War in Ukraine

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You know you're in deep sh*t if the Swiss freeze all your assets. Never heard of the Swiss taking such action financially. I'd wager the Oligarchs have serious chunks of change in Switzerland.

Neutral Switzerland 'probable' to hit Russia with financial sanctions, president says

After days of fence-sitting, Swiss President Ignazio Cassis said on Sunday it was "very probable" that neutral Switzerland would follow the European Union’s lead and sanction Russia and freeze Russian assets in the country.

Reuters reported that Cassis, who was interviewed on French-language Swiss public television, said the nation's seven-member Federal Council would meet Monday and review recommendations by finance and economy officials.

"It is very probable that the government will decide to do so tomorrow, but I cannot anticipate decisions not yet taken," Cassis said, via Reuters.
 
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rjd970 said:
I don’t get this. I mean I completely understand staying out of it militarily, but we “should just let Russia take Ukraine” makes no sense. What year is this, 1939?
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There's an extensive body of evidence that illustrates that Trump is compromised with Russia.

At a minimum, Trump calling Putin a "genius" at the onset of the war? Come on man. He just needs to STFU.
 
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MontyPython said:
There's an extensive body of evidence that illustrates that Trump is compromised with Russia. He's certainly not on our side.
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If Trump were truly compromised he would have been charged a long time ago. The IRS has audited him probably more than anyone else and couldn’t get him. They got Al Capone on tax evasion but can’t get Donald Trump? Think about that because it speaks volumes. You can say he’s an a-hole and a sleazeball, and you’d be correct. But one thing he seems to have going for him is that he hasn’t been compromised by foreign countries.
 
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Anonymous attacked again, and they stole around 222gb of data from Kremlin ... soon they will share the names of all the agents
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FWIW.

They share the names of agents (spies) living all not only in Russia, but all over the world ...
source : Anonymous zaútočili na Rusko a z Kremľa získal 222 GB dát. Zverejní mená všetkých agentov
 
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DuckInAPen said:
Do I understand correctly, then, that you're unaware of any instance in which sanctions have had the effect of so alienating the people of the sanctioned nation against their rulers that they overthrew them, but that you believe that the unprecedented magnitude of the current sanctions imposed on Russia may reasonably be hoped to achieve such an outcome?
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The goal of sanctions isn’t regime change. It’s to make life hard for Russia (Putin and his cronies in particular).
 
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Septic said:
yes, I am unaware and no I don't believe it will cause the people of Russia to rise up. I hope it does, but do not think it will. Nonetheless, if your position is that we do not punish bad behavior for fear that it might galvanize the people against the west - I say it's a risk we have to take. It's sanctions, war or nothing - do you have a viable alternative?
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I don't. The West needs to gain some sort of leverage to encourage Russia to stand down. Since war is (or should be) out of the question, sanctions are all we have. I was simply questioning the idea (which I understood -- wrongly, it seems -- to have been asserted in the post to which I initially replied) that sanctions might reasonably be hoped to result in regime change.
 
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Paper_Towel said:


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“Disinformation and utter hoaxes are now being aggressively spread as well. Both Rep. Kinzinger and Rep. Swalwell ratified and spread the story of the so-called "Ghost of Kyiv,” a Ukrainian fighter pilot said to have single-handedly shot down six Russian planes. Tales and memes commemorating his heroism viralized on social media, ultimately ratified by these members of Congress and other prominent voices. The problem? It is a complete hoax and scam, concocted through a combination of deep fake videos based on images from a popular video game. Yet to date, few who have spread this fraud have retracted it, while censorship-happy Big Tech corporations have permitted most of these fraudulent posts to remain without a disinformation label on it.”

War Propaganda About Ukraine Becoming More Militaristic, Authoritarian, and Reckless
 
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midnight orange said:
“Disinformation and utter hoaxes are now being aggressively spread as well. Both Rep. Kinzinger and Rep. Swalwell ratified and spread the story of the so-called "Ghost of Kyiv,” a Ukrainian fighter pilot said to have single-handedly shot down six Russian planes. Tales and memes commemorating his heroism viralized on social media, ultimately ratified by these members of Congress and other prominent voices. The problem? It is a complete hoax and scam, concocted through a combination of deep fake videos based on images from a popular video game. Yet to date, few who have spread this fraud have retracted it, while censorship-happy Big Tech corporations have permitted most of these fraudulent posts to remain without a disinformation label on it.”

War Propaganda About Ukraine Becoming More Militaristic, Authoritarian, and Reckless
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Excellent substack. Thanks for sharing! Lots to chew on.
 
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