We would be winning 9-10 games if Kiffin was still here....

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jkleno said:
I would agree with you- 9 wins. In the one season he had here, it was better than the last 4. He also did it with "less talent"- wasn't that the reason Fulmer was fired, being lazy and not putting in the hours to stay on top, poor recruiting. I am sure someone can stack up Fulmer's recruiting classes with Dooley's 3. I would venture to say Dooley's were ranked higher. SEC coaches "hated" him- a trait I liked at the time. Who wants a coach that the other SEC coaches talk pretty to? I want the coach that kicks their butts on the field and wants no friends. Interesting topic- this is a sports forum so I think if it's UT related it is fair game.
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Yeah, figured Id change it up a little in here...get our minds off the tempestuous, current situation we're in lol
 
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Who cares what he did at USC...he was the PERFECT FIT for where we were and wanted to go! Again, WE WERE THE MOST TALKED ABOUT 5-7 FOOTBALL TEAM EVER!!
 
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No way. The only way we would have had a chance to win 9 or 10 games this year is if we would have kept Fulmer; or hired a proven winning D1 coach after we fired Fulmer who had proven he could recruit and coach. WE didn't do either of those 2 things, so here we are.
 
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What kills me is how people talk about Kiffin's success while he was here. 7 wins? At the time it seemed ok, in retrospect now we can see how important having more talent in a few key positions is.

Would Georgia have beaten us this year if we had Eric Berry in the secondary?

Would we have only scored 3 with Hardesty running against Mizzou?

Would we be below average in the tight end department with Luke Stocker out there cracking heads?

Would we have as many dropped TD's with D-Moore running routes?

Kiffin had a LOT of talent on his 7 win team. We could be having a completely different season with just a couple of Kiffins players. Matt Barkley and Marquis Lee agree with me.
 
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I have an idea. Let's forget about the past and look forward to the future. Kiffin was terrible for this program. Dooley was terrible for this program. There. I said it. Let's move on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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UTVolWarrior98 said:
Who cares what he did at USC...he was the PERFECT FIT for where we were and wanted to go! Again, WE WERE THE MOST TALKED ABOUT 5-7 FOOTBALL TEAM EVER!!
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He wasn't the perfect fit. Dude he wanted to quit, remember. If he hadn't left willing, he would have been walked out the door later, just like he was at USC. If he couldn't compete in the Pac 12 with the talent USC has on that roster, no way he cuts it in the SEC year after year. Get serious.
 
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UTVolWarrior98 said:
Yeah, yeah guys, I know he is the biggest slimeball snake to ever set foot on Shields-Watkins Field. He put the knife in all of our backs, and I hate him for that and how he did it..no question! I wish him the worst!

BUT, that slimeball snake brought valuable characteristics to this program such as confidence, swagger and arrogance! Do you guys realize that Tennessee was the most talked about 5-7 team EVER?! In one year, that man had TN football back on the map! Yeah, we went a mediocre 7-6, but look at the results from some of those games. We had to play #12 Virginia Tech in the Peach Bowl which wasn't fair, so he really could have/should have went 8-5. Hell, if Cody doesn't block the FG he could have easily went 9-4! Kiffin is what WE NEEDED at the time...I thought it was the PERFECT hire! Just turned out to blow up in our faces...but who saw that coming?!

So, with all this being said, what are some of your thoughts on Kiffin? Did you like him and feel was the perfect guy for the job when he got hired? Did you like his swagger and Cali arrogance? Do you think if he had stayed we'd be relevant again winning 9 or 10 wins...making New Years Day and BSC bowl games?

I'll admit, It killed me when I found out he was leaving...total dagger. I enjoyed his only year in Knoxville. Yeah, he made some horrible decisions off the field, but that man was just what the Doctor ordered AT THAT TIME!:yes:
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Kiffin could not win 9 or 10 games with all the 5* players and a much softer schedule @ USC
 
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OP is right. I know all the fans who act like scorned bitter ex girlfriends will not agree. We would have got the same slap on the wrist from the NCAA if we had Kiffin. People want to talk about his players leaving. Most left because Dooley was a loser. We would have had Bray at qb , Aaron Douglass at Lt, Bryce Brown at rb with JH an Darick at wr. He would have pulled in top ten classes and gotten our D right. He did more in one year than DD in three.
 
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hep said:
OP was BORN in 98, he never even saw us hoist the Crystal Trophy!
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Man that was a great night. I happened to be in Alabama at the time at a training course and everyone down there congratulated me when I was sporting the UT goods.
 
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UTVolWarrior98 said:
Yeah, yeah guys, I know he is the biggest slimeball snake to ever set foot on Shields-Watkins Field. He put the knife in all of our backs, and I hate him for that and how he did it..no question! I wish him the worst!

BUT, that slimeball snake brought valuable characteristics to this program such as confidence, swagger and arrogance! Do you guys realize that Tennessee was the most talked about 5-7 team EVER?! In one year, that man had TN football back on the map! Yeah, we went a mediocre 7-6, but look at the results from some of those games. We had to play #12 Virginia Tech in the Peach Bowl which wasn't fair, so he really could have/should have went 8-5. Hell, if Cody doesn't block the FG he could have easily went 9-4! Kiffin is what WE NEEDED at the time...I thought it was the PERFECT hire! Just turned out to blow up in our faces...but who saw that coming?!

So, with all this being said, what are some of your thoughts on Kiffin? Did you like him and feel was the perfect guy for the job when he got hired? Did you like his swagger and Cali arrogance? Do you think if he had stayed we'd be relevant again winning 9 or 10 wins...making New Years Day and BSC bowl games?

I'll admit, It killed me when I found out he was leaving...total dagger. I enjoyed his only year in Knoxville. Yeah, he made some horrible decisions off the field, but that man was just what the Doctor ordered AT THAT TIME!:yes:
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Those horrible decisions off the field would probably have gotten us serious NCAA sanctions. Kiffin would have blown this program up in the end and he was NOT what we needed at the time. Use some common sense.
 
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I'm not gonna lie, I was excited about the Kiffin hire. His first press conference was very convincing. However, looking back I'm glad he left. I mean we would be on probation, maybe even worse. Everything happens for a reason, I truly believe that. We have Butch Stones now. Lets support him, and pray he gets us to where we belong.
 
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Umm he had a lot of talent on that team, much more than we have now. I hate to break it to you but if we had that kind of talent now we would have a better record with a much more difficult schedule. There are no Jonathon Crompton, Eric Berry, Denarious Moore, Montario Hardesty, Dan Williams, Wes Brown, Gerald Jones type players on this team, not to mention a much easier schedule.
 
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