Welcoming Finland and Sweden into NATO in advance

[lawgator1]

Good job, Vlad. NATO is expanding ! What say ye volg and Rasp? Ooopsie?

 

[hog88]

More freeloaders.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Good job, Vlad. NATO is expanding ! What say ye volg and Rasp? Ooopsie?

Another LG prediction thread. You just set the wheels in motion for this to NOT happen...

 

[utvolpj]

 

[OrangeTsar]

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Much easier to do this in the day when the Europeans were a couple of months away by sailing ship than today when a warhead can arrive in 30 minutes
We definitely should entangle ourselves as little as possible; but we can no longer sit and isolate in majestic aloofness
But we should constantly do everything we can to enable self sufficiency. Something Biden and the multinational corporations fight every single day. We need to rebuild and strengthen homegrown energy production and manufacturing PRONTO

 

[tvolsfan]

More freeloaders.

Finland would in no way be a freeloader. I admittedly don’t know as much about Sweden.

 

[lawgator1]

Much easier to do this in the day when the Europeans were a couple of months away by sailing ship than today when a warhead can arrive in 30 minutes
We definitely should entangle ourselves as little as possible; but we can no longer sit and isolate in majestic aloofness
But we should constantly do everything we can to enable self sufficiency. Something Biden and the multinational corporations fight every single day. We need to rebuild and strengthen homegrown energy production and manufacturing PRONTO

I agree with all of that.

Given recent events we see why we need to both on the one hand be able to project influence and power worldwide, but on the other hand be able to rely on ourselves as much as we cost effectively can when things go south.

 

[Hunerwadel]

More freeloaders.

Russia fears NATO, so IMO it's worth it.

 

[hog88]

Russia fears NATO, so IMO it's worth it.

What do they bring to the party except another couple countries we are sworn to defend?

 

[Orangeburst]

Finland would in no way be a freeloader. I admittedly don’t know as much about Sweden.

Sweden has Gripens and Finland just bought F-35s

 

[Orangeburst]

What do they bring to the party except another couple countries we are sworn to defend?

Uhhhh the Swedish Bikini Team

 

[Hunerwadel]

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Ole Tom could have put it in the constitution but. Of course it would have been amended long ago.

 

[n_huffhines]

Much easier to do this in the day when the Europeans were a couple of months away by sailing ship than today when a warhead can arrive in 30 minutes
We definitely should entangle ourselves as little as possible; but we can no longer sit and isolate in majestic aloofness
But we should constantly do everything we can to enable self sufficiency. Something Biden and the multinational corporations fight every single day. We need to rebuild and strengthen homegrown energy production and manufacturing PRONTO

You could argue that's even more reason to heed the founders' advice.

When did we ever "isolate in majestic aloofness"? We've got generations of living Americans who have never seen an isolationist America.

 

[hog88]

Uhhhh the Swedish Bikini Team

I will need detailed pictures to verify this.

 

[joevol33]

I agree with all of that.

Given recent events we see why we need to both on the one hand be able to project influence and power worldwide, but on the other hand be able to rely on ourselves as much as we cost effectively can when things go south.

This is the most logical post I've ever seen you type in here

 

[Hunerwadel]

What do they bring to the party except another couple countries we are sworn to defend?

Proximity to the enemy. Having 29 countries and maybe 31 soon aligned with us militarily. NATO is a bargain.

 

[85SugarVol]

Finland would in no way be a freeloader. I admittedly don’t know as much about Sweden.

Sweden has an entire arms industry, for both domestic and export.

 

[tvolsfan]

I agree with all of that.

Given recent events we see why we need to both on the one hand be able to project influence and power worldwide, but on the other hand be able to rely on ourselves as much as we cost effectively can when things go south.

I agree with this

 

[tvolsfan]

Proximity to the enemy. Having 29 countries and maybe 31 soon aligned with us militarily. NATO is a bargain.

Also a much stronger northern flank to deter any action in the Baltics.

 

[85SugarVol]

What do they bring to the party except another couple countries we are sworn to defend?

Force them to invest the 2% as a condition of admittance, revocable based on future actions.

 

[85SugarVol]

The Finns are tough. They’ve tangled with the Russians multiple times.

The Swedes are rich. They are a military technology contributor.

Could definitely pick a worse couple of nations imo.

 

[hog88]

Proximity to the enemy. Having 29 countries and maybe 31 soon aligned with us militarily. NATO is a bargain.

To me it sounds like just more of our money going out the door.

 

[hog88]

The Finns are tough. They’ve tangled with the Russians multiple times.

The Swedes are rich. They are a military technology contributor.

Could definitely pick a worse couple of nations imo.

Can we trade Belgium and Greece for them?

 

[Hunerwadel]

To me it sounds like just more of our money going out the door.

We have plenty of that though. At least until we run out of ink and paper.

 

[lukeneyland]

Seems like another Russo Finish war isn’t too far fetched anymore