War in Ukraine

[85SugarVol]

I came across this video of a battlefield size nuclear weapon I've never seen before. It kind of gives you a sense of scale. I didn't realize smaller nukes wouldn't develop a mushroom cloud. Anyway:

1 Kiloton Nuclear Bomb Detonated

Edit: I missed that it was a subsurface test so I guess this doesn't show full effects.

So that would be ~ 100 MOABs dropped at once.

What was the fallout like with those “little” ones?

 

[Septic]

I live in Memphis. Have been a patron of St. Jude for over a decade now.

I thought it was funny.

What part?

 

[apevol]

They have no shame or common sense. Most of these idiots post Ukrainian propaganda on the daily.

You literally spew distortions meant to stoke fear in the hearts of babushkas back home and think its dead nuts accurate. Come off it.

 

[Septic]

Please enlighten us voljar. Why did Russia invade Ukraine?

Probably wanted to get in before they could defend themselves.

HAHAHAHAHA!

dummy.

 

[85SugarVol]

What part?

I’ve been in Midtown now for 12 years

 

[DonjoVol]

I found out earlier this week I am a moderate.

By the way I was using that term sarcastically. There are these "moderates" on here that never seem to criticize a certain political party.

 

[allvol123]

You are so pathetic and transparent. Russia didn't invade under false pretenses. Also, "whatever means necessary" is your justification for basically excusing any Ukrainian atrocity while holding Russia to the strictest of standards.

I have to remind myself, there are people that believe humans have not been on the moon.

 

[Septic]

I’ve been in Midtown now for 12 years

oh word? I went to Idlewild elementary and lived near Overton square.

 

[KB5252]

I'd be shocked if there weren't a few NATO snake eaters embedded with the Ukrainian SF.

It's not even fair, pooty sending these poor kids in rusty tin cans into a land they don't want to be in, fighting an enemy that they don't hate just to get walloped by an nlaw while they desperately try to stay warm.

Whattadick.

My brother who has some old school buddies who were special forces said something like this to me a couple of days ago.

Says a lot of the "retired" guys do contract work after they are discharged.

 

[Gandalf]

McRib is always quick to agree with me BUT only when I am casting aspersions on myself.

Yes, that is why it is best to leave casting of all sorts to wizards.

 

[volgr]

Big if true...

 

[85SugarVol]

oh word? As a young Septic, I went to Idlewild elementary and lived near Overton square.

We almost bought a house right there at Madison & Cooper right off the Square when we were young and childless lol.

Ended up in Central Gardens, kinda right between Cooper Young and Overton Square. We really love Midtown.

 

[Gandalf]

Big if true...

Excellent! Ukraine has been de-nazified. Everyone can go home then, right?

 

[luthervol]

Big if true...

Maybe that's the cover Putin is needing to withdraw and declare victory.

 

[USF grad in TN]

Big if true...

Everyone can go home now. No more Nazis.

 

[volgr]

Excellent! Ukraine has been de-nazified. Everyone can go home then, right?

Part of it seems to have been. Need to finish up Donbass and continue de-militarization before everyone can go home.

 

[hog88]

Excellent! Ukraine has been de-nazified. Everyone can go home then, right?

If that was Putin's goal he can withdraw his forces.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

Snake Island sailors are freed as Ukraine and Russia conduct a prisoner exchange

 

[85SugarVol]

My brother who has some old school buddies who were special forces said something like this to me a couple of days ago.

Says a lot of the "retired" guys do contract work after they are discharged.

My father worked at multiple US Embassy locations throughout the late 90’s into early 00’s (Beijing, Moscow, Nairobi, Berlin).

It is not at all uncommon to see former operators hanging around US State Dept locations - looking for “work”

 

[landscapingvol]

Big if true...

That should do it then comrade, they can go back to mother Russia now!

 

[landscapingvol]

Part of it seems to have been. Need to finish up Donbass and continue de-militarization before everyone can go home.

Translation: need to remove Ukrain’s defensive capabilities so Russia can do whatever it wants to do in Ukraine

 

[landscapingvol]

You are so pathetic and transparent. Russia didn't invade under false pretenses. Also, "whatever means necessary" is your justification for basically excusing any Ukrainian atrocity while holding Russia to the strictest of standards.

Go ahead and give us all the justification for Russia invading Ukraine, I will hang up and listen

 

[825VOL]

Part of it seems to have been. Need to finish up Donbass and continue de-militarization before everyone can go home.

Sure everyone can go home, right after Russia gives up all Ukrainian land including the Crimea and the so-called breakaway republics.

 

[NCFisher]

I was not yelling it at the drop of a hat. The ultranationalist and neo Nazi sentiment of some in Ukraine is well documented. I'm also aware of the ultranationalist groups in Russia. But I haven't seen them attacking groups of people like the Ossetians or even Ukrainians who live in Russia. Like some Ukrainians have done with Russians since 2014. I still don't agree with ultranationalism as that tends to lead to racism and hatred towards other groups of people.

Now I have called out on more than one occasion of the Russian government targeting Jehovah Witnesses and claiming they are an extremist group. Calling them an extremist group is nonsense. But JWs are against nationalism, serving in the military, and many of their religious views conflict with the Russian Orthodox Church. I seem to be the only one in here bringing attention to that matter.

Perhaps because Russia doesn't stand for other countries to sow and support separatist groups in Russia, as they do in other countries.

We've gone over this; "well-documented" by whom, in a world in which deviating from the left evokes "Nazi!"? I find PLENTY of allusion to that but don't find it compelling evidence.

I gave a brief history of OUN, including their collaboration with Germany to rid the country of Poles, Russians, etc., who had ruled and abused them. How they saw Germany as liberators which lasted about one month until Bandera was tossed into the clink and then Sachsenhausen concentration camp until Sept. 1944. Bandera didn't hate Russia because he was a devotee of Nazism, but of Ukraine; I don't ***** blame him.

It's a girthy topic, but essentially did the nationalists kill Russians and Poles because Ukrainians were Nazis? Of course not. To the degree they were antisemitic, it appears based in that Jews supported the Muscovite rule, and not an independent Ukraine. The Germans concluded OUN and UPA (Ukrainian Insurgent Army begat by OUN) were indifferent to Jews, and would alternately kill, shelter, or employ them as best served nationalist aims.

Wikipedia is an easily accessible, leftist org. I expect them to call OUN, Bandera, UPA, Azov 'Nazis' and imply the Ukrainian government has a 'Nazi problem' and they oblige on all counts. But, even their pages don't support the Nazi allusions they make. Like science, truth isn't a democracy that a mob of implication can overwhelm by sheer numbers. Here's a handful I urge people to read for themselves, my dog isn't fighting:
Stepan Bandera - Wikipedia
Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists - Wikipedia
Azov Battalion - Wikipedia

 

[volgr]

Great explanation from Scott Ritter, former UN weapons inspector, regarding Russia's attempt to limit civilian casualties...video starts where he is explaining it, give it a 20 minute listen.