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#51
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Carl Pickens said:
Tell us about the receivers and how they’re consistently getting open
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They definitely aren’t helping. Still some drops as well. But Joe has proven consistently his decision making and accuracy aren’t great. Not sure why some like yourself can’t accept those facts. The stats back it up.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
They definitely aren’t helping. Still some drops as well. But Joe has proven consistently his decision making and accuracy aren’t great. Not sure why some like yourself can’t accept those facts. The stats back it up.
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I can’t argue his decision making and accuracy. My only point is the issues go deeper than just Milton and I think the receivers …. Or lack of receivers is a big part of the problem.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I can’t argue his decision making and accuracy. My only point is the issues go deeper than just Milton and I think the receivers …. Or lack of receivers is a big part of the problem.
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Bru (out) & Keyton are Sr. Thorton (out) Jr. Squirrel is a Soph. Webb & Leacock Freshmen = Inexperience

After that it's the likes of Jack Janek and walk-ons.
 
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Fightmaker said:
ONG the officiating. I’m not a tin foil hat guy, but I’m starting to wonder.
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I just saw the game. SO many missed/uncalled penalties on BOTH teams. And that's what raises my suspicions.

Non-calls keep the network on-schedule for its evening programming. That is worth a lot of money to a lot of sponsors.

If the refs had called every hold by A&M, we'd still be playing that game. And how do you explain some obvious face-mask fouls by Tennessee that didn't get called, unless they were "make up" non-calls? And that final interception... we hit their receiver before the ball arrived. How does a critical play like that not get called?

I can't believe SEC referees are that inept, all game long, against both teams.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
I just saw the game. SO many missed/uncalled penalties on BOTH teams. And that's what raises my suspicions.

Non-calls keep the network on-schedule for its evening programming. That is worth a lot of money to a lot of sponsors.

If the refs had called every hold by A&M, we'd still be playing that game. And how do you explain some obvious face-mask fouls by Tennessee that didn't get called, unless they were "make up" non-calls? And that final interception... we hit their receiver before the ball arrived. How does a critical play like that not get called?

I can't believe SEC referees are that inept, all game long, against both teams.
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All 3 players were in the air, playing the ball on the last int. If that was the case, there would be PI on every hail mary.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
I’ll be here next week for this weeks “the refs have it out for us” thread. Truth is calls are gonna go against a team every week. It’s unfortunate. Calls will be missed one way or the other. You have to play good enough football that you’re not blaming refs at the end of the game. Our QB didn’t do that today.
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Pretend all the uncalled PIs were completions and I think it’s a different conversation about Joe
 
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Lankykong said:
Pretend all the uncalled PIs were completions and I think it’s a different conversation about Joe
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You may be right, I will try to pay closer attention when I rewatch the game. What I did see though was both teams had a bunch of penalties called, and we need to clean up our play as much as we can to have the best chances going forward.
 
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MiramarVol said:
They missed 2 face mask penalties on us, But they also didn't call all those PI penalties either.
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Yeah, and one one of the huge runs, Ollie literally is flying sideways to tackle a DT who nearly makes a tackle and they totally missed it. That crew was really bad. They probably shouldnt work SEC games.
 
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They missed that face mask on us late in the game that could've been huge for A&M. Would it have even mattered if they'd called the pass interference that was so obvious against A&M. I have to believe we score on that one even with Joe at QB.
 
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Idk if anybody has mentioned it in this thread or not, but I’m pretty sure Florida had 0 holding penalties called and A&M had 1 and it was very late …. There’s no flipping way olines just play that good against us, especially when we are beating them off the edge like they stole something
 
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dobre_shunka said:
A&M really got screwed on the pick where their left tackle took a step backwards before the snap but they didn't call it and allowed the play to stand.

He had pulled up early several other times but that one was crazy blatant.
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I really don't know how you can be a supposedly high level official and miss so many false start penalties.
 
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We need to get really good at that because it won’t be getting any better any time soon.

If we struggle in any of our games the refs are going to pile on penalties.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I can’t argue his decision making and accuracy. My only point is the issues go deeper than just Milton and I think the receivers …. Or lack of receivers is a big part of the problem.
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Definitely we lost a lot of speed and talent to the NFL since last season. It wasn't just Hooker who was special.

But here's what I can't yet reconcile:
We have the same (pre-injury) pitching and catching personnel this season as we had against Clemson in January. They've had the benefit of spring practice, a whole off-season, summer camp, plus the football season together to become more proficient in their route running, defense reading, and pass timing.

But they haven't.

Why? I don't mean the every fan is entitled to his opinion why. I mean in the coaches' and players' reality, why?

Every word from the coaches on the work ethic, quantity and quality of practice and video study, comradery, and leadership has been excellent.

So if Milton and these receivers have been working to get better ever since the Orange Bowl, but are producing diminished results... that leaves defenses. Have defenses found ways to diminish our receivers' effectiveness? They've certainly found some ways to encourage one or two miss-reads per game by Milton.

Also, Milton has been repeatedly guilty of throwing late this season--which is the opposite of what one would expect after more time and preparation together. Is that a recognition/decision issue within his brain, or a trust/confidence issue between him and his receivers? One thing we always hear from great QB/receiver tandems: "I always know where he's going to be." One thing we fans never know is how consistently or accurately every receiver is reading the defense and running the correct route without hesitation.

Or... are we just seeing a mismatch between the athletic abilities of our current receivers against the SEC defenders we've faced?

If I had to guess, I'd guess that what we're witnessing is all of these problems occurring at different times in each game. Not every play, but often enough to disrupt a good drive. As the coaches tell us about offensive line play, all you need to produce a negative or calamitous play is for one person to be a little off, a quarter-step slow, or unsure for a half-second.

One thing we are witnessing now for sure is a race... between all parts finally clicking in our passing game, and the most demanding stretch of this 2023 schedule. Fortunately, this is college football--and you just never know when surprises are going to happen.
 
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Orange931 said:
This craps been going on all year. We just didn’t get the W against Florida.
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I'm STILL pissed about that ref kicking the ball, which gave FL enough time to substitute. How that guy still has a job is beyond me. If I screwed something up that badly and publicly I would be thrown out door a la Uncle Phil tossing Jazz out
 
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BearCat204 said:
It's not just in our games, it has been absolutely horrid all across college football
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I'm beginning to wonder if the economy is having a domino effect. (I know that sounds crazy. But when's the last news story you heard that wouldn't have sounded crazy 5 years ago?)

Here's the logic behind that ponder: Networks paid big money for their contracts to televise college football. A poor economy (including inflation and supply chain issues) means sponsors' sales aren't as high as they'd counted on. So they're unwilling to pay as much per minute for advertising. That leaves the networks struggling to make enough profit to cover what they paid out for their football contracts.

Delayed or extended games create problems for the network, as they lose eyeball the later it gets.

If the clock rule change hasn't speeded up the game enough to keep the after-game network programming on schedule--or get subsequent games on the air on-time--then the next best way to speed up the games would be to have fewer penalty calls. The least obvious ways to do that would be to reduce calls like holding and pass interference--calls that can't be brought up for review.

Well, one man's conspiracy theory is another's "well-reasoned hypothesis." I kinda already know what the verdict will be here. But any time something involving millions of consumers changes, it's a good guess that money is involved somewhere.
 
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ddubb76 said:
First time in a long time that I can recall that we beat the other team AND the officials.
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I gotta say, this season I’ve seen the worst officiating I’ve ever seen in every single game. Consistently bad…zebras missing calls right and left, both against us and against the other team. I mean, OBVIOUS bad calls, oftentimes right in front of the zebra. And I believe these have all been SEC crews, right? How do these people keep their jobs? Oh, but don’t you coaches dare call them out or the SEC will fine you.

Anybody know if the league actually grades these guys after every game? And after every season? The officiating I’ve seen in all our games is the worst I can recall ever seeing.
 
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