Was it even worth it Tressel?

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I mean you have a top 5 team every yr. You are earning bcs checks every yr. You win your conference ever yr. You beat your top rival every yr. You have a National Title and your legacy is set. Was it worth throwing all that away for one season. Because no way you had to think this wouldn't get out. Not in todays media times. If you would have kicked those guys off the team and had a 7-5 yr the osu fans would have understood and just blamed the ncaa for unfair rules then you would get the ball roling for this season. It just seems silly that you would do this. Even if you win the National title last yr it would have been stripped. So there is no benefit for what you did.
 
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There's an old sayin'-Where there's one rat, there's 50. First time found out doesn't mean first time ever did anything.
 
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Slydell said:
There's an old sayin'-Where there's one rat, there's 50. First time found out doesn't mean first time ever did anything.
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Yeah, maybe he had been covering up the whole time at osu and maybe he is in too deep to just turn anybody in.
 
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My guess is that nearly every D-IA champ going back for decades and decades has some skeletons in their closet that would get their titles stripped. You gotta break the rules to win it all, that's the way college football goes.
 
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milohimself said:
My guess is that nearly every D-IA champ going back for decades and decades has some skeletons in their closet that would get their titles stripped. You gotta break the rules to win it all, that's the way college football goes.
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But this move by Tressel was just stupid.
 
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milohimself said:
My guess is that nearly every D-IA champ going back for decades and decades has some skeletons in their closet that would get their titles stripped. You gotta break the rules to win it all, that's the way college football goes.
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Yep, it's not isolated by any means. Football or basketball.
 
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milohimself said:
It was, but if you think there's a championship-caliber coach in America that wouldn't have done something similar, you're fooling yourself.
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I understand the argument, but I don't necessarily agree with this. The violation as silly and not worth it. OSU could have started 5-0 if those players had been suspended.
 
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OSU didn't need those players anyway. If you're not in the bcs champ game all other bowls don't matter. what does it matter what bcs game you go to? They instead of 12-1 sugar bowl and eventually stripped they would have been 10-3 ( because no way they win any bcs bowl withouth those players obviously) and still go to a bcs game and have a good season. Tressel would have even gotten credit for doing the right thing and doing his best oaching job ever after dismantling the team. It just was silly. I still think he was just in too deep with covering up a lot more over the years and once you do that you always have to cover up.
 
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He could've handled it alot different but I hate tOSU and hope Tressel gets ripped a new one..
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skyhawk_vol said:
He could've handled it alot different but I hate tOSU and hope Tressel gets ripped a new one..
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I don't see any way he doesn't have to leave osu if they know what's good for them. because they are gonna get at least what usc got and a little more. No top coach is going into that situation.
 
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Hubris, same as Pearl. Being a highly regarded college coach is like being a little emperor. It's why Saban came back; it's why Bobby Petrino's tiny nutsack shriveled and tightened up when he was asked to coach real men in a real city and he went shrieking back into the boondocks. Successful big-school college coaches are used to getting everything they want from almost everybody they meet. They get out of the habit of doing things that are retrograde to their wishes. Tressel did what he felt like was the right thing -- because it was what he wanted to be the right thing. And now he's screwed. Deservedly.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Hubris, same as Pearl. Being a highly regarded college coach is like being a little emperor. It's why Saban came back; it's why Bobby Petrino's tiny nutsack shriveled and tightened up when he was asked to coach real men in a real city and he went shrieking back into the boondocks. Successful big-school college coaches are used to getting everything they want from almost everybody they meet. They get out of the habit of doing things that are retrograde to their wishes. Tressel did what he felt like was the right thing -- because it was what he wanted to be the right thing. And now he's screwed. Deservedly.
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Yeah, you got a point I never thought about. Even coaches who are honest are emperor like. Look at Joepa. How do you tell your bosses they can't fire you and you will quit when you fee like it. This was when he was losing every year. So yeah it's very easy to think you are untouchable. Especially if you are the reason the program is making tons of money and is a top 5 program. It may be a little different if you inherit a good program. But In Tressels case he fits all the criteria to get the big head and he totally deserves to be fired, forced to resign, ran out of cfb, whatever they feel is right. Coaches have to learn they are not kings or emperors.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Hubris, same as Pearl. Being a highly regarded college coach is like being a little emperor. It's why Saban came back; it's why Bobby Petrino's tiny nutsack shriveled and tightened up when he was asked to coach real men in a real city and he went shrieking back into the boondocks. Successful big-school college coaches are used to getting everything they want from almost everybody they meet. They get out of the habit of doing things that are retrograde to their wishes. Tressel did what he felt like was the right thing -- because it was what he wanted to be the right thing. And now he's screwed. Deservedly.
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I'd say Petrino also came back because he knew he was going to be fired eventually. I'd say he only left because the situation at Louisville was going to get messy.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I'd say Petrino also came back because he knew he was going to be fired eventually. I'd say he only left because the situation at Louisville was going to get messy.
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He went to Atlanta for a fat check. He left when he realized Vick was about the only thing the O had going for it and he wasn't going to be able to recruit criminals.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Hubris, same as Pearl. Being a highly regarded college coach is like being a little emperor. It's why Saban came back; it's why Bobby Petrino's tiny nutsack shriveled and tightened up when he was asked to coach real men in a real city and he went shrieking back into the boondocks. Successful big-school college coaches are used to getting everything they want from almost everybody they meet. They get out of the habit of doing things that are retrograde to their wishes. Tressel did what he felt like was the right thing -- because it was what he wanted to be the right thing. And now he's screwed. Deservedly.
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This is why Jimmy Johnson left the Cowboys like he did.
 
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justingroves said:
He definitely should be in the top 3.
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There are guys I'd have to rank higher if you're just looking at the college level, and guys I'd have to rank hire just looking at the pros, but as far as the combination, he may just be out in front of everyone. Only longevity keeps him from being mentioned with some of the other greats.

In addition to his National Championship at Miami in '87, I believe he was one win away in '85, '86, and '88, and the team he left won the title in '89 and '91, and was won win away in '90 and '92. Erickson deserves a lot of credit, too, but I think Johnson could have at least matched him.
 
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justingroves said:
This is why Jimmy Johnson left the Cowboys like he did.
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I'd also say that the lifestyle of a winning coach isn't as stressful as some think. Saban, Meyer, Tressel( before this) Miles, Stoops can do whatever they want as long as they don't get caught cheating. They have time to spend with their families and they live like royalty as well. They dictate to the town and school what happens. Most college coaches look young and energetic. NFL coaches look worn out. Even the best ones. When they get fired it's almost like a relief. College coaches hate that they run a town or state then have to leave. But Tressel deserve4s to be fired. :salute:
 
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I think a lot more coaches would actually prefer the NFL. College coaches may be treated like Kings, but they still have to recruit, deal with boosters, etc. The NFL also offers more money and is simply the highest level. Winning the Super Bowl beats winning a national title. If you're looking for a reason for most of those guys coming back to college, I'd point to the difficulty level for the main reason.
 
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Hey did anyone else catch Jon Grudens comment last night during the draft.....they were talking about Cameron Heyward being picked and Gruden says...."I just got done spending a week at Ohio State and they raved about Heyward..." something to that effect, now why was he in Columbus for???
 
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