What if Loughner were a Muslim?

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let's just say i don't think obama would be calling for a change in the rhetoric.
 
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this is BS. if laughner was a muslim, the news organizations would have begged for calm and would have danced around the issue all week. just look at the fort hood killer.

they would have demanded we don't judge the whole religion and then would have jumped on anyone saying anything negative
 
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joevol320 said:
this is BS. if laughner was a muslim, the news organizations would have begged for calm and would have danced around the issue all week. just look at the fort hood killer.

they would have demanded we don't judge the whole religion and then would have jumped on anyone saying anything negative
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What's your point? That arguing that he was to some degree enabled by the harshness of the far right is comparable to if he were motivated by religious fervor?

And that people would therefore call for more civility and a more responsible tone?

I mean, Ok. What's wrong with that?
 
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lawgator1 said:
What's your point? That arguing that he was to some degree enabled by the harshness of the far right is comparable to if he were motivated by religious fervor?

And that people would therefore call for more civility and a more responsible tone?

I mean, Ok. What's wrong with that?
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what are you talking about?

what i'm saying is that the media would be demanding and preaching that American not make any assumption. Unlike the accusations they've made this past week against conservatives.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That arguing that he was to some degree enabled by the harshness of the far right is comparable to if he were motivated by religious fervor?
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you keep singing that same tune, when are you going to understand that it's based on lies and hypocrisy?

that's a rhetorical question, btw. I know you'll never abandon your belief that Sarah Palin and Glen Beck told Loughner to assassinate Giffords.
 
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joevol320 said:
what are you talking about?

what i'm saying is that the media would be demanding and preaching that American not make any assumption. Unlike the accusations they've made this past week against conservatives.
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They'd be saying that Islamic terrorism is good? You are not making any sense.



MG1968 said:
you keep singing that same tune, when are you going to understand that it's based on lies and hypocrisy?

that's a rhetorical question, btw. I know you'll never abandon your belief that Sarah Palin and Glen Beck told Loughner to assassinate Giffords.
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When did I say this?
 
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no one would dare imply liberals cause islamic terrorism even though teh fort hood shooters opinions aligned themselves very closely to liberal pundits.
 
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lawgator1 said:
What's your point? That arguing that he was to some degree enabled by the harshness of the far right is comparable to if he were motivated by religious fervor?

And that people would therefore call for more civility and a more responsible tone?

I mean, Ok. What's wrong with that?
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1. Political discourse had absolutely nothing to with this.
2. "More civility" was not called for during the Bush years and the hypocrisy of the left for this is simply astounding.
3. The only ones in your eyes who need "more civility" is the right yet it's been shown time after time that it is actually the left that is guilty of the really disgusting language.
4. "A more responsible tone" ... that's rich coming from you.
5. While the rest of the lefties in this country have been shamed and stopped blaming the right, you have just shown you have no shame.

You are ridiculous.
 
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lawgator1 said:
They'd be saying that Islamic terrorism is good? You are not making any sense.






When did I say this?
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no.

what i'm saying is they would not have made the accusations and assumptions if he was a muslim as they did with conservatives.
 
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i wonder if those saying the poltiical rhetoric is worse tahn ever actually remember the 60s.
 
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joevol320 said:
no.

what i'm saying is they would not have made the accusations and assumptions if he was a muslim as they did with conservatives.
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they'd be falling over themselves to talk about how most muslims don't feel this way. instead they are making up connections to the tea party and implying beck and palin want violence.
 
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Basically, vitriol is vitriol. Regardless of the source. An erratic and violent nature, rather it be culturally ingrained or due to a susceptibility of influence as a result of a mental insability do not, in my opinion, reflect what was used as a conduit for the extremist thoughts.

Islam, Christianity, Left-Wing, Right-Wing, video games, etc are not the causes of shootings. It's kids who either didn't get the right attention growing up or they got too much of the wrong attention. Making a scape-goat out of any of this is further hampering the continual advancement of the human condition.

Just my rant. Continue on with your cloistered "us against them" debate.
 
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did anyone read the article? what a bunch of whiny BS. way to take a tragedy, make yourself the victim and then say you don't want to divide the country further.

interesting that he speaks for white people as one big homogenous group while making a point that minorities are stereotyped.

finally, I'm relieved that the dude wasn't acting as a Republican or conservative but whether I'm relieved is 100% irrelevant to the real suffering that occurred here.

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people should take this for what it was

Editor's note: Dean Obeidallah is an award-winning Arab-American comedian who has appeared on various TV shows including Comedy Central's "Axis of Evil" special, ABC's "The View," CNN's "What the Week" and "The Joy Behar Show." He serves as the executive producer of the annual New York Arab-American Comedy Festival and The Amman Stand Up Comedy Festival.
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volinbham said:
I think he was being serious - if found the whole thing distasteful.
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I think he was also being completely serious, but I didn't find it distasteful.

Perhaps it should have been held by the editor for another week or 2... but it had to be published while the events were still relevant. So is the result of our ADD short-term news society.

I think it's an honest (but probably hard to digest) question to ask and I don't feel he was stereotyping all whites in the country. Only white serial killers which are usually lumped into several categories having to do with their mental, not cultural or religious, state.
 
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volinbham said:
I think he was being serious - if found the whole thing distasteful.
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I'm honestly shocked you and others found it so. I thought it was an interesting point about how we in general tend to draw conclusions about groups from isolated incidences. It's completely applicable to this whole "conservatives are to blame" BS.
 
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If he was muslim he would have disintegrated when the bomb went off and would be in the company of 70 virgins.

Instead he's sharing a cell with Thunderd***.
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If he was a Muslim he would have killed twice as many people, and the media would have been making excuses for him. The left-wing Jew controlled media is always portraying Muslims in a positive light and trying to oppress the white man. Similarly, Obama would be giving speeches in favor of him because he is a Muslim who hates whites.
 
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