Westbrook Gone

#976
#976
OldNSlow said:
I hope this changes but here is the harsh reality of where we are at.

Unless we schedule UCONN or Louisville or any top team in the regular season thats the only way we are gonna be able to play those teams.

To all that are saying UCONN is falling, then you are not following recruiting very close. Geno is Geno for a reason. He gets it. So does Walz. Walz just out maneuvered alot of major D1 schools and picked up three top level recruits, of which at least two will be ready to go next year. He had this done before we even barely figured out they were leaving. Thats just hard work on his part and UCONNs for signing great players. Something we are not yet doing. If we want to win, we have to play the game by todays rules not being stuck in the heyday and the way things were. See where thats got us.
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I wouldn’t call what Walz did as out maneuvering, knowing his history and how he operates and who he learned it from, I am 90 % certain contact with 2 of those players were made the moment their coach (Balogun and Dixon at GT) was suspended! We have scheduled UConn but I wouldn’t schedule Louisville for that reason alone! He has a history of recruiting outside the lines, but hey more power to him, he seems to get to final fours
 
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Nute Gunray said:
I doubt seriously that Evina will transfer to UCONN for 2 reasons, she wants to play PG and she wants to play the position her way.
None of this will be possible at UCONN because of Dangerfield, Williams and Geno. She will be disappointed sadly if she does transfer to UCONN. She will be better off if she changes her mind and stays with the Lady Vols.
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Westbrook will have to sit out while Dangerfield is a senior so that shouldn’t be an issue.
 
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mlindsay said:
I wouldn’t call what Walz did as out maneuvering, knowing his history and how he operates and who he learned it from, I am 90 % certain contact with 2 of those players were made the moment their coach (Balogun and Dixon at GT) was suspended! We have scheduled UConn but I wouldn’t schedule Louisville for that reason alone! He has a history of recruiting outside the lines, but hey more power to him, he seems to get to final fours
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Would you care to share your proof Coach Walz has broke the NCAA rules? Time to put up or shut up. I am not talking about opinions or he said she said either.

I think you are a ? . Do I know that? Get my point.
 
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OldNSlow said:
Have you read the new rules just passed this week? If not better look them up. She will play this year.
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You may want to actually read it more carefully...

If an incoming player has enrolled in summer school, and then that player’s head coach leaves the school before the start of the fall term, the player can transfer freely.

Most coaches aren’t moving around in the summer, with most sports out of season, but there are a few late surprises every year. And under this new rule, if, for instance, Ole Miss’ head football coach got ousted in July after phone records tied him to an escort service, then every incoming freshman would be allowed to go elsewhere and play.

The NCAA’s initial press release on the matter suggested that all players on the roster would get this privilege if the coach left in summer. It’s not clear why they shouldn’t, given that those players likely agreed to play for the same head coach an incoming freshman did.

So while it applies to all players her coach did not leave in the summer matter of fact she got fired before the end of the spring term.

I don’t think this automatically makes her eligible by the letter of the law. Now can she get an immediate waver yes but not by definition of that new rule the other rules refer to grad transfers and walk-ons to which she doesn’t qualify as either of those.
 
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#981
Westbrook may or may not have to sit out. The new rule does apply only to incoming freshmen enrolled for the summer term. However, TN had a coaching change, so the ncaa might let her play right away.
 
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#982
Read above I think it will apply to all players that are on the roster. However her coach was fired during the term and she didn’t enroll at her new school and that coach left.

I still think her situation will be different than the GTech girls (whose coach was let go for being verbally abusive and creating a toxic environment). Her coach was let go for poor performance was the reason given. Remember even when UConn got the KY transfer and Matt Mitchell was under the microscope she had to sit out with UConn (speaking of she hasn’t really seen the court I think it’s been injuries).
 
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#983
As inconsistent as some of these transfer situations have been ruled, she will probably not have to sit out a year. She could claim ' lack of player development' and get to an exception.

What is the deadline for players to declare transfer? Is it the end of May?
 
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#987
VA_VOLFAN said:
You may want to actually read it more carefully...

If an incoming player has enrolled in summer school, and then that player’s head coach leaves the school before the start of the fall term, the player can transfer freely.

Most coaches aren’t moving around in the summer, with most sports out of season, but there are a few late surprises every year. And under this new rule, if, for instance, Ole Miss’ head football coach got ousted in July after phone records tied him to an escort service, then every incoming freshman would be allowed to go elsewhere and play.

The NCAA’s initial press release on the matter suggested that all players on the roster would get this privilege if the coach left in summer. It’s not clear why they shouldn’t, given that those players likely agreed to play for the same head coach an incoming freshman did.

So while it applies to all players her coach did not leave in the summer matter of fact she got fired before the end of the spring term.

I don’t think this automatically makes her eligible by the letter of the law. Now can she get an immediate waver yes but not by definition of that new rule the other rules refer to grad transfers and walk-ons to which she doesn’t qualify as either of those.
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I have read them close. Promise. Been doing this a long time.
 
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#990
Geno will be adjusting his offense next year to match the skillset of his remaining players and recruits/transfers. Westbrook might be a good fit for that.

If he offers Westbrook it will be based on an understanding that he is the boss and what that means at UConn. And she (and her mother) will have to take it or leave it. Westbrook is older and wiser than she was when she signed at TN. She might have a better understanding now of what she wants and the best way to achieve it.

Years ago Geno had a recruit whose father had coacher her in high school or AAU. During a practice as Geno corrected what he saw as a weakness in her technique, the player responded “But that's the way my Dad taught me.” In his usual sarcastic manner, Geno pointed out that during games her father would be sitting up in the stands and she if she wanted to listen to his coaching she could sit up there with him. But if she wanted to be on the court with her teammates she had better listen only to him.
 
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OldNSlow said:
Lets get something out there. UCONN is not paying for a visit if they are not offering.
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UConn (and other top WCBB schools) bring players to campus all the time to see if they are a good fit and how they mesh with the current team before offering. If they aren't a good fit, why would they offer? Isn't that the point of having them visit, to see if it is a mutual match or not?
 
#993
#993
Darth_Vol said:
If UConn had her this season, they win the championship IMO. They could very well win it next year even if she doesn't transfer there, but if they did add EW I don't know who beats them...[/QUOTE
This year, yes, I agree. Next year, I’m not so sure. It’s not going to be easy to replace a Phee or Lou, more Phee though. I think Oregon is the team to beat next year. I will say this, next year will be a lot of fun. I think a lot of teams will be in the mix to win the NC.
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RandomWCBBFan said:
UConn (and other top WCBB schools) bring players to campus all the time to see if they are a good fit and how they mesh with the current team before offering. If they aren't a good fit, why would they offer? Isn't that the point of having them visit, to see if it is a mutual match or not?
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Not transfers......and not official visits.
 
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OldNSlow said:
Would you care to share your proof Coach Walz has broke the NCAA rules? Time to put up or shut up. I am not talking about opinions or he said she said either.

I think you are a ? . Do I know that? Get my point.
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I have a whole lot of proof having witnessed it first hand! The NCAA knows but it’s the women’s game so unfortunately they really don’t care.....He isn’t the only one that seems to be in on transfers before they announce their decisions to even transfer! Also I don’t get into the he say/she say and I stop giving my opinions on here a long time ago!
 
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Promise Taylor had to sit out when she transferred to Ms State even though her coach was fired. Jessica Shepherds coach was fired and she stayed another year before transferring and she didn’t have to sit. At NCAA discretion.
 
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mlindsay said:
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I have a whole lot of proof having witnessed it first hand! The NCAA knows but it’s the women’s game so unfortunately they really don’t care.....He isn’t the only one that seems to be in on transfers before they announce their decisions to even transfer! Also I don’t get into the he say/she say and I stop giving my opinions on here a long time ago!
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Lets hear it. Thats what I am always told. Thats a strong accusation and one that I am calling BS on. Unless you can really show some proof. BS. BS. BS.
 
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