War in Ukraine

[lawgator1]

comment would make a lot more sense if we were European and punting responsibility

Comment makes sense in this modern world, assuming Article V means anything.

 

[apevol]

Comment makes sense in this modern world, assuming Article V means anything.

how does article 5 come into play here? nato hasn't been attacked and Ukraine is not an ally

 

[Orange.]

"wHY dON'T yOU gO fIGHT iN uKRAINE?!?!?!"

Why don’t you go fight in Ukraine?

 

[Orange.]

In a just world Putin would be held accountable for the death destruction he's brought to Ukraine, and anyone who supported him would be ostracized from normal society.

But here we are...

Trump’s Affinity for Putin Grows More Consequential Than Ever

President Trump’s admiration for President Vladimir Putin of Russia has been endlessly dissected, but the American leader’s policy shifts since taking office again could have profound effects.

www.nytimes.com

NYT is a propaganda rag and an unreliable source

 

[Orange.]

Hey there Neville, how's it going ?

You want Germany to invade Russia again, don’t you? I follow your analogy.

Join the German Army and see if you can get it done.

 

[volfanhill]

Hey there Neville, how's it going ?

Was Obama being like Neville in 2014?

You've been on the board since 2005. Please direct me to your posts criticizing the Obama admin on this subject.

 

[BeardedVol]

Why don’t you go fight in Ukraine?

What is it with MAGA and that moronic argument?

As if is impossible to support a country defending themselves from an invasion, without going and directly fighting on their behalf.

 

[Orange.]

So Zelensky who is following his country's constitution, and is only still president for doing so , just wants to remain in power, but Putin who has been in power for a quarter century, and murders his political opponents, and has fake elections, is the better leader to deal with?

Russia, China, Iran to hold joint naval drills in Gulf of Oman

The exercises are aimed at deepening "the mutual trust and pragmatic cooperation between the participating countries' armies," the Chinese Defense Ministry said.

kyivindependent.com

JFC, the MAGA hardon for autocrats is truly bizarre.

Misinformation.

Despite the numerous times it has been claimed in this thread and in the propaganda US media, it is NOT true that the Ukrainian Constitution states that the president of Ukraine continues in power under marshal law with no election required.

The Ukrainian Constitution says that of the Rada, the unicameral national legislature.

The Rada passed a law that stated the same for Zelensky. And the Rada can repeal that law at any time at their pleasure.

 

[BeardedVol]

NYT is a propaganda rag and an unreliable source

Obligatory.

 

[hog88]

What is it with MAGA and that moronic argument?

As if is impossible to support a country defending themselves from an invasion, without going and directly fighting on their behalf.

If you’re going to label people cowards for simply not wanting to fund their defense yeah, you need to put your own skin in the game.

 

[volfanhill]

What is it with MAGA and that moronic argument?

As if is impossible to support a country defending themselves from an invasion, without going and directly fighting on their behalf.

It's also possible to do that and not think we should give them money or weapons.

 

[C-south]

What is it with MAGA and that moronic argument?

As if is impossible to support a country defending themselves from an invasion, without going and directly fighting on their behalf.

We did

 

[McDad]

It's also possible to do that and not think we should give them money or weapons.

Amen. Much like Amber Heard, this street goes both ways.

 

[Orange.]

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It’s a proven fact that the NYT spread the false RussiaGate treasonous election-interference op, the treasonous election-interference ops denying concerning Hunter’s laptop, the lie that covid did not originate in a U.S. supported lab but rather because some Joe Blow made some bat soup, etc., etc.

This lie that POTUS and Putin are besties is one of NYT’s lying propaganda obsessions. They are proven to be unreliable.

 

[BeardedVol]

If you’re going to label people cowards for simply not wanting to fund their defense yeah, you need to put your own skin in the game.

You still salty about me pointing out that you'd surrender at the first foreign boot to hit US soil?

 

[C-south]

You still salty about me pointing out that you'd surrender at the first foreign boot to hit US soil?

I’m sure you and the Ukrainians would be on the front line.

 

[hog88]

You still salty about me pointing out that you'd surrender at the first foreign boot to hit US soil?

No, idiots don’t get under my skin.

 

[BeardedVol]

It’s a proven fact that the NYT spread the false RussiaGate treasonous election-interference op, the treasonous election-interference ops denying concerning Hunter’s laptop, the lie that covid did not originate in a U.S. supported lab but rather because some Joe Blow made some bat soup, etc., etc.

This lie that POTUS and Putin are besties is one of NYT’s lying propaganda obsessions. They are proven to be unreliable.

Cool.

Fox News to pay $787M settlement to Dominion Voting Systems over stolen election lies

The defamation trial against Fox News concluded before it even began. Dominion Voting Systems alleged the right-wing network knowingly broadcast lies that its voting machines were used to steal the 2020 presidential election. On Tuesday, Fox agreed to settle the case and pay Dominion $787...

www.pbs.org

 

[BeardedVol]

No, idiots don’t get under my skin.

Don't worry hog, I'm sure any country that could hypothetically invade the US would want some bootlickers amongst the populace to dissuade their fellow citizens from resisting.

You could sing your "peace through surrender" song for everyone then.

 

[lawgator1]

how does article 5 come into play here? nato hasn't been attacked and Ukraine is not an ally

We don't want them to be attacked, that's the point of having Ukraine fend off and deplete Putin so badly he can't recover in this lifetime to attack a NATO member.

 

[hog88]

Don't worry hog, I'm sure any country that could hypothetically invade the US would want some bootlickers amongst the populace to dissuade their fellow citizens from resisting.

You could sing your "peace through surrender" song for everyone then.

You’d fit that bill just fine.

 

[hog88]

We don't want them to be attacked, that's the point of having Ukraine fend off and deplete Putin so badly he can't recover in this lifetime to attack a NATO member.

He’s never going to attack a NATO member.

 

[McDad]

Yall have gone off the deep end trying to extrapolate opinions on Ukraine/ Russia into poo flinging about defense of one's home country.

 

[lawgator1]

He’s never going to attack a NATO member.

Probably right.

Probably.


If he was going to do it, it would be while Trump is President, that's for sure.

 

[McDad]

Probably right.

Probably.


If he was going to do it, it would be while Trump is President, that's for sure.

Did he between '16 and '20?

When did he first make moves on Ukraine?