War in Ukraine

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More Russian troops were killed in Ukraine in 2 weeks than U.S. troops in entire Iraq War, U.S. estimates

Russian forces continue to make inroads in southern Ukraine, but few military experts seem to think the war is going very well for Russia. The invading army has suffered "very, very significant casualties," a U.S. official told CBS News on Wednesday, putting the U.S. estimate at between 5,000 and 6,000 Russian troops killed in action. That's comparable to losses in World War II battles, the U.S. official said. It's also, as Fox News' Jacqui Heinrich notes, "more than the number of Americans killed during the Iraq War."

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Of note, USSR lost an estimated 14K troops during the entire war with Afghanistan.
 
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EasternVol said:
The point is that 'research facilities' doesn't necessarily mean 'weapons production'.
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To be fair I wouldn’t won’t Canada or Mexico to run those kind of facilities on our border . I also don’t want our fckin gov shipping monkeys with Covid around our country in unmarked and unescorted trucks .
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'm fully aware he used chemical weapons... those are the weapons we gave him in the 1980s when he was passing Iranians...

And since we armed Iraq with chemical weapons, we by proxy did use chemical weapons. Saddam had our full blessing at the time.
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He did not have our full blessing on the Kurds. By that logic, the Russians gave Syria its full blessing to use them because they helped train the Syrians on how to use them in the 70’s and 80’s
 
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vol66 said:
I missed #2. Do you think the Ukrainian military has superior weaponry to Russia? Because I’m pretty sure the US is in the Ukrainian ear? It’s hard to move the systems they’ve been given.
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We are being lead to believe that the weapons given to them Ukrainian are lethal and doing significant damage to the Russians. That is the narrative being pumped out there since this all began.
 
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TVOLS said:
I’m not sure it would be a good idea for Russia to use chemical or biological weapons. That could very well bring other countries in the War with a military response. IMO
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No s^^t it is a bad idea and would bring in more countries. That'll exactly why Nuland threw out that warning of Russia being responsible for any possible biological attacks in the future... she's prepping the ground for a false flag event that can be obviously blamed on the Russians, which would in turn motivate countries to jump on board. This is the same playbook they used in Syria against Assad.
 
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volinbham said:
The post specifically states that YouTube put that content warning on it. Nothing hysterical about that.

Now the definition YouTube uses for "inappropriate" might be laughter fodder
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This is the part that is hysterical............
"BREAKING NEWS: YouTube removed @TheOliverStone's documentary, 'Ukraine on Fire.' We believe the public should decide what it sees, not Google execs. We're proud to announce the producers uploaded the film to Rumble, enabling anyone who wishes to view it," Rumble tweeted.

Whatever Rumble is, they are definitely sensationalistic blatant liars.
 
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Gandalf said:
Not quite sure how Rumble lied?? They are ripping on google execs for removing it and what did the google flack say?
"We removed this video for violating our violent or graphic content policy, which prohibits content containing footage of corpses with massive injuries, such as severed limbs — for example, videos of beheadings," Choi explained.

BTW - full disclosure, I noted the following statement from the article:
Sean Stone, his son, was previously an anchor for RT, Russia's state-sponsored English news outlet.

Hah, told you Stone probably had this film bankrolled by some oligarch. Even so, as long as I know what angle its coming from, it is still good to have more info to make up my own mind.
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Rumble said YouTube removed it but they did not. They just added a warning. You can still watch it.
 
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Volsdeep4 said:
We all would love to live in a country that keeps it promises and isn’t shady. But let’s be honest, say there are bio labs in Ukraine that’s ours. Let’s say that why Russia invaded. It’s horrible for those citizens but to say we are the only country doing so would be a lie. Major powers all have labs and/or doing something egregious. Don’t get left behind or you will no longer be a superpower.
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Where did I ever say that? Or are you putting words in my mouth? What I've been saying is that whenever we get caught doing nefarious things, there's always a justification for it or the assumption that we only had noble and peaceful intentions. When someone else does it, it is a danger to humanity and a cause for war.

The double standard is what I'm pointing out. But pointing out double standards over the last few years has been dismissed in discourse and debates as "whataboutism".
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
No s^^t it is a bad idea and would bring in more countries. That'll exactly why Nuland threw out that warning of Russia being responsible for any possible biological attacks in the future... she's prepping the ground for a false flag event that can be obviously blamed on the Russians, which would in turn motivate countries to jump on board. This is the same playbook they used in Syria against Assad.
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Or maybe they have good reason to think Russia will use biological weapons.
 
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He did not have our full blessing on the Kurds. By that logic, the Russians gave Syria its full blessing to use them because they helped train the Syrians on how to use them in the 70’s and 80’s
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Oh, but to be clear, he did have our full blessing when he was gassing Iranians? A clear Geneva violation...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Where did I ever say that? Or are you putting words in my mouth? What I've been saying is that whenever we get caught doing nefarious things, there's always a justification for it or the assumption that we only had noble and peaceful intentions. When someone else does it, it is a danger to humanity and a cause for war.

The double standard is what I'm pointing out. But pointing out double standards over the last few years has been dismissed in discourse and debates as "whataboutism".
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So your pointing out a double standard by employing a double standard? Genius!

That genius part is sarcasm if you didn't recognize it. All you're really doing is showing yourself to be the hypocrite that you're screaming everyone else is.


The innocents that have been killed, especially the children, have you even acknowledged that blood is on Putin's hands, or are you still rambling on about how it's everyone else's fault?
 
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So your pointing out a double standard by employing a double standard? Genius!

That genius part is sarcasm if you didn't recognize it. All you're really doing is showing yourself to be the hypocrite that you're screaming everyone else is.


The innocents that have been killed, especially the children, have you even acknowledged that blood is on Putin's hands, or are you still rambling on about how it's everyone else's fault?
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The blood of Ukrainians right now is on Putin's and NATO and Ukraine's leadership. All of them share in the blame.

That word salad of yours saying I am using a double standard to justify a double standard or whatever you said is nonsense. I have no idea WTF you are talking about.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The blood of Ukrainians right now is on Putin's and NATO and Ukraine's leadership. All of them share in the blame.

That word salad of yours saying I am using a double standard to justify a double standard or whatever you said is nonsense. I have no idea WTF you are talking about.
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How are NATO and the Ukraine to blame for Putin's attack on the Ukraine? For the bombing and killing of thousands of civilians?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Good enough for the US in Syria or the Saudis in Yemen or Israelis in Lebanon...
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So are you saying none of those were justified? It sounds like that’s what you’re implying. That also implies that you know this current situation is unjustified, since you chose to make those comparisons. It’s like your subconscious knows this is all wrong.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The blood of Ukrainians right now is on Putin's and NATO and Ukraine's leadership. All of them share in the blame.

That word salad of yours saying I am using a double standard to justify a double standard or whatever you said is nonsense. I have no idea WTF you are talking about.
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Just Putin's. Whatever the U.S., NATO, or the Ukrainian leadership may have done in no way warranted a full scale Russian invasion.

And yes, when the U.S. kills innocents, it's on our leaders; hands.
 
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