What do the high caliber OOC games do for us?

#76
#76
Tarkus said:
You act like it has to be an either or on scheduling. There are a lot of teams between Oregon or Oklahoma and Austin Peay. No one thinks we have to schedule a cupcake if we don't schedule a top ten team. Instead of Oklahoma, what's wrong with Virginia or Rutgers or Texas Tech. They're not cupcakes but, while we're down, we have a reasonable chance of winning the game. As far as bowl games, living in west Tennessee, I'd love to see UT in the Liberty bowl this year instead of sitting at home.
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Had they been able to stop UGA or managed to get 1 yard against Vandy you probably would have gotten to see UT in the Liberty Bowl. It was there for the taking. Scheduling Oregon had nothing to do with either of those games.
 
#77
#77
Boca Vol said:
Had they been able to stop UGA or managed to get 1 yard against Vandy you probably would have gotten to see UT in the Liberty Bowl. It was there for the taking. Scheduling Oregon had nothing to do with either of those games.
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Probably would've been easier to beat TnTech than to get that stop or yard. You gonna be happy with 5-7 again next year including a loss to OK or would you rather the program get some positive momentum? #NOMORESCARSDAMMIT
 
#78
#78
Boca Vol said:
Had they been able to stop UGA or managed to get 1 yard against Vandy you probably would have gotten to see UT in the Liberty Bowl. It was there for the taking. Scheduling Oregon had nothing to do with either of those games.
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Those were conference games, the discussion was on non-conference opponents.
 
#79
#79
VolunteerHillbilly said:
Probably would've been easier to beat TnTech than to get that stop or yard. You gonna be happy with 5-7 again next year including a loss to OK or would you rather the program get some positive momentum? #NOMORESCARSDAMMIT
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Does beating the Austin Peay's of the world really give you momentum? Or is it masking where you are as a program? Posters on here are making fun of Vandy's OOC games but at the same time suggesting UT do the same.

Tarkus said:
Those were conference games, the discussion was on non-conference opponents.
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You were the one that brought up the bowl game vs. sitting at home. I simply pointed out a bowl game was in reach even with Oregon on the schedule.
 
#80
#80
Ccbasin said:
So, going to the BBVA Compass Bowl, Music City Bowl, or Liberty Bowl would show how kick ass Tennessee is??

I get more psyched playing BCS clubs than these smaller schools. I prefer to see it continue.

Just in case you didn't notice, I saw a lot of empty seats in stadiums around the SEC when they were playing these smaller schools. That doesn't effect revenue especially when you add in how you have to pay them??

I think it does.

Plus, if all you want is wins, then leave the SEC. I am sure the AAC or Conference USA would love to have us. We could dominate there!
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So, in your mind missing bowl games 3 of the past 10 years is worth it to go 2-7 against the high caliber opponents? O yeah, missing out on valuable bowl practice time too.

Why? These games have only made or rebound harder.
 
#81
#81
Tough OOC as well as playing in the SEC , reminds everyone , that once we where the Mighty Big Orange from Tennessee . We will eventually be back to winning these games . Sooner rather than later . I hope anyway .
 
#82
#82
GoVols876 said:
So, in your mind missing bowl games 3 of the past 10 years is worth it to go 2-7 against the high caliber opponents? O yeah, missing out on valuable bowl practice time too.

Why? These games have only made or rebound harder.
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It's actually 5 of the last 10 seasons that UT hasn't been to a bowl game.

Regading this "valuable" bowl practice, I think that's a bit overplayed. In these lower tiered bowl games, the team isn't giving the same effort as the BCS title game.
 
#83
#83
VolunteerHillbilly said:
Probably would've been easier to beat TnTech than to get that stop or yard. You gonna be happy with 5-7 again next year including a loss to OK or would you rather the program get some positive momentum? #NOMORESCARSDAMMIT
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So, you would be happy if Tennessee had beaten a Tennessee Tech, gone 6-6, and played in the Compass Bowl??

That's positive momentum??

That's the Dan Mullen program to a tee.

Positive momentum is beating the good teams, in conference and out of it.
 
#84
#84
Boca Vol said:
It's actually 5 of the last 10 seasons that UT hasn't been to a bowl game.

Regading this "valuable" bowl practice, I think that's a bit overplayed. In these lower tiered bowl games, the team isn't giving the same effort as the BCS title game.
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Good to see a Vol fan in Sarasota. I am in Bradenton.
 
#85
#85
GoVols876 said:
So, in your mind missing bowl games 3 of the past 10 years is worth it to go 2-7 against the high caliber opponents? O yeah, missing out on valuable bowl practice time too.

Why? These games have only made or rebound harder.
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A bad AD and bad coaches are worse than the schedule.

Yes, I do care about the quality of opponent. Do you think a win against Western Kentucky is a good thing?? Does that make you feel good about the program you love??

At some point, you have to take on good teams. Do recruits respect a team that plays Tennessee tech or do they like the possibility of taking on a BCS heavyweight??

Ask that question.
 
#86
#86
I think the better OOC team we play will give our team more valuable reps which can help us towards winning more IC games. Unless, in the process of OOC beat downs, our team starts believing they are terrible, have a coach that can't teach/coach, or rack up injuries.
We need quality reps more so than easy Wins. JMO
 
#87
#87
Look at the top BCS teams from this year, only 3 teams had schedules ranked in the top 63 most difficult schedules in the country. Playing difficult OOC games doesn't do anything but hurt you when you are rebuilding, like UT is right now.
 
#89
#89
1985Vols said:
Look at the top BCS teams from this year, only 3 teams had schedules ranked in the top 63 most difficult schedules in the country. Playing difficult OOC games doesn't do anything but hurt you when you are rebuilding, like UT is right now.
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You make a good point about the SOS but this year's schedule didn't keep the Vols out of a bowl game.

The SEC schedule is what it is. No one saw Auburn or Mizzou doing what they did, but they did. Most people saw Auburn on the schedule and felt pretty good about it given last season.

Other than Ark, who from the West would you have like to have seen on the schedule? Miss St? Ole Miss? They're about the same as Vandy and UT couldn't beat Vandy with the season on the line.

Outside of the BCS, which UT wasn't a part of the SOS really doesn't mean much. The Liberty Bowl didn't choose their team based on the SOS.
 
#90
#90
vtvol98 said:
What do the high profile game OOC games help get us? 63rd in the current BCS rankings.
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Which sounds awful until you realize there are several teams with better records below us because they played a crappy schedule in a weak conference.
 
#91
#91
GoVols876 said:
Would you rather watch a cupcake game in September in exchange for a bowl game? Because that's our choice right now.
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no,i don't want to watch a cupcake game,i know it is tough not to get some easy wins and go to a bowl game,but in the long run,it will be better for the players to play against good competition,instead of a glorified practice
 
#92
#92
In my opinion, people blow this way out of proportion. We had four OOC games, which is conveniently forgotten. Three of those were god-awful opponents. So those arguing that we should have dropped Oregon are actually saying we should have played four pathetic teams instead of just three.

I don't think it's too much to ask for a team that expects to compete at the highest levels to play a quality opponent one out of four games.
 
#93
#93
Boca Vol said:
You make a good point about the SOS but this year's schedule didn't keep the Vols out of a bowl game.

The SEC schedule is what it is. No one saw Auburn or Mizzou doing what they did, but they did. Most people saw Auburn on the schedule and felt pretty good about it given last season.

Other than Ark, who from the West would you have like to have seen on the schedule? Miss St? Ole Miss? They're about the same as Vandy and UT couldn't beat Vandy with the season on the line.

Outside of the BCS, which UT wasn't a part of the SOS really doesn't mean much. The Liberty Bowl didn't choose their team based on the SOS.
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I disagree. Trade Oregon for UMass and UT is bowling this year.
 
#94
#94
volgrad500 said:
In my opinion, people blow this way out of proportion. We had four OOC games, which is conveniently forgotten. Three of those were god-awful opponents. So those arguing that we should have dropped Oregon are actually saying we should have played four pathetic teams instead of just three.

I don't think it's too much to ask for a team that expects to compete at the highest levels to play a quality opponent one out of four games.
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Most of the Top 25 BCS teams would disagree. Just check out their OOC schedules.
 
#95
#95
1985Vols said:
Most of the Top 25 BCS teams would disagree. Just check out their OOC schedules.
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Well, I just looked at the top 5. I think it's fair to count any opponent from a Big 5 conference as quality, because the schedules are made far enough in advance that's all you can do really (it's not like Oregon should be punished because we are down now- they selected a normally tough team)

Top 5 OOC
FSU Florida
Auburn Washington St.
ALabama Virginia Tech
MSU Didn't play anyone. S.FL is best (only won 21-6)
Stanford Notre Dame

I think the upside to playing 1 tough OOC is that it can create a ton of early season buzz that can help with polls and team morale. I like that we are willing to play legit teams.
 
#97
#97
Now I'm just curious haha. Here are the best OOC games for those in our division.

Missouri Nobody worth a damn. Played Indiana. I think realignment may be affecting their schedule, because they didn't play an SEC game until Oct. 5th!
USC Both North Carolina and Clemson.
UGA Clemson

Vandy Lol Wake Forest
FL FSU
UT Oregon
Kentucky No big 5, but played #7 Louisville.

So pretty much everyone in our division except Vandy and Mizzou played a top 10 OOC game. The question is, do you want us to be scheduling like the Floridas and the Georgias, or more like the Vandys?
 
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#98
#98
UT is probably contracted into a big OOC game for the next several years. What they can control is the other 3 games... and they need to. It is a long season and while it may seem somehow wrong... you need some cupcakes to a) work on your stuff and b) to develop your depth.

UT needs to get over the ego trip and schedule an FCS school each year... and two wouldn't hurt for the next 2 or 3 years. Then they need to schedule a middling Sun Belt or MWC team.
 
#99
#99
Our scheduling as a whole is total garbage. We play UF to early and need to move either UK or vandy toward the front.

And we should have bought out the Oregon series, we had no business playing those games. People won't remember buying out a game when we sucked. They will remember a losing season and not going to a bowl. We have to establish a winning mentality again, then go toe to toe with top 10 teams.
 
#100
#100
Boca Vol said:
And would that truly make you feel better about 2013? They still lost to UF, Bama, UGA, Mizzou, Auburn, AND VANDY!
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Yes, it would. This team has to learn to win again. Get the extra practices, gain some confidence, and enjoy the perks of going bowling. We had no business playing Oregon.
 
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