What irritates you the most at restaurants?

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Behr said:
Obviously its up to you. I've rarley seen or known anyone to tip on the pre tax amount.

But, my system was set up on Auto gratuity to add 18% to the pre tax amount.

Servers tip out anywhere from 2-3.5 % of their NET sales for tip pools for bartenders, bussers and in some places expeditors and or hostesses. So tipping them on the GROSS total helps them...a little.

Servers and bartenders are required to pay taxes on their NET sales.

My employees were allowed to use auto grat (18%) only on parties of 8 or more. I was blessed with servers and bartenders that seldom used it and usually came out better off.

That what you were looking for?
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Yep. Because of tip-out, a server will actually lose money out of their own pocket if you stiff them.

Tip on the whole bill. Most auto-gratuity is on the pre-tax amount.
 
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Charlie Kelly said:
Yep. Because of tip-out, a server will actually lose money out of their own pocket if you stiff them.
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Was gonna mention that earlier, but figured if they dont give a chit about tipping them, it probably makes them feel better knowing they lost money.
 
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Behr said:
Obviously its up to you. I've rarley seen or known anyone to tip on the pre tax amount.

But, my system was set up on Auto gratuity to add 18% to the pre tax amount.

Servers tip out anywhere from 2-3.5 % of their NET sales for tip pools for bartenders, bussers and in some places expeditors and or hostesses. So tipping them on the GROSS total helps them...a little.

Servers and bartenders are required to pay taxes on their NET sales.

My employees were allowed to use auto grat (18%) only on parties of 8 or more. I was blessed with servers and bartenders that seldom used it and usually came out better off.

That what you were looking for?
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Charlie Kelly said:
Yep. Because of tip-out, a server will actually lose money out of their own pocket if you stiff them.

Tip on the whole bill. Most auto-gratuity is on the pre-tax amount.
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Thanks for the answers. I guess what made me think of this is tonight I took some cousins to a restaurant and at the bottom was the suggested tip amounts in % and $. They had 15, 18, and 20% which is pretty standard but it was based on the total amount not the net. I know the difference between the 2 is about 7% in FL so it's not a huge amount but I can how tipping on the total can help the servers with the tip outs.

It's been since the early 90's that I've waited tables. I couldn't remember the "rules".
 
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Behr said:
Was gonna mention that earlier, but figured if they dont give a chit about tipping them, it probably makes them feel better knowing they lost money.
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I don’t think the servers really realize there’s other jobs
 
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508mikey said:
use your frequent flyer miles for my airfare down there
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I figure you can drive me around in your car with your gas take me to dinner and maybe a cubs. game. Maybe I can stay at your house and sleep on your couch eat all your food and leave early before you get up
 
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Biopsyman said:
I figure you can drive me around in your car with your gas take me to dinner and maybe a cubs. game. Maybe I can stay at your house and sleep on your couch eat all your food and leave early before you get up
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I dont even live in Chicago
 
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Biopsyman said:
I don’t think the servers really realize there’s other jobs
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Yea, I don't think you have any idea what they realize.

A large number, in my experience, get used to making 100+ CASH in a 5-7 hour night and its hard to give it up.

Restaurant business can be an addiction.
 
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Behr said:
Yea, I don't think you have any idea what they realize.

A large number, in my experience, get used to making 100+ CASH in a 5-7 hour night and its hard to give it up.

Restaurant business can be an addiction.
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Exactly.. bad service and get paid. You made my point .
 
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Behr said:
Obviously its up to you. I've rarley seen or known anyone to tip on the pre tax amount.

But, my system was set up on Auto gratuity to add 18% to the pre tax amount.

Servers tip out anywhere from 2-3.5 % of their NET sales for tip pools for bartenders, bussers and in some places expeditors and or hostesses. So tipping them on the GROSS total helps them...a little.

Servers and bartenders are required to pay taxes on their NET sales.

My employees were allowed to use auto grat (18%) only on parties of 8 or more. I was blessed with servers and bartenders that seldom used it and usually came out better off.

That what you were looking for?
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Well, this is interesting. I've always understood the tipping etiquette to be 15-20% on the pretax amount. I looked online and was reaffirmed by an older article. So, when did the shift occur?

And do most restaurants pool tips at the end of the shift or does the individual server actually get the amount tipped directly to their service? I know in the casino business, tips are pooled so you tipping your dealer doesn't really mean s/he got all those tips you gave them.
 
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95 Vol Alum said:
Well, this is interesting. I've always understood the tipping etiquette to be 15-20% on the pretax amount. I looked online and was reaffirmed by an older article. So, when did the shift occur?

And do most restaurants pool tips at the end of the shift or does the individual server actually get the amount tipped directly to their service? I know in the casino business, tips are pooled so you tipping your dealer doesn't really mean s/he got all those tips you gave them.
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Large tips has become expected vs earned
 
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DrRosenRosen said:
Hey Joe -

Just for the record, there's a bar here in Knoxville called Token. They have cereal on the menu. Kid you not, the choices are Cinnamon Toast Crunch, Frosted Flakes, Reese's Puffs, and Trix.

Unfortunately, no Cap'n Crunch. There should be some Opps All Berries on there.
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That's awesome! I can eat all of those!
 
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95 Vol Alum said:
Well, this is interesting. I've always understood the tipping etiquette to be 15-20% on the pretax amount. I looked online and was reaffirmed by an older article. So, when did the shift occur?

And do most restaurants pool tips at the end of the shift or does the individual server actually get the amount tipped directly to their service? I know in the casino business, tips are pooled so you tipping your dealer doesn't really mean s/he got all those tips you gave them.
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In all my years in Tennessee and Florida, I've never heard that, with the exception of on occasion.

Servers give their tip out to the manager and they are pooled and divided.
 
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