaires.

 

[LSU-SIU]

No. He wants Ukraine to surrender, not have peace. Once they surrender, he will let Russia do whatever they want. He doesn't give AF.

No. He said they can work out any deal they want. Not sure if serious. He would like to see the killing stopped, that seems like the opposite of not caring.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Anyone seen this?

Disaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal

Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn).

nypost.com

 

[JFreak]

U.S. provided assurances that it would respect the border of the country, the U.S. did not provide a security guarantee for the country.

Wrong. It was an multi-national agreement for all signatories to respect the territorial integrity of Ukraine. With assurances if any signatory failed to do so.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Wrong. It was an multi-national agreement for all signatories to respect the territorial integrity of Ukraine. With assurances if any signatory failed to do so.

UNTC

There are only assurances by all parties, there are no security guarantees or "support" by a party to the document.

It was an multi-national agreement for all signatories to respect the territorial integrity of Ukraine.

True, but that is not what was said. No country gave security guarantees or support of any kind.

 

[Carl Pickens]

No. He wants Ukraine to surrender, not have peace. Once they surrender, he will let Russia do whatever they want. He doesn't give AF.

So you’re a but….Russia Russia Russia guy?

 

[Majors]

I am being honest about Trump. Dude doesn't give AF. Liberals are millions of different people and have varying degrees of giving AF.

Except that whole peace talk he discusses. Interesting the liberals never entered those discussions in all their fake compassion.

 

[Majors]

No. He wants Ukraine to surrender, not have peace. Once they surrender, he will let Russia do whatever they want. He doesn't give AF.

That’s what you’re told to believe because you need a villain.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Video: Moment spectators think Zelensky called JD Vance a 'b****' in row | Daily Mail Online

During a heated White House discussion, spectators believed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky called U.S. Senator JD Vance a 'bitch,' sparking confusion. Arguments quickly followed as officials attempted to clarify the situation.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[CobbVol]

I'm going to enjoy watching a bunch of the people who said "Ukraine is Europe's problem" throw a tantrum when Europe steps up.

Europe spends more on climate change than Ukraine in addition to their continued purchasing of Russian oil and gas. That is not "stepping up".

 

[DC_Vol]

That's really bad logic

It’s a stretch to even characterize this as logic.

 

[Ashevolle]

That’s what you’re told to believe because you need a villain.

Funny how the last 15 years all my personal observations and conclusions about those observations was really just someone telling me what to think because I think life is a movie. Thank God you were here to sort everything out for me.

 

[Ashevolle]

Except that whole peace talk he discusses. Interesting the liberals never entered those discussions in all their fake compassion.

Peace talks that no one would agree to from Ukraine. If those terms sounded good to you, you'd be a horrible leader.

"Let Russia keep everything they stole from you AND give us your mineral rights. In exchange, we'll ask Russia to leave you alone (but no promises kk)...." ****ing brilliant.

 

[Orangeburst]

Anyone seen this?

Disaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal

Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn).

nypost.com

****

 

[Majors]

Peace talks that no one would agree to from Ukraine. If those terms sounded good to you, you'd be a horrible leader

I elected the leader to stop funding Ukraine. Same leader that managed to have Russia out while he was in office previously.

 

[Ashevolle]

So you’re a but….Russia Russia Russia guy?

So you're a "open wide for anything Trump wants to put in your mouth" guy?

 

[hog88]

US provided assurance that if any signatories did that we would provide support.

No, that is not the wording of the agreement.