Wasn't Tennessee listed as the best job

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douglas67 said:
I think a Lot of people would agree with John Adams. I have said this before. When you treat Fulmer in the manner he was treated, it's not a good place to coach. I, like the next guy, thought it was time for him to go. But their is a classy way to do it. Phil and his family were dragged to the curb, beat, kicked and spit on. When you are a Tennessee native, student, and long time coach and get treated that way, Who in their right ****ing mind would want this job?
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Chavis and Cutcliff carried Fulmer for years. The only good thing I can say about Fulmer is that he was a good recruiter. Lets talk about how Fulmer did Johnny Majors. Nobody seems to remember that . A little knife in the back while Johnny was having heart trouble.
 
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ReelfootVol said:
Chavis and Cutcliff carried Fulmer for years. The only good thing I can say about Fulmer is that he was a good recruiter. Lets talk about how Fulmer did Johnny Majors. Nobody seems to remember that . A little knife in the back while Johnny was having heart trouble.
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Karma is a B.. It caught up to Phil...
 
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Fijivol72 said:
available? I believe it was from a writer who blogs for ESPN. If that is true are we truly bottom fishing again? I thought money wasn't going to be an issue. BTW Jimmy Sexton is the worst thing to happen to UT, I believe he is a Finebaum.:banghead2:
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The other three did not exactly hire what most people would consider good football coaches. Arkansas probably did the best of the three and then Auburn. UK had the biggest reach. I would not have hired any of those three. We will do better than them, even if it is Strong.
 
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Cartervol said:
I'd personally take Gundy, Petrino, Patterson or a few others before i would have offered Strong.. I bet they probably did.. So we're at about the 4th or 5th choice... He's solid, but it's a dud as far as splash... Tennessee needed splash...
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I'm thinking we gauged interest from Fisher and Mora Jr. Interviewed Gundy, Strong and Fedora. With those 3 being in order of interest as far as AD goes.

Strong is one of the hottest names out there, so it will be a bigger splash than a lot here want to admit. Although it is not as big as it could have been or people wanted. But in my eyes a lot bigger hire than Dooley, a lot bigger.

That's my opinion though.
 
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Cartervol said:
I'd personally take Gundy, Petrino, Patterson or a few others before i would have offered Strong.. I bet they probably did.. So we're at about the 4th or 5th choice... He's solid, but it's a dud as far as splash... Tennessee needed splash...
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I don't entirely disagree on Petrino and Patterson. Gundy is the name that scares me. Strong has always been #3 on my list. He was probably my #1 reasonable choice before I started getting the Gruden info that I have gotten.
 
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ReelfootVol said:
Chavis and Cutcliff carried Fulmer for years. The only good thing I can say about Fulmer is that he was a good recruiter. Lets talk about how Fulmer did Johnny Majors. Nobody seems to remember that . A little knife in the back while Johnny was having heart trouble.
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Yea, He Did Johnny wrong!! So that gives everybody the right to treat Phil that way? After all, Phil was the better coach. And now it was Chavis and Cutcliffe that carried Phil. It's people like you, why this isnt a good place to coach!! We could hire Jesus Christ himself and you would not be happy!!
 
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Petrino would not be that bad in my opinion. Lets remember, we are not a pastor search committee, we are wanting a football coach. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. A man is still a human , even if he is a football coach. If you know what I mean. How many of YOU have done similar things in your life. Only kept them quiet !!!!
 
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not every coach wants to come into a situatione where you are at a recruiting disadvantage with your major competition within the league, are coaching against some of the best college coaches around, and have a couple of years to get it turned around and win 9-10 games before you are run out of town.

People talk about money and facilities, but many coaches are not going to chase the dollar anymore.
 
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ReelfootVol said:
Petrino would not be that bad in my opinion. Lets remember, we are not a pastor search committee, we are wanting a football coach. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. A man is still a human , even if he is a football coach. If you know what I mean. How many of YOU have done similar things in your life. Only kept them quiet !!!!
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It isn't about his penis....it is about the very poor judgement displayed in the HR category. That was a killer.
 
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Lexvol said:
I don't entirely disagree on Petrino and Patterson. Gundy is the name that scares me. Strong has always been #3 on my list. He was probably my #1 reasonable choice before I started getting the Gruden info that I have gotten.
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I never thought Gruden was much of a possibility.. I'm fine if it's Strong... Dave Hart doesn't impress though in how he handled this coaching search...
 
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Doolittle 1720 said:
The thud you hear is the program hitting rock bottom.
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How many different versions of rock bottom do we need to hit?

1. Dooley hired
2. Loss to Kentucky
3. 700+ yards given up to Troy
4. Worst defense in TN history
5. One of the worst in SEC history (6 SEC games of 35+ points, or whatever it was)
6. Lose by 20+ to Vandy
7. This coaching search (TBD)
 
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IhateGA said:
It's getting embarrassing again. Hart is a joke. We will end up with some Mac coach or bringing Phil back.
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You are exactly correct.. We will end up with a lower level coach. So, in essense, we fired Dooley and paid out $5,000,000 to him just to hire someone from East Carolina, Marshall, Southern Miss. or Grambling to be our coach...

I am telling you, there is something about this program that causes most coaches to not be interested in it...
 
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Lexvol said:
I don't think there is any need to panic.
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I haven't exactly figured out what is different from yesterday that is causing half our members to act like panicky old women. These people must be the worst poker players on planet Earth.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
available? I believe it was from a writer who blogs for ESPN. If that is true are we truly bottom fishing again? I thought money wasn't going to be an issue. BTW Jimmy Sexton is the worst thing to happen to UT, I believe he is a Finebaum.:banghead2:
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder..or somethin like that
 
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GAVol said:
I haven't exactly figured out what is different from yesterday that is causing half our members to act like panicky old women. These people must be the worst poker players on planet Earth.
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Other teams signed coaches.
 
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Let's not kick the bucket yet. There are still some great coaches out there that have not been taken:

Tressell: Has some issues (has to sit 5 games and a 1 year bowl ban), but might come if enough $$$ is offered

Petrino: Morality issues off the field (and had AU pay his girlfriend a $20,000 bonus), but he can coach

Fedora: Not as well known and does not have as much D1 experience as I would like to see. With right DC???

Strong: Not totally out of the picture yet, but no experience as HC with a major D1 program

Gundy: Not my first choice, but with the right assistants??? Possibly the best choice

And remember, there are a number of great coaches who might be lured to the hill with the right incentives. We don't know what Hart has been given the "green light" to do in his search, and rightly so. If we knew what kind of package he is qualified to offer, the coaches would too.

I'm sure a Saben, Meyer, Spurrier level coach would be offered more than a Strong, Fedora, Gundy level hire. If the coaching candidates knew the pot Hart has to work with, even the lower ranked coaches would use that knowledge to leverage a greater compensation package. So, let's just be patient for a little while longer.

GBO! ><>
 
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Rudy123 said:
You are exactly correct.. We will end up with a lower level coach. So, in essense, we fired Dooley and paid out $5,000,000 to him just to hire someone from East Carolina, Marshall, Southern Miss. or Grambling to be our coach...

I am telling you, there is something about this program that causes most coaches to not be interested in it...
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It is called STRESS and PRESSURE TO WIN every game.
 
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No way I want Strong - went 7-6 first two seasons in crap conference. I will take Gundy, he had best record in Big 12 other than Oklahoma over the last few years, which is pretty impressive at OSU.
 
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I won't lie, I'm a little nervous but at the same time optimistic. I would rather Hart hire the right guy instead of hiring quickly.

I think there are some serious issues high up though and those need to change to make this a top tier job.
 
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mgv said:
No way I want Strong - went 7-6 first two seasons in crap conference. I will take Gundy, he had best record in Big 12 other than Oklahoma over the last few years, which is pretty impressive at OSU.
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He definitely played better competition...
 
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Lexvol said:
And...Of all the coaches hired so far..Uk has actually done the best, IMO.
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I like Gus. I like the thought of a mobile qb. Also saw him outcoach kiffin with an undermanned team in our house. Get a D that can hold teams under 28 and he can outscore them. Aub and a & m offenses will give them a chance in every game, imo.
 
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I'm beginning to think some of you people are simply not intelligent. Some of you take every single thing you hear on this board as truth and develop these fantasies, and literally call for everyone to be fired. The longer we maintain this instability the longer we will be irrelevant in the SEC.
 
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Hart/UT wasn't pursuing any of the coaches that Arkie, Auburn, and UK hired, so why are people so upset? Beliema is a good hire for Arkie, to be sure, but Malzahn has only 1 year of HC experience at Arkie St, and Mark Stoops has zero HC experience, so I daresay that Vol fans would have strung Hart in effigy if he had hired either of those last 2.
 
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