We need a quarterback!!!!!

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I only see one loss for sure...UF. Ga/Bama/UCLA are ??????'s
UF could be interesting if Tebow bolts. there backup QB is off the team and could be an issue next yr.?

I see 9-3 and the bowl game.

Not bad..and wait till 2010-2011!

I will be the first to say it.....Crompton will have a very good yr next season and have everyone saying...."i'm sorry." BOOK IT!
 
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rexvol said:
AJ McCarron is now being called a "soft verbal" to Bama
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but is also being quoted something to the effect of, he will be a at bama unless saban "up and gets fired"

i think this kid is just taking his visits, but from what i have read, he wont be switching schools
 
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peaygolf89 said:
Kiffin knows more football than ANYONE on this site, as did Fulmer. Boyd id just like Tyrod Taylor at Va Tech and Pryor at OSU. They are athletes, not qb's! Kiffin want's a pro style qb. Crompton could be that guy with good coaching and a new system. He was a 4-5 star recruit.

Let Boyd go to West Va/Mich and run the spread. Kiffin knows what he is doing. Anyone that thinks they know more is a fool. BTW.....name 1 duel threat QB Kiffin has ever coached? All the USC QB's were pro style, and I think they were pretty good??!!
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Uh....no.

Boyd is basically a more athletic Andre Woodson. He doesn't have the strongest arm, but he can put in anywhere on the field for the first 20 yards.

And Pryor has more potential than anyone in the country. Not bad for being thrown to the wolves as a true freshman, starting over a 5th year senior.

I can see why we wouldn't take him, but Boyd's not going to be running the option anywhere.
 
#155
#155
McCarron is the real deal, i would love it if he came here. Seems like a long shot though.
 
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bburger991 said:
Uh....no.

Boyd is basically a more athletic Andre Woodson. He doesn't have the strongest arm, but he can put in anywhere on the field for the first 20 yards.

And Pryor has more potential than anyone in the country. Not bad for being thrown to the wolves as a true freshman, starting over a 5th year senior.

I can see why we wouldn't take him, but Boyd's not going to be running the option anywhere.
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Andre Woodson= 6'5

Tajh Boyd= 6'0

and you cant compare a successful college quarterback to a 4 star recruit who has yet to see a dorm room
 
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#157
Ok, there's a height difference but they play with a similar style. Both are pocket passing QB, who scramble around in the pocket to get more time to make a throw, or can run it for the first down.

It's not like he's a Tyrod Taylor who either hits his #1 WR or scrambles.
 
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bburger991 said:
Uh....no.

Boyd is basically a more athletic Andre Woodson. He doesn't have the strongest arm, but he can put in anywhere on the field for the first 20 yards.

And Pryor has more potential than anyone in the country. Not bad for being thrown to the wolves as a true freshman, starting over a 5th year senior.

I can see why we wouldn't take him, but Boyd's not going to be running the option anywhere.
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I want 1, just 1 person, that has watched Boyd play several games say he is a great QB. Film does not count. Who was he playing against? and I could get film on my son that makes him look like Ray Lewis. Pryor can't throw the ball with any accuracy. "more potential than anyone in the country....." Really???? He throws it 15 times a game for a reason......he can't throw it! He is a great athlete, but not a QB.
 
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And everyone compares players to someone. It's like Orgeron has said before, it makes you feel better about a kid if you can compare him to someone you knopw was successful. That's why your always apprehensive when you see a kid who doesn't fit the mold of the normal player at his position.
 
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#160
Every time this thread pops up on the board I hear:
"We need a pitcher not a belly itcher" in my head. Can't explain why.
 
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peaygolf89 said:
I want 1, just 1 person, that has watched Boyd play several games say he is a great QB. Film does not count. Who was he playing against? and I could get film on my son that makes him look like Ray Lewis. Pryor can't throw the ball with any accuracy. "more potential than anyone in the country....." Really???? He throws it 15 times a game for a reason......he can't throw it! He is a great athlete, but not a QB.
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And how many times have you watched Boyd?

And ok then, you get your son that film. It's a lot harder than you realize to get a good highlight film, much less go to camps all over the country, and impress enough to be a top QB.

And no, he throws it 15 times a game, because that's their style of offense, he's a true freshman, and they have one of the best RB's in the country behind him.

Yeah, he's so inaccurate, he's hitting 63% of his passes. There's a reason he was far and away the #1 recruit in the country, and it's because of his size, speed, and arm strength. It was pretty clear that he was the only player on the offensive side of the ball who could even compete with USC in that game.

Next season you'll see him do much better, as they're adjust the offense to fit him, much like they did with Troy Smith.
 
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bburger991 said:
Ok, there's a height difference but they play with a similar style. Both are pocket passing QB, who scramble around in the pocket to get more time to make a throw, or can run it for the first down.

It's not like he's a Tyrod Taylor who either hits his #1 WR or scrambles.
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OOO ok i wasnt aware that you have seen Tajh Boyd play against D-1 competition.. Well all of us are fooled then.. rivals, scout, fans, etc.. all thought he was a high school senior... again.... you're comparing him to a college quarterback
 
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bburger991 said:
And how many times have you watched Boyd?

And ok then, you get your son that film. It's a lot harder than you realize to get a good highlight film, much less go to camps all over the country, and impress enough to be a top QB.

And no, he throws it 15 times a game, because that's their style of offense, he's a true freshman, and they have one of the best RB's in the country behind him.

Yeah, he's so inaccurate, he's hitting 63% of his passes. There's a reason he was far and away the #1 recruit in the country, and it's because of his size, speed, and arm strength. It was pretty clear that he was the only player on the offensive side of the ball who could even compete with USC in that game.

Next season you'll see him do much better, as they're adjust the offense to fit him, much like they did with Troy Smith.
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Look....Take Bennie Wells off that team and they are 9-3/8-4
Pryor may be a good college QB down the road, but that kind of QB will not fit Kiffin's system. Boyd is much the same. That was the point of the discussion. I have not seen Boyd play a game, but everyone (lots) here thinks (5* ...he must be great) He will be....in the right system. UT does not run that system. That was the main point...correct.

Wasn't Mitch Mustain the #1 recruit in the country???? (or close)??
What has he done so far?
 
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#164
#164
Ok, so you've never compared a HS player to someone who's already in college?

I'm not saying he's going to be as good as Woodson. I'm saying they have a similar playing style. Boyd could end up a bust, or he could end up an AA, we don't know. But we do know how he plays at this point.
 
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peaygolf89 said:
Look....Take Bennie Wells off that team and they are 9-3/8-4
Pryor may be a good college QB down the road, but that kind of QB will not fit Kiffin's system. Boyd is much the same. That was the point of the discussion. I have not seen Boyd play a game, but everyone (lots) here thinks (5* ...he must be great) He will be....in the right system. UT does not run that system. That was the main point...correct.
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They probably lose more than that without Beanie, but w/e

And Pryor could fit Kiffin's system. 6'6, 235, and he has a cannon for an arm. The thing is, he's just faster than anyone he's had like Leinart, Palmer, ..etc.

Really, there's never been another player like Pryor. How many players who are that big are that fast? Plus he has a great arm. Much less can throw the ball as far?

All he needs now is good coaching and experience and
he'll be fine.

But I can see us not taking Boyd, because his arm strength isn't the greatest, and he likes to go down the field.

But everyone in the country would take Pryor.
 
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bburger991 said:
Ok, so you've never compared a HS player to someone who's already in college?

I'm not saying he's going to be as good as Woodson. I'm saying they have a similar playing style. Boyd could end up a bust, or he could end up an AA, we don't know. But we do know how he plays at this point.
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See the thing is tho you're comparing a 6'5 Andre Woodson to a 6'0 Tajh Boyd who have nothing in common.. in this case ill go ahead and compare David Oku to Peyton Manning.. i believe Oku is the better runner but Peyton is more of a pocket passer
 
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getyopopcornready said:
See the thing is tho you're comparing a 6'5 Andre Woodson to a 6'0 Tajh Boyd who have nothing in common.. in this case ill go ahead and compare David Oku to Peyton Manning
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Except they have almost everything in common except size. They have the same type of game..

And what's to say that Boyd couldn't grow a couple inches in college?
 
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bburger991 said:
They probably lose more than that without Beanie, but w/e

And Pryor could fit Kiffin's system. 6'6, 235, and he has a cannon for an arm. The thing is, he's just faster than anyone he's had like Leinart, Palmer, ..etc.

Really, there's never been another player like Pryor. How many players who are that big are that fast? Plus he has a great arm. Much less can throw the ball as far?

All he needs now is good coaching and experience and
he'll be fine.

But I can see us not taking Boyd, because his arm strength isn't the greatest, and he likes to go down the field.

But everyone in the country would take Pryor.
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This is what make posting boards so great....Opinion.
My opinion about Pryor is he has no touch or accuracy. He is a great talent...no question, but I don't see him as a great QB. If I'm wrong...I'll be the first to admit it!

I still think Crompton will have a big year next season. He has the talent (his brains are the key). Boyd does not fit the system at UT. Not a big loss.

We are on the same page, except with Pryor. I hope I'm right for 2 reasons......(1.I hate to be wrong, and 2. I hate OSU)
 
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bburger991 said:
Except they have almost everything in common except size. They have the same type of game..

And what's to say that Boyd couldn't grow a couple inches in college?
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So youre saying Boyd will not only develop into the quarterback that Woodson was but he will also grow 5 inches?
 
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...No

I'm not even saying Boyd will be good.

Theres a chance he is, but we don't know.

But I do know that he plays the game like Woodson does.

And he may not grow 5, but its still possible he grows 1 or 2.

Again, I'm not saying Boyd is as good as Woodson, I'm just saying that they play their positions very similarly.
 
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peaygolf89 said:
Look....Take Bennie Wells off that team and they are 9-3/8-4
Pryor may be a good college QB down the road, but that kind of QB will not fit Kiffin's system. Boyd is much the same. That was the point of the discussion. I have not seen Boyd play a game, but everyone (lots) here thinks (5* ...he must be great) He will be....in the right system. UT does not run that system. That was the main point...correct.

Wasn't Mitch Mustain the #1 recruit in the country???? (or close)??
What has he done so far?
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Uh....Wells was not playing for a lot of the year. They lost to USC and PSU. Without Beanie, who else beats them? They didnt even really have another close game with Pryor at QB. Pryor was only playing because the O-Line was absolutely horrible....Boeckman is a statue, and was getting killed. Pryor didnt throw much cause they didnt need to....its Tressel-ball, play D and field position. When he needed to hit big plays, he did. I dont think Pryor is the end all be all of college QB's yet by any stretch of the imagination.....but to judge him on his true freshman year, thats a little ignorant. He lost 1 game as a starter. Are you telling me you wouldnt want a player the caliber of Pryor on Tennessee? I sure as hell would.
 
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Vols5150 said:
.....but it appears LK disagrees:

Kiffin said last week. “But we may not take a quarterback in this class, and I’m OK with that. I don’t want to take a quarterback that’s going to come in here and not meet our expectation level for what we’re looking at."

The question is........If Kiffin were the "great offensive mind" and "top-shelf recruiter" that many claim him to be........why can't we even get a "mediocre" QB to sign? Is the LK image we've "built" not consistent with the perception of all the recruits out there?

Isn't he also suppose to be great at "developing players" so that they live up to the "expectation level"?


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Wow pal...why can't he get a mediocre quarterback?? Because we don't want a mediocre quarterback that is not a good fit for Kiffin's system...you are the reason IT guys should stick to their work and not try to figure out the real landscape of college football.
 
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BuckeyeVols said:
Uh....Wells was not playing for a lot of the year. They lost to USC and PSU. Without Beanie, who else beats them? They didnt even really have another close game with Pryor at QB. Pryor was only playing because the O-Line was absolutely horrible....Boeckman is a statue, and was getting killed. Pryor didnt throw much cause they didnt need to....its Tressel-ball, play D and field position. When he needed to hit big plays, he did. I dont think Pryor is the end all be all of college QB's yet by any stretch of the imagination.....but to judge him on his true freshman year, thats a little ignorant. He lost 1 game as a starter. Are you telling me you wouldnt want a player the caliber of Pryor on Tennessee? I sure as hell would.
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They could probably lose to Illinois or Wisconsin without him, but I agree with most of it.
 
#175
#175
I got the strange feeling that this was an OSU board while I was reading this thread.
 
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