War in Ukraine

[Rasputin_Vol]

The point is that 'research facilities' doesn't necessarily mean 'weapons production'.

Then tell Nuland to stop fearmongering.

 

[EasternVol]

Kazakhstan was in the process of being overthrown. He could have simply taken over without any resistance.

Russia helped put down the protests in Kasakhstan to protect a friendly government. Why take over when you've already got what you want?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Yes...
For our sake and the future of humanity.

Right answer. We need to be more cautious. I couldn't agree more.

 

[LittleVol]

Putin actually is aware. Their state media has already been preparing the Russian people for this possibility.

“Why Do We Need a World if Russia Is Not In It?”: State TV Presenter Opens Show With Ominous Address - The Moscow Times

That's what makes these threats so scary.

No. I mean Putin isn't truly persevering anything with these actions. Not even his own country. Even if he truly thinks that's what he's trying to do.

This path he is making...NOBODY will win

A Nuclear War is something that has never happened during this civilization.
And because of that, we are still here.

He himself doesn't grasp the position he has put the entire world in...

 

[FortSanders]

Joe Biden, channeling his inner Winston Churchill:
We shall quit while we are ahead. We shall fight climate change in France, we shall fight rising seas. We shall act with fear and trepidation, for fear of offending another. We shall not defend our land, nor protect our borders. We shall allow fighting, murder, and mayhem in our streets. We shall let down our guard and bestow money, nuclear weapons, and power to our enemies.
When your land, your Ukraine, or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then your allies from beyond seas shall not carry on the struggle, because we abandoned you. Ukraine will be a nation alone and on its knees. You shall surrender.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Russia helped put down the protests in Kasakhstan to protect a friendly government. Why take over when you've already got what you want?

Why not just take over and forget about working with anyone? I mean, if Putin is wanting to build another USSR, then he could have just annexed Kazakhstan at the snap of a finger when their leadership was in turmoil.

 

[Gandalf]

Mst of what they’d light up is blue country, coastal and population center. I’m willing to roll the dice.

Now, I know you are just foolin' but no more talk like that, if you please. I cant joke about America being harmed, even every one of those commie pinko bastards on the left coasts.

Besides, I still have a place in NYC

But warheads on Russia's border (or even just conventional NATO weapons) isn't of any concern for Russia?

So are there no NATO missiles in Estonia or Latvia (NATO members also on Russia border)?

 

[EasternVol]

Mst of what they’d light up is blue country, coastal and population center. I’m willing to roll the dice.

Oak Ridge? Holston Munitions? Grand Ole Opry?

 

[Matt2496]

No. I mean Putin isn't truly persevering anything with these actions. Not even his own country even if think he is...

This path he is making...NOBODY will win

A Nuclear War is something that has never happened during this civilization.
And because of that, we are still here.

He himself doesn't grasp then position he has put the entire world in...

He knows exactly what position he has put the world in and he's leveraging it as much as he can.

 

[robbymoore94]

Something I’ve been pondering. Clearly, Russia’s military isn’t as effective as many thought it was. How sure are we their nuclear weaponry has been well maintained? I feel like there’s a decent chance they end up blowing themselves up. Not that I wish that on anyone, but you see what I’m getting at?

 

[EasternVol]

Why not just take over and forget about working with anyone? I mean, if Putin is wanting to build another USSR, then he could have just annexed Kazakhstan at the snap of a finger when their leadership was in turmoil.

Costs. It's empire. Why incur the real and opportunity costs of invading / annexing a country when they're already going to do what you want without the invasion / annexation?

 

[volfanhill]

I'm just saying that if you are so emotionally moved by the violence and carnage in Ukraine, then surely, you should have been moved in Syria.

But you aren't condemning Russia on this. It's a two way street. Good lord. You are equally inconsistent. Jesus man

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

So are there no NATO missiles in Estonia or Latvia (NATO members also on Russia border)?

I have no idea if there are any there right now. The point is that the potential of placing them in the Baltic States or Ukraine would be just as provocative as Russia putting missiles in Cuba or Quebec or Monterey. Let's stop acting like we don't know what's going on here.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Something I’ve been pondering. Clearly, Russia’s military isn’t as effective as many thought it was. How sure are we their nuclear weaponry has been well maintained? I feel like there’s a decent chance they end up blowing themselves up. Not that I wish that on anyone, but you see what I’m getting at?

What makes you think that their military or nuclear arsenal is deficient? Because of what the news is saying?

 

[kiddiedoc]

Something I’ve been pondering. Clearly, Russia’s military isn’t as effective as many thought it was. How sure are we their nuclear weaponry has been well maintained? I feel like there’s a decent chance they end up blowing themselves up. Not that I wish that on anyone, but you see what I’m getting at?

Yeah, not really a Yahtzee roll I'd like to take.

 

[LittleVol]

I'm just saying that if you are so emotionally moved by the violence and carnage in Ukraine, then surely, you should have been moved in Syria.

No.
I just said i wasn't as educated on Syria's actual delima. Again, is ANYONE here or most places actually aware of the gist of the Syria crisis?? I never figured what it was from watching the news outlets...
What it truly was.

This Ukraine situation is pretty cut and dry.

 

[volfanhill]

What makes you think that their military or nuclear arsenal is deficient? Because of what the news is saying?

Lol

 

[Matt2496]

Something I’ve been pondering. Clearly, Russia’s military isn’t as effective as many thought it was. How sure are we their nuclear weaponry has been well maintained? I feel like there’s a decent chance they end up blowing themselves up. Not that I wish that on anyone, but you see what I’m getting at?

I would never, ever underestimate an adversary.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Costs. It's empire. Why incur the real and opportunity costs of invading / annexing a country when they're already going to do what you want without the invasion / annexation?

So taking over Kazakhstan is costly... but rebuilding the old USSR is part of his long term goal?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

No.
I just said i wasn't as educated on Syria's actual delima. Again, is ANYONE here or most places actually aware of the gist of the Syria crisis?? I never figured what it was from watching the news outlets...
What it truly was.

This Ukraine situation is pretty cut and dry.

Oh, but you are fully educated in this situation? With all of the propaganda floating around about The Ghost of Kyiv and Snake Island?

 

[volfanhill]

I have no idea if there are any there right now. The point is that the potential of placing them in the Baltic States or Ukraine would be just as provocative as Russia putting missiles in Cuba or Quebec or Monterey. Let's stop acting like we don't know what's going on here.

They did place them in Cuba.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Poland ain't about s^^t. This is from 2004. So no wonder they were willing to give their planes up for free. These are likely the planes that were purchased for a $1. And likely why they were going to send them back to Germany. LOL!!!

German-Polish MiG-29 Transfer Complete | DW | 05.08.2004

05.08.2004
German military officials have transferred nine MiG-29 fighter jets to Poland, completing the handover of 22 planes that started last fall. Germany had sold the jets to the Polish air force for a symbolic price of €1 ($1.20). But Poland has to spend about €43 million to modernize the planes, which will replace its own MiG-21 jets.

 

[Weezer]

Nuclear war is one way to save the planet. Eliminate all the humans and life can start anew.

 

[Matt2496]

Lol

In Ras's defense, these are the same media outlets that have lied to us repeatedly during the COVID pandemic and Trump's term. I think some skepticism is healthy but I wish he would be equally skeptical of RT.

 

[Gandalf]

Did you read the post you responded to? It's hysterical.
Rumble straight up lied.
All YouTube did was flag it with an inappropriate content warning. You can still watch it.

Not quite sure how Rumble lied?? They are ripping on google execs for removing it and what did the google flack say?
"We removed this video for violating our violent or graphic content policy, which prohibits content containing footage of corpses with massive injuries, such as severed limbs — for example, videos of beheadings," Choi explained.

BTW - full disclosure, I noted the following statement from the article:
Sean Stone, his son, was previously an anchor for RT, Russia's state-sponsored English news outlet.

Hah, told you Stone probably had this film bankrolled by some oligarch. Even so, as long as I know what angle its coming from, it is still good to have more info to make up my own mind.