War in Ukraine

[volgr]

They deserve it more than Israel or Afghanistan, who we give billions to every year....at least this year.

None of them deserve it, is the correct answer.

 

[MontyPython]

Z the symbol of Russian *greatness*, has never looked more appropriate.

 

[utvolpj]

They deserve it more than Israel or Afghanistan, who we give billions to every year....at least this year.

I deserve it more since I actually worked for it. Quit stealing

 

[luthervol]

None of them deserve it, is the correct answer.

The correct answer is Ukraine deserves it this year.

We spend tens of billions of dollars year in and year out on our defense against Russia. This 14 billion is actually money better spent.

 

[luthervol]

I deserve it more since I actually worked for it

Worked for what?

 

[landscapingvol]

So you believe Putin? I thought you didn't believe Putin? Which is it?

Mauripol wasn't destroyed overnight. Russia gave them a chance at surrender. Citizens knew and most fled. Some stayed to fight and others were held against their will by Ukrainian forces as human shields. Ukrainian forces, as usual, made use of civilian areas to stage their defense. So Russia can either go around Mauripol or root out Ukrainian forces and take the city.

You use the term genocide as if you were a child. If genocide is what they wanted, they could do that. An overnight barrage of bombing, with no warning, would have done it. However, that isn't what happened is it? Be honest for God's sake. If you say you think it wasn't worth it for Russia to take Mauripol and instead go around it, then that is a fair assessment. But to talk of genocide and acting as if Russia wanted to destroy the city, is just childish and juvenile and not representative of actual evidence of events.

Yes I am the one speaking as a child Is this where you try to argue Russian is an ethnic group even though Russia and Ukraine are composed of the same ethnic group eastern Slavic? Based off of what exactly am I supposed to believe that Russia has this massive, highly capable military? Debating with you is like debating with a fence post

 

[utvolpj]

Worked for what?

The tax dollars you want to send to foreign countries

 

[OHvol40]

I had a little of that feeling watching the thermal imaging video of the tanks being blown up at night (a few pages back). I can pretty much guarantee you those soldiers didn't want to be sitting there hiding in the forest waiting for missiles to rain down.

It’s never the decision-makers who suffer most from war.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

The article was linked in a tweet talking about how the west, who has been full of sh1t up to this point, is finally starting to tell the truth in how Russia is operating this war. Which is to spare civilian lives at all costs. Russia has had to lay waste to some parts of cities, but it isnt because they wanted to.
Be honest, if you can.

I think the bulk of the Russian soldiers don't want to smash the cities to the ground. But, Puddin orders it out of utter frustration. He expected the mighty armada he assembled to make Ukraine tremble in their socks, roll over and play dead while he smirked. But those doggone Ukies put up a fight and bloodied Puddin's nose. knocked out a few teeth, and spat in his face. Now, shocked, humiliated, and rage-filled, he's in an, "I'll make you S.O.B's regret this." That's why they're leveling cities now, killing civilians, kidnapping and shipping civilians to Russia, and who knows what else. All the while, his YES men whisper into his ear about how great he is.

 

[volgr]

Yes I am the one speaking as a child Is this where you try to argue Russian is an ethnic group even though Russia and Ukraine are composed of the same ethnic group eastern Slavic? Based off of what exactly am I supposed to believe that Russia has this massive, highly capable military? Debating with you is like debating with a fence post

You have not debated with me. You make ridiculous assertions, I factually rebut them and you respond by talking about the ethnicities of Russians which has nothing to do with your original assertions or my response.

 

[volgr]

I think the bulk of the Russian soldiers don't want to smash the cities to the ground. But, Puddin orders it out of utter frustration.

Wrong assumptions lead to wrong conclusions.

 

[volgr]

The correct answer is Ukraine deserves it this year.

We spend tens of billions of dollars year in and year out on our defense against Russia. This 14 billion is actually money better spent.

How much have you personally given to Ukraine? Or are we back to you wanting others to do what you personally will not do?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I don't think giving them 4 times more money in one year than we give Israel or Afghanistan every single year is that big of a deal. My bigger question is why do we give those countries BILLIONS EVERY YEAR,

Funny, I ranted about the same thing in your last sentence 5 years ago, kudos Luther.

 

[MontyPython]

McDonalds in Russia just don't seem the same since Uncle Vlad took over management.

 

[allvol123]

Yes, it was not received well, lol. I'm having too much fun with these low IQ sheep.

This is your running mate @Rasputin_Vol

bwahaaaa rofl.

 

[luthervol]

The tax dollars you want to send to foreign countries

We all worked for the hundreds of billions we spend on defense.
I'm happier to see my money used in this way.

2023 Defense budget - $800,000,000,000 (800 billion)

 

[utvolpj]

We all worked for the hundreds of billions we spend on defense.
I'm happier to see my money used in this way.

2023 Defense budget - $800,000,000,000 (800 billion)

Sending money to Ukraine, Israel or Afg is not defense.

No one is surprised you are fine with big govt spending everyone else's money

 

[luthervol]

How much have you personally given to Ukraine? Or are we back to you wanting others to do what you personally will not do?

lol.....I pay plenty in taxes
800 billion - 2023 defense budget. Of that 800 billion, I am happiest with the 14 billion to Ukraine.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

US to take in up to 100K Ukrainian refugees, sanction more Russian officials, defense companies

 

[luthervol]

Sending money to Ukraine, Israel or Afg is not defense.

No one is surprised you are fine with big govt spending everyone else's money

It is defense in the case with Ukraine.

800 billion!!!!?????

And many would claim it is the case with Israel and Afghanistan.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Wrong assumptions lead to wrong conclusions.

I cannot say that I don't disagree with you.

Russian soldier ran over commander with tank in protest

 

[KB5252]

In all fairness, most people seem to latch on to what they want and follow sources they are going to agree with.

I've asked for his sources so I could review what he's seeing. I have an open mind and my opinions are always changing. He responded with a half assed, canned answer about how I wouldn't like his sources. It's a damn clown show, I'm still open but I know better than to keep asking. I've asked on at least three occasions trying to give the benefit of the doubt. I wouldn't waste my time in I were you, an excercize in futility.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[hog88]

I had a little of that feeling watching the thermal imaging video of the tanks being blown up at night (a few pages back). I can pretty much guarantee you those soldiers didn't want to be sitting there hiding in the forest waiting for missiles to rain down.

They could always turn their tanks around and point them at the real enemy of Russia.

 

[volgr]

US to take in up to 100K Ukrainian refugees, sanction more Russian officials, defense companies

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