War in Ukraine

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Politico confirms we're going balls to the wall providing intel.

U.S. SHARING INTEL WITH UKRAINE: The U.S. is sharing intelligence with Ukraine at a “frenetic” pace to help them fend off the Russians, CNN’s NATASHA BERTRAND and KATIE BO LILLIS reported.

“[T]he US' secure communications with Ukrainian officials are becoming increasingly difficult to maintain as the war rages on, the sources told CNN. Officials also acknowledged that the US is now more limited in its ability to collect real-time intelligence with no one on the ground, and the apparent lack of military drones flying overhead,” they wrote. “Sources familiar with the intelligence said it is indeed being downgraded, but primarily to scrub sensitive sources and methods — a particular concern given the logistical challenges with establishing fully secure lines with Ukrainian officials amid the Russian onslaught.

“In most cases, two sources familiar with the sharing system said, the intelligence being shared involves information about Russian force movements and locations, as well as intercepted communications about their military plans. And it is typically being provided to Ukrainian officials as quickly as within 30 minutes to an hour of the US receiving it, one of the sources said."

NatSec Daily readers may remember that yesterday we reported the confusion over whether the U.S. was providing the Ukrainians with targeting intelligence. We can now confirm the broad outlines of this new report: The U.S. is sharing intelligence at remarkable speed, multiple U.S. officials confirmed, though the precise nature of it still remains unclear to us.
 
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davethevol said:
An argument could be made that now with social media and tech savvy westerners, many of these soldiers can see more of the truth of what’s going on the world and aren’t as quick to do something just because they are told to do it. So many of the Russians have shown their hearts are not into this war. Putin is not controlling the narrative as well as he hoped.
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The numbers from some of the battles from the past are mind blowing, Great Britain had more casualties at the Somme than all of WW2 combined.
 
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davethevol said:
An argument could be made that now with social media and tech savvy westerners, many of these soldiers can see more of the truth of what’s going on the world and aren’t as quick to do something just because they are told to do it. So many of the Russians have shown their hearts are not into this war. Putin is not controlling the narrative as well as he hoped.
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That's true to a point, and easterners are pretty tech savvy too. On the other hand social media has a lot of planted misinformation.
 
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Burhead said:
Blinken said we've given green light to NATO countries to supply jets to Ukraine. We'll see if they will follow through after the collapsed EU deal.
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Many things to balance here. We want to help the Ukrainians bog the Russians down so that Putin has reason to negotiate. We don't want to give Putin an excuse to attack European NATO members. We don't want to embolden him by making him think we are not resolved to help Ukraine in any way we can short of placing American servicemen directly in harms way.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Yeah, he could have even approved Putin’s pet pipeline project…..oh….wait
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noun
BRITISH

  1. the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It is dicey, no question about that. But that isn't what you were suggesting. You were suggesting allowing the Ukrainians to shed blood in order to get some political cover.
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You were suggesting that Russia invaded because they thought Ukraine was moving forces with the intention of attacking.
That's a horrible excuse.
Are you now claiming that one country shouldn't allow another country to shed the blood of innocents? How much blood shed of innocent people would legitimize invasion?
 
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