War in Ukraine

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[Sandman 423]

I think it very well may have made a discernable difference.
But the key is that Putin wanted trump and trump welcomed and encouraged Russia's illegal help.

trump and Putin are mutual supporters..

I think the had a vested interest in sowing division and weakening America. Congrats on being so easily manipulated.

 

[luthervol]

I think the had a vested interest in sowing division and weakening America. Congrats on being so easily manipulated.

Putin was fully aware that the best way to weaken America and strengthen himself was to support trump.
Congrats on being gullible enough to willingly play along.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Putin was fully aware that the best way to weaken America and strengthen himself was to support trump.
Congrats on being gullible enough to willingly play along.

Actually he said that he would prefer to work with Biden, iirc. It seems to me if that was Putin's plan was to weaken American that has clearly gone in the opposite direction.

 

[Sandman 423]

Putin was fully aware that the best way to weaken America and strengthen himself was to support trump.
Congrats on being gullible enough to willingly play along.

Unless you just post to spam your ideology on all of us and don't pay attention to what we say back, you already know that I have never supported Trump as a candidate.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Surely I am suggesting that Putin/Russia had a much larger vested interest and organized interference in 2016.

Then why were they giving Hillary millions of dollars?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Actually he said that he would prefer to work with Biden, iirc. It seems to me if that was Putin's plan was to weaken American that has clearly gone in the opposite direction.

Don't forget Obama being caught on the hot mike saying to the Russian prime Minister, to wait until after the election when he would have more freedom to do what he wanted.

 

[luthervol]

Unless you just post to spam your ideology on all of us and don't pay attention to what we say back, you already know that I have never supported Trump as a candidate.

My apologies.

 

[hog88]

1. Only we have the ability to read all of Russia's electronic communications.
2. Our stuff integrates with missile systems, including HIMARS and Patriot missile batteries.
3. Trump has forbidden the UK from sharing intelligence with Ukraine.

Now Trump will have the Ukrainians blood on his hands.

Is he killing Ukrainians?

 

[Orange.]

I think it very well may have made a discernable difference.
But the key is that Putin wanted trump and trump welcomed and encouraged Russia's illegal help.

trump and Putin are mutual supporters..

Stop spreading known lies. Your mom and Putin, though, whoa.

 

[hog88]

1. Only we have the ability to read all of Russia's electronic communications.
2. Our stuff integrates with missile systems, including HIMARS and Patriot missile batteries.
3. Trump has forbidden the UK from sharing intelligence with Ukraine.

Now Trump will have the Ukrainians blood on his hands.

I asked @MontyPython this question and he must have missed it because he hasn't answered so I'll ask you and @BeardedVol since both of you have similar views on Ukraine.

In your estimation, if Trump gave Ukraine all the weapons, ammunition, support and aid they wanted how long would it take them to drive Russia out? How many Ukrainians do you think would die in the effort?

 

[LSU-SIU]

I asked @MontyPython this question and he must have missed it because he hasn't answered so I'll ask you and @BeardedVol since both of you have similar views on Ukraine.

How many Ukrainians do you think would die in the effort?

At this point, all of them.

Edit: And they still wouldn't accomplish the objective.

"You lost" - Trump to the Comedian

 

[BeardedVol]

I asked @MontyPython this question and he must have missed it because he hasn't answered so I'll ask you and @BeardedVol since both of you have similar views on Ukraine.

In your scenario, are we still going to limit Ukraine's ability to attack targets inside Russia?

 

[hog88]

In your scenario, are we still going to limit Ukraine's ability to attack targets inside Russia?

No, I think my scenario was pretty clear.

In your estimation, if Trump gave Ukraine all the weapons, ammunition, support and aid they wanted how long would it take them to drive Russia out? How many Ukrainians do you think would die in the effort?

 

[Orange.]

Don't forget Obama being caught on the hot mike saying to the Russian prime Minister, to wait until after the election when he would have more freedom to do what he wanted.

Hillary's "reset button." It's a shame as head of the State Department she couldn't get the word accurately translated.)

 

[C-south]

Surely I am suggesting that Putin/Russia had a much larger vested interest and organized interference in 2016.

Yet there’s only one person who ever made promises to Putin and it was caught on camera. Your messiah bath house Barry.

 

[C-south]

Putin was fully aware that the best way to weaken America and strengthen himself was to support trump.
Congrats on being gullible enough to willingly play along.

Putin saw the mentally deranged, dei nut jobs the dims put in “leadership” positions.

 

[KB5252]

It's been obvious for awhile now that Trump is actively trying to stop Ukraine from being able to defend themselves.

I am supportive of Ukraine, but have tired of war and paying for it. Ukraine can continue to resist. But they will need to do it without our money or arms. They no longer have the boots available to sustain this war.

If we continue to support it we could do end up with NATO members with boots on the ground. That's a nightmare scenario to be played out. That would be another step closer to world war. We don't need that.

Ukraine can continue to fight the good fight if they wish........ But they'd be wise to negotiate terms that provide their security and Russia will live with.

 

[Orange.]

It sounds like grifter and pretend tough-guy Zelensky has gone from telling America that your soldiers will fight whether you want them to or not, to "you will give us your intelligence for free whether you want to or not."

When is Zelensky going to quit getting his people killed for feckless PR photos? Those are real people Zelensky is killing.

 

[Orange.]

This is not the crooked Ukrainian oligarch's TV show op that supposedly got Z elected.

Zelensky needs to stop pretending to be pop show politician, posing in leather and women's heels, showing his tits, playing piano with his peen, and marching around in his little track suits. He needs to save his compatriots' lives. All deaths since he intentionally blew up the White House meeting are on the not-so-funny comedian.

Maybe if he won't stop the war, the Rada should replace him with someone who will. Do something Rada. You are killing Ukrainians, right along with the guy in high heels.

 

[LSU-SIU]

As I mentioned a few weeks back the war there is effectively over, meaning we're entering the next phase. Not sure it even matters how the Ukraine finishes up. The war is now onto Europe, as I mentioned back in 2022.

Sept 2022

The war in the Ukraine is over and has been. The economic war with Europe is at the beginning stage. What goes on in the Ukraine is fairly meaningless, just how many are killed and what the size of the parking lot is.

 

[Orange.]

Your soldiers will fight whether you want them to or not.

You will give me a security guarantee whether you want to or not.

You will give me free intelligence whenever I say whether you want to or not.

What an ingrate and an assho

 

[BeardedVol]

This is not the crooked Ukrainian oligarch's TV show op that supposedly got Z elected.

Zelensky needs to stop pretending to be pop show politician, posing in leather and women's heels, showing his tits, playing piano with his peen, and marching around in his little track suits. He needs to save his compatriots' lives. All deaths since he intentionally blew up the White House meeting are on the not-so-funny comedian.

Maybe if he won't stop the war, the Rada should replace him with someone who will. Do something Rada. You are killing Ukrainians, right along with the guy in high heels.
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Donald Trump has 'obligations' to those who brought him to power—Putin ally

Vladimir Putin's aide and former Secretary of the Security Council Nikolai Patrushev has commented on Donald Trump's election victory.

www.newsweek.com

 

[LSU-SIU]

Putin saw the mentally deranged, dei nut jobs the dims put in “leadership” positions.

Putin actually said last week in an interview that they hoped Zelensky isn't replaced as he is incompetent and who better to have a conflict with. He's right. The issue I think is someone that is suicidal in nature, meaning To The Last Ukrainian.... I think the Russians will keep the door open for a closure but at the end of the day they just have to keep going.

The Ukrainians can't materially win this conflict in any manner. The best time to sit at the table was probably Fall of 2022 when I said, or early 2023.

The conflict in the Ukraine has been over for quite some time, the conflict in Europe is only at the early stage.

 

[LSU-SIU]

About 20 countries could join Ukraine coalition, UK says - BBC News

Pretend time. What parts of what the Europe are doing is making it look like they are working with everyone and supporting the Ukraine. In reality, this has zero chance of success and is just a gimmick i.e. pretend and extend. France and Germany seem to want to move to the war machine, I would give them the edge but its still just two weaklings.