We Better See Improvement Tonight

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RollerVol said:
In more news...Belmont upsets UNC. I wouldn't jump the gun just yet my friend.:)
How about after the season?:crazy:
GO VOLS!
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Let's see. Belmont equals a regular NCAA team who has been a frog's hair from beating top seeds. USC Upstate is..., ummmmm.., not.
 
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Roustabout said:
Let's see. Belmont equals a regular NCAA team who has been a frog's hair from beating top seeds. USC Upstate is..., ummmmm.., not.
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They have a kid that WILL play in the NBA, a guard that can shoot the lights out, and two pretty good sized big men. They also are very efficient on the offensive end of the floor. Just because they don't have the resume of Belmont doesn't make them any less of a quality mid major team.
 
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D.C. Vol said:
If we continue to play a lifeless, discombobulated brand of basketball every first half of the early games, I'll be turning up the heat for "The Official Fire Coach Martin Thread." I'm still in disbelief we actually faced a double digit deficit to the almighty South Carolina Upstate. Thus far, I haven't witnessed anything new to give me the belief that his "half season" antics will be anything different this year.
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calban said:
Do you promise to disappear if we win by 25+?
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DC why did you ignore this post?
 
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frankly I'm sure a lot of people on Volnation would welcome Bruce back!

Of course we would but I must have missed the memo that stated that future hires will be based on VN popularity polls.
 
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This team has not gotten any better. It is pretty obvious. Maybe they will as the season goes on. But i remember saying alot of the same things last year and everyone said, "Your stupid! This team is going to the tourney!" and I was all like, "Eh, not really. They can't shoot, can't make free throws and have no chemistry."

Yeah, its early, but it feels pretty much the same. Cuonzo hasnt really given us anything else to go on.
 
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UTVolWarrior98 said:
Why is he a troll?! He's just tired of seeing the same ol bumbling clowns and frankly so am I!! He simply demands and excpects more...its called being a passionate fan. MAN UP BOY!
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It's not this ONE post. I agree we need to come out rolling. We could win by 20 and he'll find something to complain about.
 
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Roustabout said:
Let's see. Belmont equals a regular NCAA team who has been a frog's hair from beating top seeds. USC Upstate is..., ummmmm.., not.
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And the past success of Belmont has nothing to do with this years team. I have seen both play this season. I am not sure Belmont is much better than USC Upstate. USC Upstate has more talent this year. But go on and rave about what Belmont has accomplished in the past. Has next to nothing to do with the argument of who is a better team this season.
 
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cncchris33 said:
As will the poster you're quoting. They are both insufferable.
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Once the current head coach is removed from further harming what's left of our diminishing basketball program, my tirades will cease. If by some miracle his team meets expectations this year, I will also be the first one to aknolwedge his accomplishments.
 
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Just wait til we lose. In your mind, it'll happen at UTEP, which is a little over a week away. I mean, would it kill you to wait until a week has passed before starting a Fire Cuonzo thread when we're 2-1?

You know if you do, it's going to get bumped with every single game we win...especially in the NCAA tournament. It will probably be locked in a month. Ask the guy that made the last one.
 
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D.C. Vol said:
Once the current head coach is removed from further harming what's left of our diminishing basketball program, my tirades will cease. If by some miracle his team meets expectations this year, I will also be the first one to aknolwedge his accomplishments.
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You'll, of course, pardon my skepticism re: any of that. I, like you in relation to our basketball coach, will take the "believe it when I see it" approach.
 
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So far cuonzo ball has been boring and ineffective as far as getting us into the NCAA tournament. It has been effective at getting us bounced in the first round of the NIT. You holier than thou posters try to equate seeing something for what it is as Martin hate. Look nobody would be happier to see Vol bb succeed. Is it really stretching it that the preponderance of the evidence so far indicates that he might just suck? Does that equate to me wishing it was so?
 
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SJAVol32 said:
I just noticed who it was. It's going to be a long season here whether we have a good season or not.
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Agreed. Some people aren't happy unless there is even a modicum of something to complain about.

Perfection is boring I guess, and losing provides a lot more topics for bitc...conversation.
 
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StoVol said:
So far cuonzo ball has been boring and ineffective as far as getting us into the NCAA tournament. It has been effective at getting us bounced in the first round of the NIT. You holier than thou posters try to equate seeing something for what it is as Martin hate. Look nobody would be happier to see Vol bb succeed. Is it really stretching it that the preponderance of the evidence so far indicates that he might just suck? Does that equate to me wishing it was so?
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It's not so much the complaining that bothers me. No one is immune from criticism. It's the posters who only show up to do it. They are AWOL after wins, unless it's to predictably whine that we should have won by 100. Nine times out of ten, they give away their lack of knowledge about the game and how it works in their first post, and then tirelessly continue their tirade of ignorance.

I'm all for fair criticism, but those calling for Martin's head one game into his third season, and calling the season a failure already, deserve whatever ridicule comes their way. They are incapable of being impressed despite anything Martin can do from this point. Their minds are made up that he can't be successful.
 
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StoVol said:
So far cuonzo ball has been boring and ineffective as far as getting us into the NCAA tournament. It has been effective at getting us bounced in the first round of the NIT. You holier than thou posters try to equate seeing something for what it is as Martin hate. Look nobody would be happier to see Vol bb succeed. Is it really stretching it that the preponderance of the evidence so far indicates that he might just suck? Does that equate to me wishing it was so?
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Well said.

OTOH...he's shown he might just be a pretty good coach. Just hasn't done either consistently.
 
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StoVol said:
So far cuonzo ball has been boring and ineffective as far as getting us into the NCAA tournament. It has been effective at getting us bounced in the first round of the NIT. You holier than thou posters try to equate seeing something for what it is as Martin hate. Look nobody would be happier to see Vol bb succeed. Is it really stretching it that the preponderance of the evidence so far indicates that he might just suck? Does that equate to me wishing it was so?
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I think we have a fan base full of passion for UT sports, and that passion sometimes clouds people's judgement. I have been a full defendant of Coach Zo, especially with my buddies who are huge Pearl fans just as I am, but, Zo has to produce this year, and we have to get to the NCAA tournament and be at the very least competitive. You can throw statistics towards whether or not you think Zo will succeed here or not, but at the end of the day Coach Zo has to produce this year. I think everyone should hold off on all judgements until seasons end, but all Coach Zo lovers need to realize that if things do go south fans are going to call for a change and that doesn't make them "trolls". It should also be said if Zo does succeed here all the Pearl lovers and non-supporters of Coach Zo need to accept it and STFU and support Zo. No matter what, we all should support UT, for better or for worse.
 
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keckjm said:
I think we have a fan base full of passion for UT sports, and that passion sometimes clouds people's judgement. I have been a full defendant of Coach Zo, especially with my buddies who are huge Pearl fans just as I am, but, Zo has to produce this year, and we have to get to the NCAA tournament and be at the very least competitive. You can thrown statistics towards whether or not you think Zo will succeed here or not, but at the end of the day Coach Zo has to produce this year. I think everyone should hold off on all judgements until seasons end, but all Coach Zo lovers need to realize that if things do go south fans are going to call for a change and that doesn't make them "trolls". It should also be said if Zo does succeed here all the Pearl lovers and non-supporters of Coach Zo need to accept it and STFU and support Zo. No matter what, we all should support UT, for better or for worse.
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Seriously. Good post.
 
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keckjm said:
I think we have a fan base full of passion for UT sports, and that passion sometimes clouds people's judgement. I have been a full defendant of Coach Zo, especially with my buddies who are huge Pearl fans just as I am, but, Zo has to produce this year, and we have to get to the NCAA tournament and be at the very least competitive. You can thrown statistics towards whether or not you think Zo will succeed here or not, but at the end of the day Coach Zo has to produce this year. I think everyone should hold off on all judgements until seasons end, but all Coach Zo lovers need to realize that if things do go south fans are going to call for a change and that doesn't make them "trolls". It should also be said if Zo does succeed here all the Pearl lovers and non-supporters of Coach Zo need to accept it and STFU and support Zo. No matter what, we all should support UT, for better or for worse.
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Well said.
 
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StoVol said:
So far cuonzo ball has been boring and ineffective as far as getting us into the NCAA tournament. It has been effective at getting us bounced in the first round of the NIT. You holier than thou posters try to equate seeing something for what it is as Martin hate. Look nobody would be happier to see Vol bb succeed. Is it really stretching it that the preponderance of the evidence so far indicates that he might just suck? Does that equate to me wishing it was so?
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Winning seasons don't equate "sucking". Beating UK by 30 and 3-0 against UF doesn't equate "sucking". Now if we were as bad as we were with Buzz, I'd agree, but he is no where close to that.
 
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I don't understand that we "better see improvement" tonight. What does that prove? We can beat down Citadel?

We aren't going to know anything else about this team till after the B4A. If we beat UTEP solidly, take down either Xavier or Iowa, then play Kansas well, it proves that this team is on the uptick and preparing for a solid season. Lose two games, it shows this team is probably not going to do much damage.

Beating Citadel and Tennessee State won't prove much. We can look for some certain things, but I doubt we are going to get all the answers this week.

Also, UT just played Saturday night. Not a lot room to improve in 48 hours.
 
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