What do the high caliber OOC games do for us?

[KBVol]

Unless your competing for national titles every year there is no reason to schedule tough OOC games! The Vols are in rebuild mold. The goal is to get back to bowl games. U can't do that by getting stomped by the Oregon's and Oklahoma's.

Vandy knows this to be true. One of Franklin's maxims....I can hear the team chanting in unison .... "We will only play non conference teams that have no business funding an athletic department much less a football team so that after getting blown out by the better SEC teams we can get to 6+ wins by beating these pathetic teams and the bottom feeders of the SEC."

 

[Freak]

Strong OOC opponents help us in the BCS. Duh.

 

[immyaxl]

Vandy knows this to be true. One of Franklin's maxims....I can hear the team chanting in unison .... "We will only play non conference teams that have no business funding an athletic department much less a football team so that after getting blown out by the better SEC teams we can get to 6+ wins by beating these pathetic teams and the bottom feeders of the SEC."

Obviously what he's doing is working. Before Franklin Vandy went to 4 bowl games in it's history. Since Franklins been there 3 straight! Tennessee's maxims should be changed to pretend it's still 98 and keep hiring Bama people to run our program.

 

[immyaxl]

Yea Ala had a brutal s SEC schedule..rolling eyes..One good OOC game should be the norm. No true fan wants to watch 4 hortible OOC games. Give me UT vs OR/Okl/Neb/USC once a year anyday.

Bama played every team in the west, Virginia Tech, UT and Kentucky. Honestly who in the east besides maybe Mizzou would have even been competitive with the Tide? If Auburn beats Mizzou they should be handed the national championship on the spot because they will have beaten the toughest competition!

 

[butchna]

Obviously what he's doing is working. Before Franklin Vandy went to 4 bowl games in it's history. Since Franklins been there 3 straight! Tennessee's maxims should be changed to pretend it's still 98 and keep hiring Bama people to run our program.

Again with the our? Why put that in there? You admittedly pull for Vandy....which is a plus for you since there are no pretensions...why the changeup? :blink:

 

[immyaxl]

Again with the our? Why put that in there? You admittedly pull for Vandy....which is a plus for you since there are no pretensions...why the changeup? :blink:

The Vols represent this great state just like Vandy, MTSU, Memphis and all the other schools. If the Vols stink it makes the whole state look bad. Vandy stunk it up for a long time and finally decided to take football seriously. I'm simply stating UT's problems start at the top. Things won't get fixed until there is change in that position.

 

[VolenteerSpirit]

You want to be the best, you have to beat the best.
Everytime we play a team that has had longer to grow as a team and get the most out of their talent, or a highly rated team like Oregon, then we also grow.
I want a team that can say we are the best because we beat the best.
The recruits come to UT to play against the best.
We may be down now, but we are on the rise.
Do you think these cupcake teams complain about playing D1 schools?
No, they use it to get money, and in recruiting.
Eventually they beat a team like FL. ... hahaha
The gaters paid a high school team to come into their home and whip em.
That HS team just grew, and their players believe in their coaches even more.
With cupcake games there is nothing to gain, and everything to loose.
I say play the hardest schedule every year, and we will be the hardest team to beat.
Did we give up when the Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor...

 

[immyaxl]

You want to be the best, you have to beat the best.
Everytime we play a team that has had longer to grow as a team and get the most out of their talent, or a highly rated team like Oregon, then we also grow.
I want a team that can say we are the best because we beat the best.
The recruits come to UT to play against the best.
We may be down now, but we are on the rise.
Do you think these cupcake teams complain about playing D1 schools?
No, they use it to get money, and in recruiting.
Eventually they beat a team like FL. ... hahaha
The gaters paid a high school team to come into their home and whip em.
That HS team just grew, and their players believe in their coaches even more.
With cupcake games there is nothing to gain, and everything to loose.
I say play the hardest schedule every year, and we will be the hardest team to beat.
Did we give up when the Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor...

The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. It helps to know who your fighting or in the Vols case playing. If your war or competition is against the rest of the SEC why attack or play a superior team from another conference?

 

[immyaxl]

If I were a recruit I would not want to go to a school that plays an OVC out of conference schedule.

The best example of this is Alabama. They have really improved their program since improving their OOC schedule. If you want to be the best you have to play the best.

An even better examples are Miami and FSU. Those programs were faceless in the mid-70's Both Schnellenbergar and Bowden scheduled the best teams in the country to build a reputation of playing anybody anywhere. Both teams started recruiting players that wanted to be winners and became two of the top teams in the country.

If you want to kill recruiting talk about your great games against UAB, South Alabama, Buffalo, etc. The real players like the big stage.

Miami's case is different from FSU's. Miami was independent and could schedule anyone they wanted. Every team wasn't on tv every week in the 80's either. They didn't answer to a conference. They also didn't have to leave the state to recruit. Miami had a perfect situation. FSU was a independent until the 90's when they joined the ACC and started competing for national titles.

 

[AllVolinGA]

I had rather see the vols play these tougher teams than the directional schools. JMO.

 

[butchna]

The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor!!!. :mf_surrender: It helps to know who your fighting or in the Vols case playing. If your war or competition is against the rest of the SEC why attack or play a superior team from another conference?

Not big on 80s movies huh? :yu:

:acute: :acute:

 

[sport3500]

Recruiting exposure and a nice payday for the athletic department when UT plays on the road in an OOC game.

 

[Vol_Maul]

I understand that Tennessee was able to cancel our series with UNC.

Don't pretend these things are carved in stone.

Vanderbilt cancels games by ****ing USPS. It can be changed very easily.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

not big on 80s movies huh? :yu:

:acute: :acute:

1978

 

[Volhoops]

People lets not like Bama and some of the other top SEC teams. It is good to play good teams in the non-SEC schedule. Other than Texas AM and Missouri we are the only team to schedule tough competition west of the Mississippi.

 

[Cartervol]

Scheduling these games isn't doing anything for Tennessee right now. When the program was stronger they were great. Playing games when you're beat before you ever take the field, i don't see any positives there.

 

[VolenteerSpirit]

The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. It helps to know who your fighting or in the Vols case playing. If your war or competition is against the rest of the SEC why attack or play a superior team from another conference?

Ummm .. Come on man...
Really, your going to be that guy.
I am going to stand by my statement.
If you want to become the best, you have to play the best.
These young men come to play against the toughest competition in the country.
Tennessee has always picked up the gauntlet.
Remember the Alamo, University of Tennessee Grads Volunteered to make a stand and gave their all there. We never not get up for a fight.
If we will not make a stand, then we might as well not be VOLs.
The only thing I would concede would be don't schedule against teams that have monster defense that will injure players.
Oregon is the perfect opponent.
We had nothing to lose in that game, and everything to gain.
Even loosing that game gave our defense some needed experience.

 

[butchna]

1978

I saw it in the 80s
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[pharmDvol11]

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Truth. UT's in debt...




We're the SEC version of Austin Peay.

 

[GoVols876]

The past 10 years, Tennessee is 2-7 in these big games with an astonishing 28% winning percentage.

These games have also kept us from going to a bowl game 3 of those 10 years (2005, 2008, 2013). It's also very likely that it will happen again in 2014.

You can't tell me the recruiting benefits from these games outweigh the consistent negative impact to morale, fanbase buy in, ticket sales, revenues etc.

These games have to stop until we are back on our feet.

 

[governmentmule]

Ohio State doesn't need a tough OOC schedule, nor does Auburn or Mizzou.

As the playoffs start picking an additional 2 teams next year, the need for these games becomes even more unnecessary.

As cool as these games are, they are only holding our program back.

I'm not so sure about that,I assume they will most likely be teams with 1 game lost ,so the strength of schedule should matter more,to me the SOS should count more that it does now

besides I would rather not watch em play a bunch of cupcakes

 

[GoVols876]

I'm not so sure about that,I assume they will most likely be teams with 1 game lost ,so the strength of schedule should matter more,to me the SOS should count more that it does now

besides I would rather not watch em play a bunch of cupcakes

Would you rather watch a cupcake game in September in exchange for a bowl game? Because that's our choice right now.

 

[Ccbasin]

The past 10 years, Tennessee is 2-7 in these big games with an astonishing 28% winning percentage.

These games have also kept us from going to a bowl game 3 of those 10 years (2005, 2008, 2013). It's also very likely that it will happen again in 2014.

You can't tell me the recruiting benefits from these games outweigh the consistent negative impact to morale, fanbase buy in, ticket sales, revenues etc.

These games have to stop until we are back on our feet.

So, going to the BBVA Compass Bowl, Music City Bowl, or Liberty Bowl would show how kick ass Tennessee is??

I get more psyched playing BCS clubs than these smaller schools. I prefer to see it continue.

Just in case you didn't notice, I saw a lot of empty seats in stadiums around the SEC when they were playing these smaller schools. That doesn't effect revenue especially when you add in how you have to pay them??

I think it does.

Plus, if all you want is wins, then leave the SEC. I am sure the AAC or Conference USA would love to have us. We could dominate there!

 

[Boca Vol]

So, going to the BBVA Compass Bowl, Music City Bowl, or Liberty Bowl would show how kick ass Tennessee is??

I get more psyched playing BCS clubs than these smaller schools. I prefer to see it continue.

Just in case you didn't notice, I saw a lot of empty seats in stadiums around the SEC when they were playing these smaller schools. That doesn't effect revenue especially when you add in how you have to pay them??

I think it does.

Plus, if all you want is wins, then leave the SEC. I am sure the AAC or Conference USA would love to have us. We could dominate there!

30 seconds after those lower tiered bowls end no one remembers who played in them. The Beef O'Brady's Bowl is played 40 minutes from my house and I have no idea who played in it last year or who is playing in it this year.

I agree with you. I would rather play a high profile regular season game.

 

[Tarkus]

So, going to the BBVA Compass Bowl, Music City Bowl, or Liberty Bowl would show how kick ass Tennessee is??

I get more psyched playing BCS clubs than these smaller schools. I prefer to see it continue.

Just in case you didn't notice, I saw a lot of empty seats in stadiums around the SEC when they were playing these smaller schools. That doesn't effect revenue especially when you add in how you have to pay them??

I think it does.

Plus, if all you want is wins, then leave the SEC. I am sure the AAC or Conference USA would love to have us. We could dominate there!

You act like it has to be an either or on scheduling. There are a lot of teams between Oregon or Oklahoma and Austin Peay. No one thinks we have to schedule a cupcake if we don't schedule a top ten team. Instead of Oklahoma, what's wrong with Virginia or Rutgers or Texas Tech. They're not cupcakes but, while we're down, we have a reasonable chance of winning the game. As far as bowl games, living in west Tennessee, I'd love to see UT in the Liberty bowl this year instead of sitting at home.