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#201
#201
Who were other teams not willing to take? GTFO.

This another of your "it ain't the staff's fault, the player is a moron, except I have no idea what I'm talkig about" deals?
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#202
#202
Sabanocchio said:
There is no doubt he was successful in recruiting, but many of those guys were risks that other schools were not willing to take.
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I don't know about this part. We had some risks (Nu'Keese, for instance), but I don't remember any risks that other schools weren't willing to take. It sometimes seemed that FLK wanted the risky guys only if other big schools wanted them too.
 
#203
#203
Incipient said:
I don't know about this part. We had some risks (Nu'Keese, for instance), but I don't remember any risks that other schools weren't willing to take. It sometimes seemed that FLK wanted the risky guys only if other big schools wanted them too.
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Hood was the lone one and we took him because he was local and we were struggling for linemen at that point.
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#205
#205
Incipient said:
I don't know about this part. We had some risks (Nu'Keese, for instance), but I don't remember any risks that other schools weren't willing to take. It sometimes seemed that FLK wanted the risky guys only if other big schools wanted them too.
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Are you serious? Markeith Ambles ring a bell? How about Daniel Hood? There were concerns about Matt Simms too -- we were the only school to offer him. There are a more that I cannot remember right now.
 
#206
#206
John Brown was kicked out of Florida for not going to class, bad practice habits, not putting forth effort.

The "win at all costs" attitude he approached his job with was worrisome.
 
#207
#207
100 schools would gave taken Ambles and Brown. Simms was untouched because he couldn't even touch LaMaison, who nobody offered. Hood was an issue.

The vast, vast majority were in high demand.
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#208
#208
Another guy that got a UT offer from FLK and O: Jamar Hornsby.

Markeith Ambles had scholarship offers revoked by USC, Florida, UGA and numerous others. The US Army AA game UNINVITED him.
 
#209
#209
Sabanocchio said:
Are you serious? Markeith Ambles ring a bell? How about Daniel Hood? There were concerns about Matt Simms too -- we were the only school to offer him. There are a more that I cannot remember right now.
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I had forgotten about Hood. Didn't know Simms was a character risk, just that he was an ability risk.

Brown, Ambles, Richardson, etc. I knew were character risks but I thought they were still being pretty heavily recruited. Am I misremembering here?
 
#210
#210
Sabanocchio said:
Another guy that got a UT offer from FLK and O: Jamar Hornsby.

Markeith Ambles had scholarship offers revoked by USC, Florida, UGA and numerous others. The US Army AA game UNINVITED him.
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Never heard of Hornsby. Didn't realize that Ambles has so many offers pulled. I didn't follow that recruitment until the end when UNC and USC (post Lane) were after him.
 
#211
#211
Incipient said:
I had forgotten about Hood. Didn't know Simms was a character risk, just that he was an ability risk.

Brown, Ambles, Richardson, etc. I knew were character risks but I thought they were still being pretty heavily recruited. Am I misremembering here?
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Didn't know Simms was a character risk? Seriously? The dude is notorious for having a picture of him with weed on the internet and some of his antics in High School were well-reported.

And I said other schools were not willing to take. Not that no one else was willing to take although there were a few of those as well.

We were John Brown's only offer.
 
#212
#212
Sabanocchio said:
Another guy that got a UT offer from FLK and O: Jamar Hornsby.

Markeith Ambles had scholarship offers revoked by USC, Florida, UGA and numerous others. The US Army AA game UNINVITED him.
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Who you talking to?

All of those schools take him , save UGA. Everyone else in America takes him too.

Acting like nobody was going to take those guys is retarded.
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#215
#215
Sabanocchio said:
Didn't know Simms was a character risk? Seriously? The dude is notorious for having a picture of him with weed on the internet and some of his antics in High School were well-reported.

And I said other schools were not willing to take. Not that no one else was willing to take although there were a few of those as well.

We were John Brown's only offer.
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Alright then. My following of recruiting (until this year) has pretty much consisted of the week just before signing day. So I didn't know some of these things, but it does answer the question.
 
#219
#219
SGMVols said:
Oh bull. The head coach always has final say as to who gets offered. Look at the Fulmer commits that were turned down by Kiffin.
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Kiffin never rescinded a single scholarship offer. Neither did Dooley. Brown wasn't going to leave of his own accord, he didn't have any other place to go.
 
#220
#220
No way Dooley wouldn't take Brown. He went to FL and met with his family and made sure he stayed a Vol. Big time talent.
 
#221
#221
I'm sure a lot of schools were scared off by Brown being able to qualify, but I agree that there was no way Dooley wasn't going to try to secure him if he wanted to be here.
 
#222
#222
Probably so, but my point still stands. It's not like this is the only time it's been brought up.

Maybe he wouldn't take so many risks in the long-term. That was my feeling at the time. It was necessitated by the lack of depth of the roster. Still, it was a concern.
 
#223
#223
Sabanocchio said:
I do not think there is any question FLK set the program back. His staff helped him win some games the talent maybe should not have and we were in games we had no business being in, but a lot of that is due to Monte's defense.

Coaching is more than just the product you put on the field. Sure, you are measured ultimately by wins and losses, but you cannot judge results in the short term. A sustainable success is what is required and often so difficult to achieve in a conference such as ours. I do not think what success FLK and co had was sustainable. There is no doubt he was successful in recruiting, but many of those guys were risks that other schools were not willing to take.
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Yeah we slipped from 3rd nationally in 2008 to 22nd in 2009 in total defense with 2 first round draft picks. Not sure if CMK was having his best year...VT-Aub-OHIO etc...Just sayin...GBO
 
#224
#224
Big Orange Bo said:
Yeah we slipped from 3rd nationally in 2008 to 22nd in 2009 in total defense with 2 first round draft picks. Not sure if CMK was having his best year...VT-Aub-OHIO etc...Just sayin...GBO
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You may forget the part where all of our linebackers were in the hospital. The defense did keep us in some games where the offense was inept (Florida, UCLA).
 
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