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#177
#177
UTProf said:
I googled it. Apparently 15-minute cities are a concept wherein cities try to create neighborhoods where everything you need is within 15 mins (especially walking or biking) of where you live. At present there are a ton of cities that suffer from so much sprawl that you could be really far away from school, work, and even groceries.

Just as an example, I know food insecurity can be a problem in a lot of modern American cities because you have neighborhoods without easy access to full sized grocery stores or markets and large populations that have to rely on public transportation. As such you have young families relying on pagoda's and small stalls for groceries which is less than ideal not only because of selection but also because of prices (imagine doing your grocery shopping out of the smallest convenience store you've ever been in).

The concept apparently isn't new at all. Portland, Oregon developed planning back in 2012 but the idea goes back much farther so I'm not sure why it's getting traction now.

Here's the wiki entry on the concept:
15-minute city - Wikipedia

Basically, it's just urban planning. And it makes sense in today's world given that many of our cities were planned around heavy industry for so long. Back then it made sense that you didn't want the meat packing and garment districts anywhere near residential areas and so things were planned that way. Things are different today and with heavy industry mostly outside of cities it makes sense that you take a more family friendly route to planning. I'm sure like anything else it can be abused but that's the gist of the concept.
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How are they going to force companies to open stores in areas that loot and burn?
 
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Nothing wrong with the concept of 15 minute cities. Many urban areas are already essentially like that. I've always enjoyed how European towns are built with walkability or excellent mass transit. Although it's what we're used to, American sprawl isn't efficient or good for building community, and even the community we once had has been substantially lost in the last 30-40 years. That hasn't made us better.

With that said, when 15 minute cities become a form of control that some would use to deprive us of freedoms in the interest of "saving the planet", we got issues. When the only difference between me and someone in jail is the size of the cell, there will be a fight.

Like virtually everything, balance is necessary. Progress is good, but either extreme is destructive. Yes, right wing brothers, our 3 ton gas-drinking pickups are probably not sustainable long term. And yes, left wing brothers, I'll fight you for the right to continue driving mine until there is an equally capable and yet cost effective alternative.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
prob a condition of surrender.
crazy that Hiroshima didnt raise white flag, that it took Nagasaki to do it. Its like 'maaaaybe that could be Tokyo...naaah.' 'Wait.'
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I read somewhere decades ago, the Nipponese thought the first bomb as actually a natural event, such as maybe a volcano explosion. Can't recall the book title. It also claimed the USA already had deciphered Japan's code system. And knew Pearl Harbor was a target. Thus, the reason the aircraft carriers, Enterprise, Lexington, and Saratoga were assigned missions that kept them away from PH to avoid destruction. I recall the book having photos of memorandums detailing this. I had and have my doubts about this. I think the USA has enjoyed either pure dumb luck or divine intervention throughout its history. There are some things that utterly defy logic. Including the 1814 storm, of which the description suggests was a tornado that messed up the Brits attempt to burn Washington DC to the ground. Anyway, it is possible the Nipponese thought such a massive blast just couldn't be man-made, so opted to not surrender at that point. The second bomb made it obvious the US had a weapon heretofore unseen, so surrender was the only option.
 
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Have you guys ever read magazines and newspapers from the WWII era as it was happening? They thought we were just sending ships to help defend England when it was actually for Dday in a copy of life magazine.

They’ve always lie to us, in that case they surely did it for the right reasons. But I’m sure there’s far more cases of this for the wrong reasons.



Since we’re on conspiracy theories right now.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
Have you guys ever read magazines and newspapers from the WWII era as it was happening? They thought we were just sending ships to help defend England when it was actually for Dday in a copy of life magazine.

They’ve always lie to us, in that case they surely did it for the right reasons. But I’m sure there’s far more cases of this for the wrong reasons.

Since we’re on conspiracy theories right now.
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That's a permanent state of affairs for mass consumption "news" media. Accurate real time information is much too valuable to be freely dispensed to the general public. It's not about right or wrong reasons, just about the way things are.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
Have you guys ever read magazines and newspapers from the WWII era as it was happening? They thought we were just sending ships to help defend England when it was actually for Dday in a copy of life magazine.

They’ve always lie to us, in that case they surely did it for the right reasons. But I’m sure there’s far more cases of this for the wrong reasons.



Since we’re on conspiracy theories right now.
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Get out of town, seriously?

It’s a matter of national security, your feelings or your right to know delusions aren’t even on their radar. I deal with it daily.
 
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#193
Christian Lowe said:
Sorry massa agent. I won’t agitate your cathedral to the state no mo’ massa. I am truly sorry.
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He is right...to a degree...and you know it. The problem os all the stuff that goes beyond "to a degree"....how do you maintain much needed national security needed secrecy without it being abused?

This will always be a ongoing problem...there is no good answer
 
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hog88 said:
WTH? What was the discussion that got dumped over here?
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I am like

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Ulysees E. McGill said:
He is right...to a degree...and you know it. The problem os all the stuff that goes beyond "to a degree"....how do you maintain much needed national security needed secrecy without it being abused?

This will always be a ongoing problem...there is no good answer
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That I can agree with. WWII was a noble war so it’s a bad example, but what about all the lies in the needless wars after? Korea, Vietnam, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Iran, Grenada, Kuwait… and on and on and on.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
That I can agree with. WWII was a noble war so it’s a bad example, but what about all the lies in the needless wars after? Korea, Vietnam, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Iran, Grenada, Kuwait… and on and on and on.
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The US likes to pretend that we're an Altruistic nation, and we're only using our military to help people. The truth is we're one of the most warfaring countries ever in history. In fact, we have probably killed more people than any other country in the history of the world.
 
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VolStrom said:
The US likes to pretend that we're an Altruistic nation, and we're only using our military to help people. The truth is we're one of the most warfaring countries ever in history. In fact, we have probably killed more people than any other country in the history of the world.
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Ron Paul has warned us about a great many things that are about to finally come back to bite us.

Of the many, one was “listen to why they hate us. It’s not because we’re “free,” it’s because we kill their families without blinking.”

Another was the Fed Reserve.

Both were prophetic.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
Ron Paul has warned us about a great many things that are about to finally come back to bite us.

Of the many, one was “listen to why they hate us. It’s not because we’re “free,” it’s because we kill their families without blinking.”

Another was the Fed Reserve.

Both were prophetic.
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Ron Paul reissues claims on American policy and 9/11 – CNN Political Ticker

And people hated him for it.


Edit; as a libertarian, it’s funny that the right wing was the one who used to attack anti-war sentiment.

Now it’s the left.

Free speech has become a right wing issue now as well. The idiots didn’t have the foresight to realize their “patriot act” would be used against them.
 
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VolStrom said:
The US likes to pretend that we're an Altruistic nation, and we're only using our military to help people. The truth is we're one of the most warfaring countries ever in history. In fact, we have probably killed more people than any other country in the history of the world.
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🦬💩 go live somewhere else you US hating 🤬
 
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