What if the reverse happens?

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I used to think that but I am starting to run into a much larger group of people who actually hope rioters come down to the southern suburbs so they can deal with them and they aren't just taking. Some are ex and current military.

I don't think you'd see a conservative uprising, but you might very well see conservatives decide to fight back, and at that point my money is not on the left's fire starters.
 
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Uh huh, and you are trying to imply they were the pro Trump demonstrators while the article said:



Those are solid dem areas, so the bulk of the arrests were far more likely to have been counter demonstrators rather than the Trump supporters.
You're reaching
 
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Let's just be honest. Conservatives don't riot and burn buildings down because most conservatives are middle aged or older and have jobs and families and bills to pay. To many people count on them and they can't risk going to jail.

But what if?

What if the states continue to stay closed, and they begin losing their jobs and can't make their Bills and millions across the country start losing their homes and can't feed their families and they finally have enough?

Most hunters are conservative.

Most gun owners are conservative.

Do you know a single conservative who doesnt own atleast one gun and in most cases multiple guns?

What happens when the group that has been quiet and peaceful finally decides to act the same way as the liberals who are burning cities down and looting.

I personally hope this never happens but we are definitely on a crash course at some point for this if things don't begin to change in this country and both sides begin to find middle ground.

So what are your thoughts?

What would finally be the death knell to cause this and where would it start and how?

Total speculation but things are getting very toxic in this country.

They'll not destroy or riot anything crazy, they'll protest some but most still work. They'll open businesses and defy the law.

They will get support from patrons. It think it would take something really bad to get the conservatives to rise to point they protest with loaded guns and expect violence.
 
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I can't see how anything too serious would start unless it was like the ACW and a group of states actually tried to secede. It isn't going to happen organically--I mean, what would regular people even be able to do? If the state government doesn't support them, then any scatterings of uprisings are put down as local crime. If a group tries to overthrow their state government, again, police will try to prevent it. If police don't act, the National Guard steps in. Without support from the state government, they have no legitimacy. If the state government DOES support them, what do the people do? Go invade other states? Like, what are the logistics of the start of an uprising/civil war? Do you just go shoot your liberal neighbors?

Maybe you could talk to him first, try to change his mind then shoot him, maybe wound him in the foot? Not sure
 
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I've been saying that if conservatives wait until their jobs are affected, then they have waited too late to respond. Right now, myself included, we are too comfortable right now. We don't want to risk losing our creature comforts.

conservatives aren't getting paid millions to protest. I guees if they did, it could be different but conservatives are tend to be adults and responsible.
 
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They didn’t turn out in enough numbers to keep Biden out of the WH so I can’t see enough turning out to make a stink.

Ah but they did turn out. Trump got 5 million more votes than Obama did in 2008 when (nearly) bipartisan throngs poured out to vote for him and expiate historic white guilt over slavery. One of the most historic landslide elections on record. And yet, Biden, who spent the entire campaign hiding in his basement, supposedly got almost 12 million more than Obama? really? And unlike Biden's "voters" who ahem, "mailed it in", most Trumpers showed up at the actual polls, in spite of COVID, etc.

While social media mavens do indeed work hard to keep the white working and middle class fat, dumb and distracted, how long is it before a state actually has a referendum for succession? when the elected state legislators say they are no longer willing to follow federal dictats? and kick feds out. And before you laugh, Portland basically did just that but from the left.

Conservatives are unlikely to start shooting people in their own state but the idea of 2 or 3 states declaring autonomous zones is not far fetched and if Federal officers/military are sent in to restore "order", good luck with that with an armed to the teeth red state population defending its own capital, legislators, etc. That is where I see this going.
 
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TIME magazine disagrees:

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