War in Ukraine

[GroverCleveland]

First off, Germany actually encouraged Austria-Hungary to go to war with Serbia. By 1914, Austria-Hungary was almost a puppet state of the German Empire because their leadership was very weak. Look it up, Germany pushed the war. Germany almost started WW1 in 1911 over Morocco. The only way that WW1 doesn't happen is if Kaiser Wilhelm and his general staff are not running the show in Germany.

None of the history I've read on the topic is compatible with this take. Germany made some noises seemingly encouraging Austria-Hungary and then kind of pulled back, but not really sort of way. The Kaiser was actually sailing around on his yacht when it all started. I've mentioned this in other threads that Germany was a captive of their dependency of their railway time tables for mobilization. Once Russia started mobilization and refused to back off, Germany, knowing France was obligated to Russia and the Schlieffen Plan depended on knocking out France first, pretty much had no choice but to declare war on Russia and France. Not to say the war would not have eventually happened, but Bismarck was prophetic that "... some damned foolish thing in the Balkans" would cause a general European war. In reference to an earlier mention of early Russian success, that pretty much occurred because (1) Russia mobilized faster than anticipated and (2) lack of German troops in the east.

Austria-Hungary was not really a puppet state of Germany until 1917 when her military was pretty much spent and depending on the annual class of conscripts. At that point, Ludendorff and Hindenburg imposed their will on Austria in exchange for further German military assistance.

 

[0nelilreb]

You don't know that poster you quoted very well do you?

He doesn’t even remember all the let’s go in and kill Putin or I’m first one to die if Putin drops the big one posts he’s made . He’s a loon .

 

[PEPPERJAX]

IMO the Putin announcement is 100% a scare tactic. Nuclear weapons are always "on alert" to be launched quickly. Isn't that the point? Nuclear forces are never put into some "dormant" or "inactive" state where it'd take days or weeks to get them ready.

The dormant or inactive state applies to North Korea.

 

[05_never_again]

The dormant or inactive state applies to North Korea.

But they are in that state because the North Koreans have no choice. They don't keep them there intentionally - if they could get systems to launch them at a moment's notice like all the other nuke powers, they would.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

He doesn’t even remember all the let’s go in and kill Putin or I’m first one to die if Putin drops the big one posts he’s made . He’s a loon .

I have noticed. He has been supplying ultimate lulz for at least a week now. Hard to keep up with actually.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

But they are in that state because the North Koreans have no choice. They don't keep them there intentionally - if they could get systems to launch them at a moment's notice like all the other nuke powers, they would.

It was a knock on their weapons program.

 

[volbound1700]

None of the history I've read on the topic is compatible with this take. Germany made some noises seemingly encouraging Austria-Hungary and then kind of pulled back, but not really sort of way. The Kaiser was actually sailing around on his yacht when it all started. I've mentioned this in other threads that Germany was a captive of their dependency of their railway time tables for mobilization. Once Russia started mobilization and refused to back off, Germany, knowing France was obligated to Russia and the Schlieffen Plan depended on knocking out France first, pretty much had no choice but to declare war on Russia and France. Not to say the war would not have eventually happened, but Bismarck was prophetic that "... some damned foolish thing in the Balkans" would cause a general European war. In reference to an earlier mention of early Russian success, that pretty much occurred because (1) Russia mobilized faster than anticipated and (2) lack of German troops in the east.

Austria-Hungary was not really a puppet state of Germany until 1917 when her military was pretty much spent and depending on the annual class of conscripts. At that point, Ludendorff and Hindenburg imposed their will on Austria in exchange for further German military assistance.

You can find tons of articles about Germany "encouraging" Austria-Hungary to start the war. Just Google it:

when did germany gave austria a blank check - Google Search

 

[AM64]

It's hard to say exactly. Something about him just pisses me off.
I'll give him this: He sticks to his guns.

Ras has some good arguments in other forums.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

I love that the UK fact checks. Ukraine invasion: Misleading claims continue to go viral

 

[Velo Vol]

It all makes sense now. Ukraine > Turkey > Israel > ???

 

[Paper_Towel]

 

[Burhead]

Just like his prewar demands of NATO going back to 1997 borders these peace demands are just as unrealistic.

 

[Hunerwadel]

What is a bad idea? Nato? Or disbanding it? I am yet to see NATO do one thing truly useful.

That's because you don't know where to look. NATO has worked perfectly since it's inception.

 

[GroverCleveland]

If we're seeing it on VNPF, you KNOW that there are predator drone operators looking down on that sh*t in real time just itching to get the green light.

Doesn't seem fair that pooty gets to call in reinforcements and the rest of the world has to sit by and watch. He's a thug and this stain on history will now belong to Russia and Belarus.

Can one imagine what it would be like to be pilots of a flight of A10s looking at that?

 

[volbound1700]

I wouldn't be surprised if Putin is just looking for another method to go back and tell his people that he tried to make peace but Ukraine said no because they are full of Jewish Nazis.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Hopefully he gets wasted. He has been there since 2014.

You mean he didn't come back for January 6th?

 

[05_never_again]

It all makes sense now. Ukraine > Turkey > Israel > ???

Nice, that's Pat's like 28th different scenario presented for the Battle of Gog and Magog.

Putin can't handle invading and taking over Ukraine, but next he's going to take out Turkey and Israel.

 

[Burhead]

 

[Burhead]

 

[Sandman 423]

If you are an American, you are a scumbag traitor

Kinda harsh...... There is so much that our government does behind the scenes that you can never know if you are supporting the good or bad guys.

 

[Paper_Towel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoot.../?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

 

[Paper_Towel]

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

We are NOT going to say that Is fact yet, but you start putting the pieces together and it seems to be the one that came out of Belarus, and the explosion I posted earlier, and then deleted. There was also a post from the same media source that said they rounded up the democratic protesters in Belarus and shot them live on state t.v. (lots of confusion over this, but not beyond question).

 

[Paper_Towel]

In advance, SIAP on some of these tweets.

 

[Velo Vol]

24 hours? Don't they have to submit an application, references, credit information and stuff?