Well Here is the Reason Te'a Cooper left the program.

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madtownvol said:
If this had been two male athletes (football or basketball), I am pretty confident that it would have been handled quite differently with the usual cliches about blowing off steam, a conflict in the moment that both parties have now moved on from and lots of tacit accolades about the competitive spirit/fight that both possess.
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with this....and wonder about it. it leads me to believe that this wasn't a one-off incident involving Cooper. Hasn't there been talk, or speculation, that there were consistent issues with her? Here's one difference between basketball and football--a basketball team is small; we're talking 10 student-athletes compared to 70 or more for football. Two players who don't like each other on a football team can stay clear of one another, generally; that is harder to do on a basketball team.

As for how Cooper is treated: nobody is saying throw the book at her--but you don't let her go to a rival, either. She screws up our team with her bad behavior--but we're supposed to happy that she ends up at a rival program? Sorry, no.
 
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Cooper was a very average player the only season she played for UT. Good riddance and hope she sucks at USC.

I can't wait for the season to begin. I think it's going to be an exciting and successful season.
 
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therickbol said:
You think the opposite opinion of his is "Holly can do no wrong" lol! His problem is the standard...if I don't like Holly then I am going to take EVERYTHING that happens, and look like an idiot, trying to stretch it into a negative against Holly. That's a good way to have a valid foundational opinion and manage to lose to the argument because you look desperate "reaching" for validation.
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I am simply making the observation that fans are very divided on their opinion of CHW. There are extremes on each side. I think it is past time for a change, but this coming year should be make or break.
 
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armchair said:
with this....and wonder about it. it leads me to believe that this wasn't a one-off incident involving Cooper. Hasn't there been talk, or speculation, that there were consistent issues with her? Here's one difference between basketball and football--a basketball team is small; we're talking 10 student-athletes compared to 70 or more for football. Two players who don't like each other on a football team can stay clear of one another, generally; that is harder to do on a basketball team.

As for how Cooper is treated: nobody is saying throw the book at her--but you don't let her go to a rival, either. She screws up our team with her bad behavior--but we're supposed to happy that she ends up at a rival program? Sorry, no.
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People don't usually get kicked out over one incident. Just saying...
 
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HoopDR said:
A la Josh Smith?
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Not sure if you are being snide or serious but let's work through the details and compare.

Josh Smith had an off campus fight, where the KPD responded and made an arrest; the victim suffered serious injuries; domestic assault charges were field against Smith and a civil suit was threatened; and Smith agreed to do 40 hours of community service and pay court fees in return for the assault charges being dismissed. And as of June 6, he was still with the team and training for his senior season.

So, the situation had much more legal complexity and seriousness than Cooper's altercation and yet, Smith did not have his scholarship rescinded. At face value, that seems like a double standard.
http://www.rockytopinsider.com/2017/06/06/report-case-vols-josh-smith-dismissed/

I would still assert that if two football players had an altercation in their dorm room, and barring serious injury to someone involved, that the "public" would never know about it and hence "disciplinary action" would not be a topic discussed on message boards.
 
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Also probably because the school values football and male basketball players more because those are generally revenue generating sports. Not saying that's right or ok, but they would have more incentive to forgive a star quarterback for their misdeeds than a female basketball player (or lacrosse, golf, tennis, swimming, etc...). Just my hunch.
 
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In the prior 34-page thread on this subject, it was stated by several reliable posters that this was not the first problem with Cooper's behavior.
 
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MandyLeanne92 said:
The players don't have to like each other to win games. There's been plenty of championship winning teams that didn't like each other. From what I've seen most of them do get along on this team.
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The coaches do!

The key to success in home, office and team is the same...Whatever the head of each "profession" does,,, the underling will do with more intensity and persistence.

Coaches don't necessarily have to love to be around each other, but when they are around each other they have to bring out the best in themselves and each other because they are setting an example for their players.



...told you there'd be more.

What the parents do in moderation, the child will do in excess.

In the business world if management fights between departments, the employees will fight as well.

Kyra.
Jollette.
Trainer (Ashley)....Next?
 
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volroadwarrior said:
Another "it's all Holly's fault" agenda "fan".
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I don't think Holly handled it properly, because player's always have issues with one another and still play together especially in college, but I've never seen where one transfer because of their issues.
 
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sisaq said:
I don't think Holly handled it properly, because player's always have issues with one another and still play together especially in college, but I've never seen where one transfer because of their issues.
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Once someone put a video of it on social media, nothing Holly can do about it.
 
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Coach Jumper said:
The coaches do!

The key to success in home, office and team is the same...Whatever the head of each "profession" does,,, the underling will do with more intensity and persistence.

Coaches don't necessarily have to love to be around each other, but when they are around each other they have to bring out the best in themselves and each other because they are setting an example for their players.



...told you there'd be more.

What the parents do in moderation, the child will do in excess.

In the business world if management fights between departments, the employees will fight as well.

Kyra.
Jollette.
Trainer (Ashley)....Next?
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For a man who professes a profound desire to be a member of the current Lady Vol coaching staff, you certainly do just about everything you can in your postings on this board to insure that you are not given any consideration for such a position, in my opinion.

I had not seen where the trainer, Ashley Wilson had left the staff, but you appear to be correct. I checked the Lady Vols website and her picture/bio is no longer listed, so it appears that your information is correct.

That said, your speculation that her departure is the result of the staff "not liking each other" is over the top, in my opinion! I might suggest that her departure is based on a choice she made to spend more time with her infant daughter. Not that I have any information to that effect. I might also suggest that she was let go because she was terrible at her job! Again, not that I have any personal knowledge to support such a conclusion (Except , of course, my own observations of in game behavior. Any time an opposing team's trainer makes it on to the court to check on an injured Lady Vol before our own trainer does, an event that I observed on several occasions during her tenure, or when our trainer has to be told by another member of the staff to go out to check on an injured player, (also observed several times) then something is very lacking in job performance in my opinion.). So speculation on my part would seem to be something I might want to keep to myself -- and I'm not even dreaming about employment with this staff!

Jim
 
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CannonVol80 said:
For a man who professes a profound desire to be a member of the current Lady Vol coaching staff, you certainly do just about everything you can in your postings on this board to insure that you are not given any consideration for such a position, in my opinion.

I had not seen where the trainer, Ashley Wilson had left the staff, but you appear to be correct. I checked the Lady Vols website and her picture/bio is no longer listed, so it appears that your information is correct.

That said, your speculation that her departure is the result of the staff "not liking each other" is over the top, in my opinion! I might suggest that her departure is based on a choice she made to spend more time with her infant daughter. Not that I have any information to that effect. I might also suggest that she was let go because she was terrible at her job! Again, not that I have any personal knowledge to support such a conclusion (Except , of course, my own observations of in game behavior. Any time an opposing team's trainer makes it on to the court to check on an injured Lady Vol before our own trainer does, an event that I observed on several occasions during her tenure, or when our trainer has to be told by another member of the staff to go out to check on an injured player, (also observed several times) then something is very lacking in job performance in my opinion.). So speculation on my part would seem to be something I might want to keep to myself -- and I'm not even dreaming about employment with this staff!

Jim
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What staff Jim?
 
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CannonVol80 said:
For a man who professes a profound desire to be a member of the current Lady Vol coaching staff, you certainly do just about everything you can in your postings on this board to insure that you are not given any consideration for such a position, in my opinion.

I had not seen where the trainer, Ashley Wilson had left the staff, but you appear to be correct. I checked the Lady Vols website and her picture/bio is no longer listed, so it appears that your information is correct.

That said, your speculation that her departure is the result of the staff "not liking each other" is over the top, in my opinion! I might suggest that her departure is based on a choice she made to spend more time with her infant daughter. Not that I have any information to that effect. I might also suggest that she was let go because she was terrible at her job! Again, not that I have any personal knowledge to support such a conclusion (Except , of course, my own observations of in game behavior. Any time an opposing team's trainer makes it on to the court to check on an injured Lady Vol before our own trainer does, an event that I observed on several occasions during her tenure, or when our trainer has to be told by another member of the staff to go out to check on an injured player, (also observed several times) then something is very lacking in job performance in my opinion.). So speculation on my part would seem to be something I might want to keep to myself -- and I'm not even dreaming about employment with this staff!

Jim
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Very well said.
 
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Of the current UConn coaching staff, only Chris Dailey has been there the entire time Geno has been the head coach. Marisa Moseley has been there 8 years and Shea Ralph has been there 9. I can't speak to other members of the staff, like trainers or strength coaches, because they apparently either don't have any (which I doubt) or they don't rate mention on the team website.

So, clearly they do have departures.

And, your response simply reinforces your negative position on this staff, which does nothing except strengthen the point of the first sentence in my earlier response, in my opinion.

Jim

P.S. It should be noted that this is in response to a portion of an earlier Coach Jumper post that has now had the reference edited out.

Jim
 
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Coach Jumper said:
What staff Jim?
People stay with a program like UT LV's for life.

Look at UCONN's.
Their assistant coaches could write their own ticket, yet they stay.

Why leave a program like that?
WE are a program like that.

At least, we are supposed to be.
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In her interview Jolette said she left because the opportunity arose and she wanted to be closer to home to be with family. Kyra was let go due to recruiting fiasco in 2016. UCONN people leave the ...coach for Cincinnati was a coach there because the opportunity arose. Elliot I think her name is. I know CD has been there (just like Holly would of been with pat). Im sure if there was a change at UCONN the coaches would go in other directions.
 
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Coach Jumper said:
Yes it was.
:thumbsup:

+++++++

I want my Lady Vols to be top tier.
Sick of waiting.
This is Lady Vol country.
My expectations are for players,, and coaches.
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Jolette Law was offered an opportunity she could not refuse. She was offered a coaching job in her home state a lot closer to her elderly mother, whom she worships. Her departure from the Lady Vols did not come easy and was very emotional for her. I know her personally and spoke with her this week.

Trainer Ashley Wilson is returning to her home state of Louisiana. FYI - Holly was not her boss. Trainers are employed independently. Ashley's departure is irrelevant.
 
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T_Vol376 said:
Jolette Law was offered an opportunity she could not refuse. She was offered a coaching job in her home state a lot closer to her elderly mother, whom she worships. Her departure from the Lady Vols did not come easy and was very emotional for her. I know her personally and spoke with her this week.

Trainer Ashley Wilson is returning to her home state of Louisiana. FYI - Holly was not her boss. Trainers are employed independently. Ashley's departure is irrelevant.
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Thanks for sharing. No conspiracy here folks. Time to move on.
 
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MandyLeanne92 said:
Once someone put a video of it on social media, nothing Holly can do about it.
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on social media should face disciplinarian measures herself. That is a huge no-no nowadays--big problem. In any case, some people are bad apples, and bad apples are very detrimental to teams.
 
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MandyLeanne92 said:
Once someone put a video of it on social media, nothing Holly can do about it.
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on social media should face disciplinarian measures herself. That is a huge no-no nowadays--big problem. In any case, some people are bad apples, and bad apples are very detrimental to teams.
 
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armchair said:
on social media should face disciplinarian measures herself. That is a huge no-no nowadays--big problem. In any case, some people are bad apples, and bad apples are very detrimental to teams.
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The person who recorded the video is a player on the team. She got herself in trouble with the whole scenario, and IMO should've been thrown off the team, too.

And no, I'm not saying who it was before anyone asks, although many people know.
 
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Taping a violent or immoral situation is an act of /seriously/ poor judgment, and putting it on social media is worse. I agree---I would seriously consider throwing the individual off the team. You do not do this--but young people today are stupid and misguided when it comes to their social media obsession. There should be serious disciplinarian action for whoever did it. Inexcusable.
 
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volman128 said:
The person who recorded the video is a player on the team. She got herself in trouble with the whole scenario, and IMO should've been thrown off the team, too.

And no, I'm not saying who it was before anyone asks, although many people know.
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I too thought that the player who taped the fight should have been booted as well. I had mentioned that in a previous post, and a poster named deerfart thought that suggesting a player get booted for taping a fight between two other teammates was the dumbest thing he/she had read on volnation. When a player videotapes two of their teammates fighting, you have to wonder what the maturity level of that player is. What are their motives? to me it shows a lack of respect for the other players and to the team as a whole. It also shows a lack of integrity, which ironically was one of coach summitt's most endearing qualities

Holly's teams have notoriously lacked in game discipline, lack of focus leading to turnovers, slacking off when they had big leads and letting teams back in games. It seems now the lack of discipline has crept into off the court life and causing instances like the one with cooper and nared.
 
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