We are behind on this current class....

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g8terh8ter_eric

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After reading the GVX article on Thruman, whose still very interested in us, the way he made it sound today is that we haven't really got all the homework done on all the 2011 prospects. Coach Hiestand told him that because they had to recruit so hard and so long for the 2010 class, that it's not been easy to catch up with the 2011 class.

So, with that being said, this situation wasn't the coaches fault, it was instead a clerical error within the recruiting office which is full of administrative assistants who don't know Trip from anyone else yet. Also, we hadn't even contacted him yet, according to the article. So, for those that punished the coaches, you might want to rethink what you know, because Kiffin put us so far behind the 8-ball in the 2011 class the way he left and the time he left, that it's causing us issues.

We will be fine, the coaches are working hard, and prospects are being contacted as they are coming across the desks of the coaches.

Here's a link to the article so you might read more than my opinion of course.....

OL Thurman still interested in UT despite mix-up GoVolsXtra

All is well in Big Orange Country.

Also, seems like he gave it more of an effort than Volquest let on in their article, which makes me realize that I was wrong to question the motives of the kid. I was wrong about that, but others were wrong about the coaches as well.
 
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Thats the way I have been looking at things lately. The only Coaches that could be up to par on UT recruits would be Thompson and Chaney. I do not know if they could even extend a scholarship offer without Dooley's final ok.
 
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Dooley has to get his recruiting office shaped up. No excuse for what happened. It's his responsibility.
 
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Lord Vader said:
Dooley has to get his recruiting office shaped up. No excuse for what happened. It's his responsibility.
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This.

Somehow I knew eric would put it all on Kiffin. I honestly don't buy that crap from Hiestand. They've been in there for over 4 months. NSD was at the beginning of February. What have they been doing for the past 3 months? The "getting organized" excuse is getting old ... quick.
 
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Little "mix-ups" can cause major problems and in terms of recruiting, loss of a commitment.

...“He was just surprised,” Thurman said of his father. “It didn’t seem like a big-time school like Tennessee could get something mixed up like that."...

That's not very comforting.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
After reading the GVX article on Thruman, whose still very interested in us, the way he made it sound today is that we haven't really got all the homework done on all the 2011 prospects. Coach Hiestand told him that because they had to recruit so hard and so long for the 2010 class, that it's not been easy to catch up with the 2011 class.

So, with that being said, this situation wasn't the coaches fault, it was instead a clerical error within the recruiting office which is full of administrative assistants who don't know Trip from anyone else yet. Also, we hadn't even contacted him yet, according to the article. So, for those that punished the coaches, you might want to rethink what you know, because Kiffin put us so far behind the 8-ball in the 2011 class the way he left and the time he left, that it's causing us issues.

We will be fine, the coaches are working hard, and prospects are being contacted as they are coming across the desks of the coaches.

Here's a link to the article so you might read more than my opinion of course.....

OL Thurman still interested in UT despite mix-up GoVolsXtra

All is well in Big Orange Country.

Also, seems like he gave it more of an effort than Volquest let on in their article, which makes me realize that I was wrong to question the motives of the kid. I was wrong about that, but others were wrong about the coaches as well.
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I call BS on this isn't the coaches fault. We have La Tech clowns running a bigtime program and we are going to pay dearly for it. 4 months in and they don't have a clue. Mclain and now Thurman yet you apologist are still in denial. WTF is the question even the blind should be asking about the brilliant organizational skills of DD. Say what you want but at least our last staff had a clue who people were and worked night and day to make recruiting happen. I personally believe this staff is lazy!!! To busy spouting character, talk, talk, talk. Read the article for yourself and ask how the hell this could happen and then have you say it isn't the coaches fault, hell they should be beating this kids door down instead they aren't organized yet, that is what you get with a no credential RC at La. Tech (joseph) just not up to SEC standards and fans should be screaming for the coaches to get their damn act together.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
I call BS on this isn't the coaches fault. We have La Tech clowns running a bigtime program and we are going to pay dearly for it. 4 months in and they don't have a clue. Mclain and now Thurman yet you apologist are still in denial. WTF is the question even the blind should be asking about the brilliant organizational skills of DD. Say what you want but at least our last staff had a clue who people were and worked night and day to make recruiting happen. I personally believe this staff is lazy!!! To busy spouting character, talk, talk, talk. Read the article for yourself and ask how the hell this could happen and then have you say it isn't the coaches fault, hell they should be beating this kids door down instead they aren't organized yet, that is what you get with a no credential RC at La. Tech (joseph) just not up to SEC standards and fans should be screaming for the coaches to get their damn act together.
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This is why kids shouldn't do drugs. The staff is just now getting started on the 2011 kids because they were in such a jam to finish out the 2010 class. 1 mixup OH NO!!! How about this...you go hide for a while, we'll be better off without having to read this type of crap
 
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lylsmorr said:
This is why kids shouldn't do drugs. The staff is just now getting started on the 2011 kids because they were in such a jam to finish out the 2010 class. 1 mixup OH NO!!! How about this...you go hide for a while, we'll be better off without having to read this type of crap
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it only takes one mistake to cost us dearly with a much needed recruit.
 
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aredfox28 said:
it only takes one mistake to cost us dearly with a much needed recruit.
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I didn't say that it doesn't hurt us. I'm saying let it happen more than one time before some blabbering joker comes on here spewing that kind of crap
 
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Lord Vader said:
Dooley has to get his recruiting office shaped up. No excuse for what happened. It's his responsibility.
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I agree LV.......what's wrong with a phone call from the gate to the coaches offices? On the list or not, someeone there should have contacted a coach about this to check it out. IMO 6-6 300 pound guys don't just crash a recruiting party and not be noticed. I thought the best part of CDD was his organization!
 
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Volfan8282 said:
This.

Somehow I knew eric would put it all on Kiffin. I honestly don't buy that crap from Hiestand. They've been in there for over 4 months. NSD was at the beginning of February. What have they been doing for the past 3 months? The "getting organized" excuse is getting old ... quick.
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Oh.lets see! Maybe he was forming relationships with the current squad, or maybe running spring practice, getting to know his assistants and their coaching styles. I honestly don't think CDD gives a Crap if you buy or not!!!!!
 
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lylsmorr said:
This is why kids shouldn't do drugs. The staff is just now getting started on the 2011 kids because they were in such a jam to finish out the 2010 class. 1 mixup OH NO!!! How about this...you go hide for a while, we'll be better off without having to read this type of crap
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You must not get any news in Martin Tennessee so let me help you. This is a trend see Mclain, BB and now Thurman. This staff is just not up to the challenge of recruiting in the SEC yet and frankly may never be.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
You must not get any news in Martin Tennessee so let me help you. This is a trend see Mclain, BB and now Thurman. This staff is just not up to the challenge of recruiting in the SEC yet and frankly may never be.
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Oh we get news, I just don't believe any of this "National Enquirer headline" type crap that you're spitting out. They haven't been in office a year and they have a top 10 class under their belt. This one instance was unacceptable but shut up with all the "sky is falling" crap
 
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hohenfelsvol said:
Am I in a time warp? I've saw this same thread last year.
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True.

The time tables lend themselves to the excuses in the article. Kiffin also mentioned being behind the 8 ball more than once.

The kid did his part by calling the recruiting office. I'm not going to make a mountain out of a mole hill, but this was clearly a mistake that shouldn't happen again...even on a fall back guy. It gives plenty of ammo for those that believe DD is in over his head.

The fanbase was sold on DD high organizational skills. Perhaps the recruiting office needs some Ritalin.
 
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Lexvol said:
True.

The time tables lend themselves to the excuses in the article. Kiffin also mentioned being behind the 8 ball more than once.

The kid did his part by calling the recruiting office. I'm not going to make a mountain out of a mole hill, but this was clearly a mistake that shouldn't happen again...even on a fall back guy. It gives plenty of ammo for those that believe DD is in over his head.

The fanbase was sold on DD high organizational skills. Perhaps the recruiting office needs some Ritalin.
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For those of us solidly behind the Dooley for AD movement, we really need him to nail this clerical stuff.

I'm sure this was just a sign that he needs to spend more time with the administrative staff and less time with the team. I have utmost confidence that he can train an administrative staff well.

We should give him a few years in the AD role before we judge how well he can do it.

I believe he could hire an outstanding HFC within a month of his promotion to AD.
 
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You also have to realize that CDD is competing with coaches who have been in place. That means our competing SEC schools have been talking to these recruits since they were freshmen in high school...hell, some even middle school. Yes, this sort of mishap should not happen...BUT having been in the big orange driver seat since the end of January has given our staff 3 whopping months to try to do everything. There are only so many hours in the day, regardless if this was Kiffy or Dooley.

I agree totally that this was a big screw-up and it shouldn't have happened, but we need to sit back and relax. He's our coach, like it or not, and its going to take some time (being more than 3 months or a season) to get relationships built, scouting methods down, and all the lines of communication to our recruiting pipelines solidified.
 
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Wolfeman_Vol said:
He's our coach, like it or not, and its going to take some time (being more than 3 months or a season) to get relationships built, scouting methods down, and all the lines of communication to our recruiting pipelines solidified.
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Good points. As AD, he could be building this infrastructure for all sports and not just football. If not for the greed of UT football fans, Dooley would already be the AD.

Share the wealth. Promote the coach.
 
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Not sure why there is a problem in the football office with recruiting. By now the coaches should have a priority list by position on who they are going after.

Possibly Thurman was not on the OL top ten list. But, because he came down from Dover, DE to the O&W game and wanted to talk to the coaches should have been handled properly.

We won't really know how good the recuiting is until Feb.
 
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So, with that being said, this situation wasn't the coaches fault, it was instead a clerical error within the recruiting office which is full of administrative assistants who don't know Trip from anyone else yet.
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Not buying that,
Ultimately, that IS the Coaching Staff's fault.

They are upper management. the admin. assistants are upper management's responsibility. if the adm. assistants arent doing their jobs correctly it should be corrected by the coaching staff. there should be daily ineraction, planning, & supervision.
if not, thats how costly mistakes are made
 
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I don't care whose to blame. At best, it's just plain embarrassing.
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